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To: ventanax5

there are over a billion muslims on the planet. if they were all jihadis, they’d be running the world.


2 posted on 04/05/2010 9:01:04 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the media is your daddy.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Mr. McCarthy wrote, “I don’t think there is much difference, if any, between Islam and Islamism.”

Islamists are Muslims who would like to see sharia (Islamic law) installed. That is the necessary precondition to Islamicizing a society. It is the purpose of jihad. The terrorists are willing to force sharia’s installation by violent jihad; other Islamists have varying views about the usefulness of violence, but they also want sharia, and their jihadist methods include tactics other than violence. I reluctantly use the term “Islamist” rather than “Islam” because I believe there are hundreds of millions of Muslims … who do not want to live under sharia, and who want religion to be a private matter, separated from public life. It is baffling to me why these people are Muslims since, as I understand Islam, (a) sharia is a basic element, and (b) Islam rejects the separation of mosque and state. But I’m not a Muslim, so that is not for me to say. I think we have to encourage the non-sharia Muslims and give them space to try to reform their religion, so I believe it’s worth labeling the sharia seekers “Islamists” in order to sort them out. But I admit being very conflicted about it because I also concede that the Islamists have the more coherent (and scary) construction of Islam. We wouldn’t be encouraging reform if we really thought Islam was fine as is.


4 posted on 04/05/2010 9:03:15 AM PDT by ventanax5
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To: the invisib1e hand

They’re working on it.

There is no such thing as islam’ism.’ It’s a fiction.


5 posted on 04/05/2010 9:03:37 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“if they were all jihadis, they’d be running the world.”

That’s the goal. The thing is, if they were all jihadis, we’d be united in fighting them. The Liberals would have no excuse for not doing so. By having some of them pose as “peaceful”, we’re deprived of the moral justification to fight them all, and the Liberals have the means to say, “See, they’re not all alike.”

The difference between “peaceful” islamists and jihadis is methodology - not the ultimate goal.


6 posted on 04/05/2010 9:04:07 AM PDT by avoth
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To: the invisib1e hand

They are making inroads pretty quickly. Give ‘em a few more years. Nobama will help.


14 posted on 04/05/2010 9:17:49 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: the invisib1e hand

“…over a billion Muslims on the planet…”

Well there are over a billion Christians on the planet, who have tolerated Islamic Fascism for too long!

Islam is not a religion; it is however, a military and quasi-governmental movement, similar to Nazism or Communism.


16 posted on 04/05/2010 9:19:57 AM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: the invisib1e hand
there are over a billion muslims on the planet. if they were all jihadis, they’d be running the world.

Only 10% of people in the US military have a job that involves firing weapons at anybody. The other 90% are involved in feeding, transporting and supplying the 10%. And the military is dependent upon the hundreds of millions of taxpaying US citizens for financial and moral support.

A Muslim who is opposed to the idea of Jihad, and to the idea of Islam dominating the world, to the extent of being willing to actively oppose jihad, is not a Muslim.

17 posted on 04/05/2010 9:23:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
there are over a billion muslims on the planet. if they were all jihadis, they’d be running the world.

Where are the moderate billion? They are strangely silent, and the jihadis "swim among them like fish in water" (paraphrasing Mao).
18 posted on 04/05/2010 9:39:50 AM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: the invisib1e hand

all they need and do have is a 10% army... and it is in the tube already.


19 posted on 04/05/2010 9:39:58 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: the invisib1e hand

very true - a billion jihadi would run the place - except once they took over the world they’d start fighting with themselves, blowing themselves up and cutting off their daughters’ heads to demonstrate how honorable they are. Like orcs in Tolkein’s world, there’s a long-term downside to being blood-thirsty, hateful animals.


21 posted on 04/05/2010 9:45:17 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: the invisib1e hand
If 5% were Jihadis they'd be doing a lot of killing ~ and they are.

It's up to the 95% who are closest to them to creep up on them in the night and slit their throats (or something like that).

22 posted on 04/05/2010 9:45:44 AM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: the invisib1e hand

No, they’d all be dead and their homelands would be glass parking lots.


23 posted on 04/05/2010 11:03:05 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: the invisib1e hand

They are on their way to doing that. Islam is the problem, and “moderate” Muslims are not coming to the rescue. It is time for all non-Islamic countries to end their immigration. It is the Trojan Horse.


25 posted on 04/05/2010 1:09:04 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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