Posted on 04/05/2010 8:59:25 AM PDT by ventanax5
Charles Krauthammer caused grave unhappiness among some of his admirers last month when, speaking on Fox News, he attacked the Dutch politician Geert Wilders. At issue was Wilders’s campaign against the “Islamization” of Europe, particularly in the Netherlands. “What he says,” Dr. Krauthammer charged, “is extreme, radical, and wrong”:
He basically is arguing that Islam is the same as Islamism. Islamism is an ideology of a small minority which holds that the essence of Islam is jihad, conquest, forcing people into accepting a certain very narrow interpretation [of Islam]. The untruth of that is obvious. If you look at the United States, the overwhelming majority of Muslims in the U.S. are not Islamists. So, it’s simply incorrect. Now, in Europe, there is probably a slightly larger minority but, nonetheless, the overwhelming majority are not.
Dr. Krauthammer’s was not the only voice on Fox News condemning Wilders last month. Glenn Beck hauled out the “F-word,” describing Wilders as “fascist,” while William Kristol, the editor of The Weekly Standard, warned that Wilders was a “demagogue.”
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there are over a billion muslims on the planet. if they were all jihadis, they’d be running the world.
Fox is bowing to the Saudi Prince.
It was a disgusting display.
Mr. McCarthy wrote, “I don’t think there is much difference, if any, between Islam and Islamism.”
Islamists are Muslims who would like to see sharia (Islamic law) installed. That is the necessary precondition to Islamicizing a society. It is the purpose of jihad. The terrorists are willing to force sharia’s installation by violent jihad; other Islamists have varying views about the usefulness of violence, but they also want sharia, and their jihadist methods include tactics other than violence. I reluctantly use the term “Islamist” rather than “Islam” because I believe there are hundreds of millions of Muslims … who do not want to live under sharia, and who want religion to be a private matter, separated from public life. It is baffling to me why these people are Muslims since, as I understand Islam, (a) sharia is a basic element, and (b) Islam rejects the separation of mosque and state. But I’m not a Muslim, so that is not for me to say. I think we have to encourage the non-sharia Muslims and give them space to try to reform their religion, so I believe it’s worth labeling the sharia seekers “Islamists” in order to sort them out. But I admit being very conflicted about it because I also concede that the Islamists have the more coherent (and scary) construction of Islam. We wouldn’t be encouraging reform if we really thought Islam was fine as is.
They’re working on it.
There is no such thing as islam’ism.’ It’s a fiction.
“if they were all jihadis, they’d be running the world.”
That’s the goal. The thing is, if they were all jihadis, we’d be united in fighting them. The Liberals would have no excuse for not doing so. By having some of them pose as “peaceful”, we’re deprived of the moral justification to fight them all, and the Liberals have the means to say, “See, they’re not all alike.”
The difference between “peaceful” islamists and jihadis is methodology - not the ultimate goal.
Wilders does not want the Netherlands to become a Muslim nation, because then it would cease to be Dutch in any sense of the word.
The number of “peaceful” Muslims may be a similar percentage to those Germans who opposed Hitler’s policies. Too small a number to be worthy of consideration.
Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology.
It is NOT a religion.
A fascist for wanting his country to close its borders to a civilization-destroying culture? If that's Beck's definition, than I'm an F-word as well.
islam = islamic fascist
There may be “moderate” moslems, but there is NO moderate Islam.
The founder of this barbaric death cult, Mohammed, is considered by the “holy” texts of Islam to be the “perfect man”.
This “perfect man” was a pirate, warrior, thief, rapist, pedophile, polygamist, adulterer, murderer, torturer, executioner, trucebreaker, slave trader, slave owner. He was harsh and brutal. He gave all his newly conquered subjects three choices: conversion, slavery, or death. Many times, Mohammed made the choice for them without asking, usually by murdering thousands indiscriminately.
The problem/solution is contained in the headline.
If Islam ACTUALLY did vs. islamism, islamism wouldn’t exist.
They are making inroads pretty quickly. Give ‘em a few more years. Nobama will help.
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“…over a billion Muslims on the planet…”
Well there are over a billion Christians on the planet, who have tolerated Islamic Fascism for too long!
Islam is not a religion; it is however, a military and quasi-governmental movement, similar to Nazism or Communism.
Only 10% of people in the US military have a job that involves firing weapons at anybody. The other 90% are involved in feeding, transporting and supplying the 10%. And the military is dependent upon the hundreds of millions of taxpaying US citizens for financial and moral support.
A Muslim who is opposed to the idea of Jihad, and to the idea of Islam dominating the world, to the extent of being willing to actively oppose jihad, is not a Muslim.
all they need and do have is a 10% army... and it is in the tube already.
Sort of like a Christian that doesn’t support Christian ideals?
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