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Army to court martial 'birther' officer
msnbc ^ | April 13, 2010 | Mark Murray

Posted on 04/13/2010 1:39:03 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

U.S. military officials tell NBC News that the U.S. Army will court martial a lieutenant colonel who refuses to deploy to Afghanistan because he considers orders from President Obama to be "illegal."

Army doctor Lt. Col. Terry Lakin believes Obama does not meet the constitutional requirements to be president and commander-in-chief

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; bhodod; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; courtmartial; eligibility; fraud; ineligible; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrylakin; usurper
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Any lawyers out there (esp. military AGs) know if this gives the LtCol “standing” to discover the LF/BC?

All orders issued to a uniformed member of the United States Armed Forces ultimately originate with the POTUS.If the individual occupying that office is,in fact,not qualified under our Constitution to hold that office then I would assume that any order issued is invalid.I was taught in BCT (*many* years ago) that a soldier is allowed to...in fact,is *obliged* to...disobey any "illegal" or "unlawful" order.

201 posted on 04/14/2010 9:02:02 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Wouldn't a Christian simply show his bc rather than destroy a mans military career??

Obama is a Christian? Since when?

202 posted on 04/14/2010 9:02:06 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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To: Repeat Offender
Take those "stupid sounds" and stick them up your ###

Since you find my insults are so injurious , I guess you are prescribing a medical procedure .

203 posted on 04/14/2010 9:02:54 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: jamese777; All

“Just last week the Indiana Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal in this case so the Appeals Court’s decision stands.”

The NBC requirement of the COTUS is a FEDERAL not STATE issue. It requires a FEDERAL court to rule. Although, I will grant that a state ruling like this is not a good sign.
It shows how judiciary is leaning....at least in Indiana. What if a court in another state ruled differently? This is not beyond the realm of possibility. Anyway, it needs to be decided by the SCOTUS.


204 posted on 04/14/2010 9:04:02 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: wastedyears
Obama is a Christian? Since when?

Since Axelrod informed him that admitting that he was an atheist would cost him at least 150 Electoral Votes.

205 posted on 04/14/2010 9:04:49 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: thethirddegree

Look, that’s really inappropriate. I don’t like the guy, wish he wasn’t president but don’t really think anyone should wish him dead.

Cindie


206 posted on 04/14/2010 9:04:58 AM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
be ignored.

Thank you

207 posted on 04/14/2010 9:05:12 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

The military system is far more defendant-friendly than the civilian system. As a former military proescutor, I would rather be tried in a military court than in any other forum.

The interesting thing here is that the Obama administration MUST recuse itself as to any involvement whatsoever so as to avoid breaching the rules against “undue command influence”.

The military justice system is ultimately run by the commanders. Lawyers and judges run the trials, but the prosecution is run by the command, and ultimately the command can always overturn a conviction or reduce the penalty imposed (but the command cannot overturn an acquittal or increase the penalty imposed).

The judges and defense attorneys are independent of the commanders through a very effective “Chinese wall”. The commanders and prosecutors are also protected by the prohibition of undue command influence, which prohibits a senior commander from influencing how a junior commander handles a case. Commanders decide whether to prosecute. And the senior commander cannot interfere with that decision. A senior commander can bring the case up to his level, however. But that is often avoided so that the senior commander will not have his name on the decision.

If any senior commander even hints that they are taking Obama’s wishes account, then the defendant will be able to pursue a new trial.


208 posted on 04/14/2010 9:07:39 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: thethirddegree

Was it the same God you hoped at for Obama to lose the election?


209 posted on 04/14/2010 9:08:59 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Repeat Offender

See post # 196 and this

http://web.archive.org/web/20040810141229/eastandard.net/headlines/news13050410.htm


210 posted on 04/14/2010 9:09:47 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: driftdiver

Love how the media spins it, like its a fact from on high. They have to add in their reports “(incorrectly).” This is great, it shows some desperation, they have to spoon feed the public on the issue and on what to believe. “Army doctor Lt. Col. Terry Lakin believes Obama does not meet the constitutional requirements to be president and commander-in-chief, because he believes (incorrectly) that Obama wasn’t born in the United States.” Thank you media, we could never decide the issue ourselves like with a jury or in a legal forum expressly authorized to actually determine facts. - His wife said it. His Grandma Sarah Obama said it. Kenyan Ambassador Peter N.R.O. Ogego said it. His half-brother and half-sister have said it. NPR said it.-”Kenyan-born Sen. Barack Obama” NPR 10/9/2008, Ofeibea Quist-Arcton

Do you now, finally beleive it? I do.

Obama is the biggest FRAUD of the 21st century!!

3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14


211 posted on 04/14/2010 9:10:25 AM PDT by steve0 (My plan B: christianexodus.org/)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

His Birth certificate is sealed, his school records are sealed and he promised transparency. Sounds like a liar to me.


212 posted on 04/14/2010 9:12:15 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

http://www.breitbart.tv/update-army-will-court-martial-birther-officer/


213 posted on 04/14/2010 9:12:43 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Birthers = Truthers = Haliburton is Evil = Carlyle Group Runs America = Trilateral Commission = Black Helicopters = Losers

Do you see the common thread? All of these positions are losers and their net effect on policy was zero. Stop wasting your resources and do something that will make a difference.


214 posted on 04/14/2010 9:13:13 AM PDT by LibertyJihad
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To: DallasDeb
Won’t proof of Nobama’s birth have to be provided in order to convict LtCol Lakin?

In my experience, when the court martial decisions is made, investigators will dig into everything you've done for the past 20 years. Travel vouchers, fitness reports, medical records, taxes...they'll find something without every going to the original issue.

215 posted on 04/14/2010 9:14:16 AM PDT by TankerKC (I think P. T. Barnum had his time off by about 59 seconds.)
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To: Sprite518
Sorry folks, but a certificate of live birth is not a birth certificate. For instance, you can not get a U.S. passport without a birth certificate.

Wrong. I sent off to the county clerk where I was born in Illnois and asked for a copy of my birth certificate. What they sent me was a computer generated form that looked pretty much like the Hawaii COLB that Obama has shown, with the exact same information fields. The header on it said "CERTIFICATION OF BIRTH." The guy at the passport office accepted it without question. Hawaii only issues the COLB now, and people there are getting passports every day.

216 posted on 04/14/2010 9:16:02 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Thanks, I've seen them before. There's a youtube video floating around of M 0bama saying Kenya was his home country. She was speaking at the GLBT conference in 2008. Then there is the Kenyan Ambassador, his grandmother, the forensics on the COLB files, the school records with Indonesia as his citizenship.... and on and on. Not to mention that even according to the forged COLB he isn't a natural born citizen.
217 posted on 04/14/2010 9:16:44 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Obama NEEDS TO TELL US WHAT HOSPITAL, WHAT DOCTOR, GET IT?

The reg # is redacted on that photshopped COLB with suspicious graphic artifacts round on 2007 COLB.

WHY can’t we see his Occindental college reg and transcripts? He had ATTORNEYS block the release?

Because he applied as a foreign (”Indonesian” most likely in this case, he is a chameleon, based on the opportunity)student for the financial aid?


218 posted on 04/14/2010 9:21:05 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: kbennkc
We learned this past week that our brothers and sisters wearing the uniform are going without supplies including adequate food rations . Now this DOCTOR , who also took an oath to heal and do no harm , refuses to treat our soldiers in the combat zone . Not helpful . Not a hero by a damn sight .

HOGWASH! He LT Col. Lakin is more of a hero than you will ever know. HE, unlike Obozo, is upholding our US Constitution and will sacrifice much in the process.

219 posted on 04/14/2010 9:21:12 AM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: bushpilot1
The opinion of the supreme court in 1967 said a naturalized citizen had the same rights and standing as a native born citizen..based on this..are you saying a naturalized citizen can be president?

Makes it real easy for a uh... *cough* usurper to become president.

220 posted on 04/14/2010 9:22:50 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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