US Catholic church attacks 'draconian' Arizona law

AFP ^ | April 28,2010 | (AFP)

[NoLibZone]

The US Catholic church on Tuesday condemned Arizona's "draconian" new immigration law, saying it would alienate immigrant communities across the United States.

"This new law, although limited to the State of Arizona, could have impact throughout the nation in terms of how members of our immigrant communities are both perceived and treated," Bishop John Wester said in a statement issued on behalf of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB).

[babygene]

They can kiss my A$$, and I’m a Catholic...

[bunkerhill7]

If I wanna to see the Pope, I gotta show my papers to the Swizz Guards.

[ought-six]

It’s because of lunatic positions such as this one that I a “lapsed” Catholic. The Church saw the last of my support a few years ago, and likely won’t ever see it again.

[RC2]

I am also. The only reason the church is doing this is because a good deal of their donations come from the Hispanic community. If they didn’t come out on their side, they would loose that money.

[rbmillerjr]

How dare you.

It should be, “they can kiss my royal ass and I’m a Catholic”

[plain talk]

The US Catholic church on Tuesday condemned Arizona's "draconian" new immigration law, saying it would alienate immigrant communities across the United States.

Alienate people? Since when has the Catholic Church or any real church worried about that? If they were worried about popularity they wouldn't ban birth control. They do the things they do based on principles and not based on what people think about the Church. That's how a real church works.

[Clintonfatigued]

The Vatican needs to tell their American brethren to stay out of this.

[Alex Murphy]

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[buccaneer81]

They can kiss my A$$, and I’m a Catholic...

Ditto!

[deadrock]

Would the CC like a world without borders and without laws protecting said borders?

Does it deliberately continue to promote statist policies throughout the world to drive more and more people to hopelessness, and thus, back to the Church?

[Just mythoughts]

Alienate people? Since when has the Catholic Church or any real church worried about that? If they were worried about popularity they wouldn't ban birth control. They do the things they do based on principles and not based on what people think about the Church. That's how a real church works.

Thou shalt NOT steal still stands, I don't care what any so called flesh being claims. These people advocate theft.

[JPG]

I thought ‘draconian’ was being forced to listen to another Obama speech.

[pissant]

These bishops need to worry about other things

[john drake]

You’d be surprised how little money they give to the Catholic Church. They send most of it back to Mexico. In any large diocese in the U.S. where there is a sizable Hispanic community, the churches are generally subsidized by the Anglo-member Churches outside the barrio. As to how the money collected is divided up, you’ll never find out and I guarantee you won’t get any priest to admit it either.

[Parley Baer]

I guess the Catholic church thinks this new law is going to cut down on the pool of boys being available to select from.

[RinaseaofDs]

Not sure what happens to Bishops once they put on the mitre.

Maybe its something in the beanie they give’m.

Reminds me of the scene in “High Plain’s Drifter”:

Clint: “So, all these pilgrims here are your brothers and sisters?”

Priest: “They most certainly are!”

Clint: “Well then, I guess you won’t mind if they stay at your house tonight.”

[Cicero]

Well, in the first place, if you read the article, you'll find that the US Conference of Catholic Bishops has not met and discussed this issue.

"It certainly would lead to the rise in fear and distrust in immigrant communities," Wester, who chairs the USCCB migration committee, said.

In other words he is speaking for himself, as head of the migration committee, not for the bishops.

In the second place, this is not a matter of faith and morals, but of prudential judgment. And, frankly, he's got it wrong.

I, too, am a Catholic. But I don't let this kind of stuff bother me or, God forbid, drive me away from God. This turkey was probably made chair of the migration committee for a good (meaning bad) reason--because it's his academic specialty, or because he's a flaming PC race monger, or the like.

Yes, you have to feel sorry for the poor and afflicted of the world. But that doesn't mean they have a right to break the law. There's plenty of wealth and resources right down in Mexico, if they just get their act together. Meantime, it's not helping anyone to put them on welfare, break all the laws, and bankrupt America.

[WellyP]

The bottom line is what this is about! The VAST majority in ILLEGALS in this country are Catholic. “The Church” is doesn’t want to lose bodies and donations!

[marajade]

“Would the CC like a world without borders and without laws protecting said borders?”

Maybe they are trying to restore the church back when they were the law.