Skip to comments.'Birthers' to march on Washington, D.C.; Hawaii may ignore repeated birth certificate requests
Posted on 04/28/2010 3:59:03 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
As the nation's island state aims to escape the repeated requests for President Obama's birth certificate, the fringe "birther" movement sets its sights on D.C.
Hawaii has passed a bill that would allow it to ignore further "duplicative requests" by individuals and groups for Obama's birth certificate, the Associated Press reported on Wednesday.
The Pacific state has been inundated with the requests for nearly two years by those who believe Obama was not born in this country and is not eligible to be President. According to AP, they still get between 10 and 20 e-mails each week.
The bill still needs to be signed by Gov. Linda Lingle.
This comes as "birthers" reportedly plan to converge on Washington on May 29 with the Obama Care Eligibility March, claims original birther attorney Phil Berg, who runs the Web site ObamaCrimes.com. However, it is not clear how many people are actually expected to attend.
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Matter of time, the truth ALWAYS prevails.
>>Matter of time, the truth ALWAYS prevails.<<
I originally thought this birth certificate thing was stupid. Then I thought it was not relevant. Then I started comparing the veracity of the information being presented by both sides.
Then I became a birther.
“Hawaii has passed a bill that would allow it to ignore further “duplicative requests”....”
Hawaii has passed a bill that would allow it to deny the truth.
Any logical mind when confronted with the reat facts regarding the issue will come to the conclusion that..SOMETHING IS FISHY!
>>Any logical mind when confronted with the reat facts regarding the issue will come to the conclusion that..SOMETHING IS FISHY!<<
Yep. You don’t get that with other “conspiracy theories”.
Imagine if NASA went to court and spent millions to prevent people from seeing the evidence of the moon landing. Or Bush and the government spent millions in court to prevent people from circulating the audio and video of the 9/11 disaster. Contrarily, they show all the evidence that is reasonable to show, and then some.
The more you try to hide, the more fishy your position looks.
I know. Obama seems to be a real strange bird.
They make it sound like all the requests before were not ignored.
This isn't true. They are asking for public info and NOT his BC. Spinspinspin.....
“I know. Obama seems to be a real strange bird.”
Just a common yellow bellied Sapsucker.
” According to the disputed conspiracy theory, Obama was not born in Hawaii (despite a recognized birth certificate stating that he was,
as well as government officials in Hawaii,
conservative pundit Ann Coulter, Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly and others) “
Hawaii states over and over-we have Barry’s long form , never released to the public birth certificate under seal.
In addition to other “ original vital records.”
Yet, the FOX dopes and the media continue the myth that the birth certificate has been made public.
If it has..what does Hawaii have under seal ?
But, if his books are true(I know; why would they be different than any of the other whoppers he’s told), the location of his birth DOES NOT MATTER! His father was a British citizen, his mother a minor. That means he is not a natural born citizen.
Listened to Neal Boortz today and even he is questioning Obamas eligibility, JUST A LITLE
Exactly. And if you look at the version of the bill that they passed, they took out the parts about the required disclosure already having been made or the OIP agreeing that the disclosure is not required. The way it reads now it seems like it’s saying that the only issue is whether the department answered the request within the past year and the answer remains the same.
I wonder if this would have any impact on the OIP’s ability to say that a request was wrongly denied.
Not that the current OIP would ever do that. They’ve got Joesting gagged so that she just says the HDOH can decide for itself what the law means. Sigh.
The only way these people will obey the law is if a court appeal is made and it gets appealed beyond Hawaii.
The bill is here: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2010/Bills/SB2937_CD1_.HTM
Here’s what it says. I’m curious if anybody else understands it to mean that once a department has given an answer that they don’t intend to change, they are not required to disclose a record if the person asks for it again - regardless of whether their denial was proper. Here’s what the bill says:
SECTION 1. Section 92F-11, Hawaii Revised Statutes, is amended by amending subsection (b) to read as follows:
“(b) Except as provided in section 92F-13, each agency upon request by any person shall make government records available for inspection and copying during regular business hours[.]; provided that an agency shall not be required to make government records available or respond to a person’s subsequent duplicative request, if:
(1) After conducting a good faith review and comparison of the earlier request and the pending request, the agency finds that the pending request is duplicative or substantially similar in nature;
(2) The pending request has already been responded to within the past year; and
(3) The agency’s response to the pending request would remain unchanged.”
SECTION 2. Statutory material to be repealed is bracketed and stricken. New statutory material is underscored.
SECTION 3. This Act shall take effect upon its approval and shall be repealed on July 1, 2014; provided that section 92F-11(b), Hawaii Revised Statutes, shall be reenacted in the form in which it read on the day before the effective date of this Act.
Good for Neal!
Rush made a crack today about Obama being worried about having to prove his citizenship because of Arizona. I don't mind if the conservative talkers don't want to go out on a limb on this issue but to pooh-pooh it like BOR and Beck is WRONG, especially since they have no special knowledge on the subject.
That'll be the interesting part.
Me too. Obama could shut everyone up by releasing his real BC, and his school records, and his passport, and...
Instead, he has spent a lot of effort and money to keep it all secret. He must be hiding SOMETHING.
Has anyone looked at Washington state? If Ann moved back and Barry was very young, surely there is a copy there, no?
That's what happens when Beck gets attacked. He fights back.
Too back the birthers were so stupid as to attack him thinking that would entice him to their side.
Hey! The Catholic school in Jakarta would have required a birth certificate or baptismal? certificate- but Obummer wasn`t baptized ever was he? If not baptized, he is a phony Christian, too. Call Sister Superior to check out the records quick!
The conservative talking-heads are avoiding this so that they don’t get accused of sedition (fomenting the overturn of a legal election).
They know that their bully-pulpit on (FCC controlled) airwaves would immediately disappear. Give Glen, Rush and some of these others a little credit for “looking ahead”.
I don’t agree with them but, this isn’t really about these folks saving their paycheck. It’s more about preserving their voice and outreach to true patriots.
The millions spent to hide this is NOTHING for soros. It may be worth it to him just to make birthers look like kooks, essentially marginalizing a great number of foe.
Go Long. Certain “Metals.”
parsy, who is trying NOT to think about that thing you said, once.
I once asked a Kenyan guy at a bar for his ID before I could serve him. He left and never came back.
Why didn’t McCain just ask him for ID?
Will the First Lady be leading the march?
I never believed he was born in Kenya until I heard her say Kenya is his home country.
Im now a proud birther.
No, it doesn’t. Even the “truth” from the Soviet archives about Soviet penetration of the U.S. in the 1950s has been ignored by the crowd perpetually opposed to Joe McCarthy, and that includes the Bushes, doesn’t it?
Three letters: EMP
I told you NOT to say that. My abs have still not recovered. Been down for a few days. Any cool birther news?
Michael Savage interviewed Orly Taitz at length as long ago as last summer. Rusty Humphries has had LTC Lakin's spokesperson (Margaret Hemenway) on a couple times. Even George Noory has had Philip Berg on during the '08 campaign and a few times since...how come the FCC hasn't shut them down?
These people are brave to march. They will be scolded by the media endlessly but if the crowd is big enough, it could have an impact.
the brains of a whole lot of people.
If that isn't in the dictionary it should be. LOL
” Too back the birthers were so stupid as to attack him thinking that
would entice him to their side. “
Beck called anyone , like myself, who is appalled that the POTUS and CINC has a sealed birth certificate and sealed “ original vital records “ - dumb .
And the demeaning and left wing pejorative of “ birther.”
Which is no different than calling a Tea Party member a tea bagger , racist or Nazi.
He made leaps in logic which could have come right from the White House talking points.
He then ridiculed anyone who believes that Barry is being dishonest and cagey by refusing to unseal his records.
Records which most of us are required to show in the course of being an American citizen.
Or enlisting in the military.
Which is where many of us come down.
Beck is untroubled by sealed records , but, many of us are .
The fact that the CINC is sitting back and allowing Lt Col Lakin to immolate his career over his sealed birth certificate,
a birth certificate that I am sure Lt Col Lakin was required to show along his military path-should be a red flag to everyone.
Beck is giving Obama the benefit of the doubt when all indictions are that Barry is hiding something and playing loose and fast with the truth.
Which is Barry’s MO in every other area.
Beck is free to believe that Barry is suddenly being honest and truthful.
It’s Alinsky like to ridicule those of us who have gotten the measure of this slick and sick man and do not trust him ,
especially when the empirical evidence indicates otherwise.
Obama treats his birth certificate like illegals and their supporters treat showing proper ID.
He did that after the mass organized attack on him.
I'm sympathetic to the birther cause, but to organize and attack wasn't just dumb, it was stupid.
Seriously, what would you do after a bunch of schoolyard bullies jumped you?
Michelle Obama is marching???
“...the location of his birth DOES NOT MATTER!”
I fully agree with you on that, but it seems that many Freepers are still confused on that issue or they are just trying to perpetuate the confusion.