Posted on 03/19/2010 4:33:29 PM PDT by Kaslin
States' Rights: Idaho requires its attorney general to sue the feds if ObamaCare passes while Virginia, the cradle of liberty, heads the line of states in front of the federal courtroom. Somewhere Patrick Henry is smiling.
As the second coming of King George III seeks to impose the leftist mandate of national health insurance on the unwilling American people, the states are once again in revolt. This time they're unwilling to be the colonies of an imperial federal government determined to spend and tax us into bankruptcy while treating the Constitution as if it were bird cage liner.
Is this what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they risked being hanged by the British crown because they said we shouldn't be taxed without representation? Well, we have representation, and they care not about the people they represent. We can now pass laws by not voting on them, almost as if by imperial decree. We have become the Venezuela of Hugo Chavez.
Not amused is Idaho, the latest state to jump into the fray last Wednesday, with Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter signing into law a measure requiring the state attorney general to sue the federal government if residents are forced to buy health insuranc
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And who will make us buy it if the courts DON’T overturn it? There are still FAR MORE of us and than there are of THEM and WE ARE ARMED (should it come to that, which it may but we still have many things to happen prior to that). (Thanks for the post!)
That’s a great photo. And very true.
You gotta ask yourself: why should a child who is 3 years old now agree to be saddled with the payments on a national debt that will be about in the $70,000 range when they become an adult? (And that’s just assuming compounded interest of 4%.)
The answer: they shouldn’t and they won’t. Debt repudiation isn’t so much an “if” but a “when.” Tomorrow’s adults are not going to agree to be saddled with an unconscionable level of debt that they had no part in creating and never agreed to repay.
We’re effectively bankrupt. The sooner we default, the sooner the rebuilding starts.
Agree that timing is everything. But keep in mind that the mere threat of default will turn the debt toxic. Giving the devil his due: James Carville was right.
One side benefit of defaulting is that it makes a balanced budget amendment a distinct probability. The politicians will never agree to it so long as they can go into debt. Take that ability away and there is no reason to stop the amendment from being pased. It won’t matter for us, but our grandkids will thank us.
“Monday may very well be one of the most interesting days we wake up to in our countries history...”
I think the meeting at the old North Bridge in 1775 was also interesting because it showed Americans that tyrants bleed and die like anyone else.
“I certainly hope that we have the strength of will needed to make our grandkids proud of us..”
With all respect, I don’t think our will is going to much enter into the equation. It’s going to boil down to a decision made by multitudes of debtholders. Once those who are providing the funding decide that they’re unlikely to see payment, and that day is coming irregardless, we’re going to be on forced austerity. I just think we’re better off having that day come sooner rather than later.
As with sovereign defaults elsewhere, what happens to the population at large will be categorized as “unfortunate collateral damage.”
Oh, I agree. We should have no illusions that this is going to be some sort of exoneration. We will pay dearly for this even if we turn our backs on the national debt tomorrow.
Yes, I lived in the Norfolk area. There was no place on earth more beautiful than Norfolk in the 50’s and 60’s.
Always will love Virginia:))
Thrilled to see the new gop governor elected as I was very upset over what happened with Sen George Allen
Maybe you do, maybe you do not...But do you realize this AND other un-Constitutional Federal laws are not easily “nullified” as you and many others believe is ALL that needs to be done...
The feduciary revenue generating mechanism in MOST Federal laws is the key...A state cannot simply declare the law to be un-Constitutional or non-binding, when the tax man comes the checks ALL go to that big pot of gold that has more hands in it than a two year olds birthday cake...Most states have not figured out how to control where their Constitutional and legal revenue obligations when it hits the Federal coffers...
This WHOLE issue since Obama hit the scene is still too new and fast paced for states to get their act together...But, it is getting there...
Texas is working on a bill right now, that unfortunately the legislature only seats every two years on the odd year, meaning January 2011...When that bill hits the floor, we thought the Voter ID bill (last session) was polarizing...hehehe, this will go thermonuclear...
It will give teeth (fangs) to the non-binding declaration last session of our states rights in regards to the Tenth Amendment...
Texas along with a whole gaggle of other states are preparing these bills, and their prospective AG’s are being told to be ready to file lawsuits on the Fed as a result of just this one healthcare bill...
So I believe the healthcare bill will barely squeek by and be passed...The democrats are going to gloat, and we are all going to be pretty pizzed that they did this...
As a result, they believe that we do not have the guts to follow thru with our efforts...
So I recommend we reside ourselves to the fact that the healthcare bill will pass, because they need it too, to immediately inact the taxing mechanisms and collection of revenue immediately...That has been their only plan from the begining...It is not about doing anything but controlling the healthcare industry and destroying it, with the ability to tax us to new levels and redistribute just like Obama wanted to do all along...
It is that simple...
So, lets hope we put as much pressure on our conservative Reps and Senators to get off their collective arses and follow thru to defund this healthcare law, and get the other un-Constitutional laws that effect us on the chopping block...
And you know they are not going to go down without a fight, because the central theme to un-Constitutional laws are the taxes and entitlements that feed their own voting base...
Lets hope that this will be a war without firing a shot, because in that case we all lose...
Perhaps, such unConstitutional laws are not that easy to be nullified but they can be nullified. History provides sufficient examples starting with 1832 and as late as 2009.
http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/12/will-michigan-nullify-federal-gun-laws/
What groups are readying the legal challenges? Such a list on freerepublic could lead to lots of financial support for the right side.
Actually, that provision is there to prevent the legislature from spending money all the time. And Perry could call a special session at any time.
I’ve already read/heard from a few sources that there are several constitutional challenges ready to go if those morons pass this monstrosity.
Got that right...
The calls Monday to our state reps and senators should rival what has been going on up in D.C. late this week...
Calls to Gov. Perry to call a special session is in my opinion in order...They should do this...
Legal challenges may not work. If we can get 38 states to sue to overturn Obamacare, why not call a Constitutional convention? 38 is 3/4 of the states.
I agree, they may only slow this down, not stop it...
But I am wary of even a Constitutional Convention...That is a dangerous card to play...That could backfire in this case...
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