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Soda: A Sin We Sip Instead of Smoke? (are Coke & Pepsi the new tobacco?)
The New York Times ^ | Feb 16, 2010 | Mark Bittman

Posted on 03/17/2010 12:32:18 PM PDT by presidio9

Is soda the new tobacco?

In their critics’ eyes, producers of sugar-sweetened drinks are acting a lot like the tobacco industry of old: marketing heavily to children, claiming their products are healthy or at worst benign, and lobbying to prevent change. The industry says there are critical differences: in moderate quantities soda isn’t harmful, nor is it addictive.

The problem is that at roughly 50 gallons per person per year, our consumption of soda, not to mention other sugar-sweetened beverages, is far from moderate, and appears to be an important factor in the rise in childhood obesity. This increase is at least partly responsible for a rise in what can no longer be called “adult onset” diabetes — because more and more children are now developing it.

Attention is being paid: Last week, the Obama administration announced a plan to ban candy and sweetened beverages from schools. A campaign against childhood obesity will be led by the first lady, Michelle Obama. And a growing number of public health advocates are pushing for even more aggressive actions, urging that soda be treated like tobacco: with taxes, warning labels and a massive public health marketing campaign, all to discourage consumption.

A tax on soda was one option considered to help pay for health care reform (the Joint Committee on Taxation calculated that a 3-cent tax on each 12-ounce sugared soda would raise $51.6 billion over a decade), and President Obama told Men’s Health magazine last fall that such a tax is “an idea that we should be exploring. There’s no doubt that our kids drink way too much soda.”

But with all the junk food and U.F.O.’s (unidentifiable food-like objects) out there, why soda? Why a tax? And, most important, would it work?

To the beverage industry,

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: coke; foodpolice; liberalfascism; nanny; nannystate; pepsi; pufflist
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I quit drinking five years ago. I wasn't an alcoholic, I had other health issues that made drinking a bad idea. After five years of sobriety, I usually don't even notice that I don't drink anymore, but I am reminded on March 17th in NYC. I don't drink coffee. I don't drink tea. When I occasionally do, I put two packets of sugar in both. I do drink 5-6 cans of Pepsicola every day. I am exactly at the optimum weight and body fat for an adult male in his thirties. I have my blood checked quarterly for my other health problems. My cholesterol is low.

I'd really love for someone other than Mark Bittman or Governor (for today) Patterson to explain to me how taxing me an extra couple of bucks a day is fair or beneficial to me. Luckily, I now live in Westchester. When this takes effect, I will be driving up to Greenwhich to buy ALL of my groceries. They have an A&P and a Stop & Shop right across US1 from each other. I generally don't go to bars anymore, but I will also most likely be ordering a beer, instead of a coke.

1 posted on 03/17/2010 12:32:18 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Well, there is no such thing as second hand soda, so I’m not sure how far the analogy will go.


2 posted on 03/17/2010 12:33:19 PM PDT by Persevero ("Our culture is far better than a retarded Islamic culture." -Geert Wilders)
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To: presidio9
Will there be a soft-drink extortion agreement with Coke and Pepsico like the tobacco extortion agreement?
3 posted on 03/17/2010 12:35:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: presidio9
The HFCS does cause diabetes.

It directly upsets the livers enzyme balance.

So that's a big issue right there.

4 posted on 03/17/2010 12:36:16 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: presidio9

I guess this explains why the commie ‘RATS needed to throw out the ten commandments. The commie piggies have decided that it’s their call which are sins and which are not sins. Typical commie garbage.


5 posted on 03/17/2010 12:36:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (How much did your congressmen's vote go for? Mine got two bits. Her going price.)
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To: presidio9

Tobacco had money. The politicians couldn’t stand to see a pile of money out there and not go grab it. Now they’ve killed tobacco, they need to find another pile of money to go after. This decade, it’s the turn of soft-drink manufacturers with fast food close behind.

When they’ve been bled dry, what’s next?


6 posted on 03/17/2010 12:37:00 PM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: presidio9

We’ll tax the air,because we’re the taxman.


7 posted on 03/17/2010 12:37:15 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: presidio9

The New Prohibition will outlaw alcohol, tobacco products,trans-fats and sugar for out own good.


8 posted on 03/17/2010 12:37:30 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I don't have a drinking problem, I have a sobriety problem.)
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To: norraad
The HFCS does cause diabetes.It directly upsets the livers enzyme balance.

As does table sugar and fruit juice. They're all bad (in high dosage).
9 posted on 03/17/2010 12:38:33 PM PDT by WackySam (To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead.)
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To: Persevero

Speaking of second-hand smoke. Anybody living in a city that has outlawed public smoking, or a state that is outlawing transfats (Mass., Md, Vt., Wa...), should be watching this closely. NY & NYC are the cradles of this sort of stupidity, but once liberals see that it can be done elsewhere, they can’t wait to join the party.


10 posted on 03/17/2010 12:38:39 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

The do-gooder is relentless ... and always needs a target.


11 posted on 03/17/2010 12:39:01 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: presidio9

’ Joint Committee on Taxation calculated that a 3-cent tax on each 12-ounce sugared soda would raise $51.6 billion over a decade’

NO

When you tax a luxury item(which is what soda is) consumption of that product will drop thereby offsetting the projected amount believed to be raised.

Another item will appear ,like sweeten tea, and many will substitute.


12 posted on 03/17/2010 12:39:37 PM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Persevero
Well, there is no such thing as second hand soda

What if it is a pregnant woman drinking the soda?

13 posted on 03/17/2010 12:40:02 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Persevero

but there is second hand fat- most noticable in theatres and airlines.


14 posted on 03/17/2010 12:40:10 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

“What if it is a pregnant woman drinking the soda? “

Aha!


15 posted on 03/17/2010 12:40:25 PM PDT by Persevero ("Our culture is far better than a retarded Islamic culture." -Geert Wilders)
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To: absolootezer0

Oh that fat might make you uncomfortable. But it won’t harm your health.


16 posted on 03/17/2010 12:41:03 PM PDT by Persevero ("Our culture is far better than a retarded Islamic culture." -Geert Wilders)
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To: presidio9

Fast forward thirty years. Imagine that you have switched to diet pepsi to avoid the calories in those 5-6 cans of regular Pepsi. Now, following the logic (if you can call it that) of this latest Nanny State power grab, you should pay less for the diet soda, right? Isn’t the goal to charge more only for soda with that evil sugar?

Anyone who has ever bought soda knows that the price of diet soda is always the same as the price of regular soda, no matter what the price of sugar is doing. So if the price of a six pack of Pepsi goes up to ten bucks so will the price of a six pack of diet Pepsi.

These people need to get a life and leave us alone.


17 posted on 03/17/2010 12:42:30 PM PDT by freespirited (We're not the Party of No. We're the Party of HELL NO!!!)
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To: presidio9

It’s just another way for the government to squeeze more tax dollars out of us. Elitist liberals drink Perrier. I wish busybodies like this liberal Bittman would shut up.


18 posted on 03/17/2010 12:42:33 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: presidio9

This is going to happen (the Fat Tax), as soon as a bunch of Lawyers file a Class Action and gain Billions in compensation for themselves, and every fatass that joins the suit will get a coupon for Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi. Same as Big Tobacco, Big Soda will get their deep pockets attacked...


19 posted on 03/17/2010 12:43:22 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Nanny state ping.


20 posted on 03/17/2010 12:43:47 PM PDT by freespirited (We're not the Party of No. We're the Party of HELL NO!!!)
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