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Measure to legalize marijuana will be on California's November ballot (Dude)
Los Angeles Times ^ | March 24, 2010

Posted on 03/25/2010 3:21:41 PM PDT by Zakeet

Supporters of the initiative collected well more than the 433,971 signatures needed for it to go before voters in the fall, again putting the state at the forefront of the nation's drug debate.

An initiative to legalize marijuana and allow it to be sold and taxed will appear on the November ballot, state election officials announced Wednesday, triggering what will probably be a much-watched campaign that once again puts California on the forefront of the nation's debate over whether to soften drug laws.

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With polls showing that a slim majority of voters support legalization, the legalization campaign will be trying to appeal to a slice of undecided voters who are mostly mothers. "It's always easier for people to say no than to say yes for an initiative," said Mark Baldassare, the pollster for the Public Policy Institute of California.

[Oakland marijuana entrepreneur] Lee hopes to raise as much as $20 million. He will probably be able to tap a handful of wealthy advocates who have supported efforts to relax drug laws, including multibillionaire investor George Soros and George Zimmer, founder of the Men's Wearhouse. Zimmer has donated at least $20,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2010election; ballotinitiative; bongbrigade; ca2010; california; marijuana; potheads; weed
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Like man, like we need something to like help us deal with Nazi Pelosi, Nostrils Waxman, Babs Boxhead, Diane Finestine, Moonbeam Brown, Willy Brown, Ahnode what's his name, Hollyweird, and all them other Libtards. Dude.

1 posted on 03/25/2010 3:21:41 PM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

“It’s always easier for people to say no than to say yes for an initiative...”

Bull. It’s the reverse.


2 posted on 03/25/2010 3:23:27 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Zakeet

England kept China whacked out on opium, guess it is out turn.


3 posted on 03/25/2010 3:26:32 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Zakeet

If deficits, taxes, regulations and the resulting lousy economic conditions aren’t enough drive decent people from California, increasing the number of losers high on pot and other drugs will.


4 posted on 03/25/2010 3:26:45 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Brilliant

Why use it to raise taxes? Besides, people are not looking to having increased income taxes.


5 posted on 03/25/2010 3:29:00 PM PDT by discocrico
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To: Zakeet

Making Marijuana and other drugs legal does have some benefits:

>> Less burglaries and robberies committed by addicts who can not afford the high street prices of illegal pot

>> Fewer cops needed to arrest pot smokers

>> Fewer jails needed to house arrested pot smokers

>> Fewer judges needed to preside over court trials

>> Fewer bailiffs needed in court trials

>> Fewer defense lawyers needed and subsidized by tax payers

>> Fewer court buildings to try pot smokers

>> Fewer criminal gangs making profits on selling pot

>> Bring in additional tax revenues on legal sale of pot

>> Pot is illegal now, and it does not stop any one from obtaining it

>> Alcohol was prohibited during great depression and it made Al Capone very very rich selling bootleg booze.


6 posted on 03/25/2010 3:30:33 PM PDT by ajay_kumar (Need more Republicans of all stripes in congress to stop Obama's socialist agenda)
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To: Ol' Sparky

How can the Feds stop them? Let me guess, some twisted reading of the “interstate commerce clause.”

There is a bright side to what is going on now. In the next few years we will have the most educated populous ever in regards to our rights, our real rights as given to us by God, not the right to this and that and cable and cell phones.

Whether everyone used this knowledge for good is to be seen but I think it will work out for the better in the end as we will be able to point out the truth the people and point out the lying liars and the lies they are telling.


7 posted on 03/25/2010 3:31:56 PM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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To: Zakeet

Legalize it and solve a ton of problems...Besides I would rather encounter a stoner in traffic than a drunk..any day...


8 posted on 03/25/2010 3:32:29 PM PDT by devane617 (VOTE THEM OUT! ALL OF THEM!)
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To: ajay_kumar

Just so you don’t make any hasty decisions, I personally
have never smoked pot and don’t intend to do it in future.
Heck, I abhor smoking of all types. It makes me nauseous.


9 posted on 03/25/2010 3:33:13 PM PDT by ajay_kumar (Need more Republicans of all stripes in congress to stop Obama's socialist agenda)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Think about this....you pass this and the month that it’s approved...you turn the cops loose with on-the-spot ‘high’ tests for drivers. German cops do this and on a Friday night after 10PM, they typically can get forty tickets easily. Maybe this is a great way to make more income via traffic tickets. If you think about it...they will allow you to smoke the stuff....but if you are driving under the influence....you will be heavily fined. Folks don’t grasp this part of the deal.


10 posted on 03/25/2010 3:35:13 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: ajay_kumar
Making Marijuana and other drugs legal does have some benefits

It's STUPID idea that will increase the number of losers smoking pot, increase the number of potheads that negligently kill and harm others, increase all drug usage, drug trafficking and a crime.

Liberaltarians are in many as stupid as liberals.

11 posted on 03/25/2010 3:37:58 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: discocrico
Why use it to raise taxes? Besides, people are not looking to having increased income taxes.

It's not an income tax, it's a tax on dope smokers.

An initiative to legalize marijuana and allow it to be sold and taxed will appear on the November ballot

Whether or not one thinks it's a good idea, it certainly is a states' rights issue. There is no provision in the US Constitution for the Federal Gov't to regulate drugs, medicines, vitamin supplements or much of anything that doesn't cross state or federal borders.
Will it pass? Probably, imo. We will see the results.

12 posted on 03/25/2010 3:39:40 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Give 'em hell, Sarah!)
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To: Ol' Sparky

You are stupid in making that assumption. Just do a little home work and study the crime patterns in countries that have made pot legal and you will find there is no increase in crime.

Besides, can you name me ONE pot addict who can not obtain it on the street illegally?


13 posted on 03/25/2010 3:39:49 PM PDT by ajay_kumar (Need more Republicans of all stripes in congress to stop Obama's socialist agenda)
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To: devane617
Legalize it and solve a ton of problems.

No, creates a lot of problems -- more losers getting high and harming others, more drug trafficking and usage as marijuana is a gateway drug and more crime due to the increased crime. That is precisely what has happened when it was been legalized.

15 posted on 03/25/2010 3:42:30 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: devane617

Forget legalizing this it does nothing for job growth.

Legalize full vegas style CASINO GAMBLING, construction would shot threw the roof, 1000’s of jobs and property values would start going up again. win, win, win, everybody wins.


16 posted on 03/25/2010 3:44:32 PM PDT by bakoj (What doesn't kill me, makes me stronger.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

I am still waiting......

Please name ONE pot addict who can not obtain pot illegally on the street.


17 posted on 03/25/2010 3:44:45 PM PDT by ajay_kumar (Need more Republicans of all stripes in congress to stop Obama's socialist agenda)
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To: ajay_kumar
You are stupid in making that assumption.

I'm stating FACTS, not making assumptions. Marijuana use, all drugs usage and drug trafficking all dramatically have increased in the left-wing Netherlands when it was decriminalized there.

It's amazing this sort of stupidity being promoted at a conservative website. This is the sort thing that should be promoted at the Daily Kos by the idiots there.

18 posted on 03/25/2010 3:45:30 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: ajay_kumar
Please name ONE pot addict who can not obtain pot illegally on the street.<

Are you really trying to claim the law doesn't deter? It does. When legalizing something that has been illegal, you increase the amount of that activity.

http://www.sarnia.com/GROUPS/ANTIDRUG/argument/myths.html

Dr. K. F. Gunning, president of the Dutch National Committee on Drug Prevention, cites some revealing statistics about drug abuse and crime. Cannabis use among students increased 250 percent from 1984 to 1992.

19 posted on 03/25/2010 3:50:16 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Ol' Sparky
increasing the number of losers high on pot and other drugs will.

Legalizing marijuana will not increase it's use. It's already ridiculously easy to get - easier than beer, since no one is carding kids who buy weed.
20 posted on 03/25/2010 3:51:20 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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