Group: Army symbol is religious, should be changed

AP ^ | 4/29/2010 | Dan Elliott

[bravo whiskey]

tell themit’s a sword or a stake to drive through the hearts of libtard vampires (though it has to be a big stake becuase they have little black hearts leaking bile).

[Clintonfatigued]

These people have too much time on their hands. Someone needs to tell them to get a life.

[SunkenCiv]

The emblem says "Pro deo et humanitate" or "For God and humanity." ...has been in use since 1969. Wollman said references to doctors serving God and humanity date to the time of Hippocrates, a pre-Christianity Greek physician.

[greeneyes]

“There is no separation of “church and state” in the Constitution. It does forbid the creation of a state religion (such as the Church of England).”

Correct, the constitution does not use the terms “separation of church and state”.

Clarification: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof:” This pertains to a “national” religion.

Massachusetts had a state religion, and it was constitutional to do so.

Even though, Congress was forbidden, the continuous lawsuits, have allowed activist judges to remove religion and push us toward a secular society, which I am getting tired of after more than 60 years of this crap.

Why can't the secularists and atheists quit their proselytizing and pushing their agnostic sects on the majority of the people in the US?

[CIB-173RDABN]

You are correct...on all points.

[TruthConquers]

Maybe it will come to the point where Christians will wear crosses on their person, daily, as part of their clothing, NOT just jewelry.

Send the God hating commies batty raging mad.

Enough with this secular nonsense.

[little jeremiah]

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Leftists will never stop until they are either defeated - soundly - or they destroy everything that is of value. There is no possibility of compromise, reason, give and take, with them, any more than you can tame a wild boar. Wild boars are peaceable and tame and rational compared to leftists. When are enough people going to get righteously angry? What will it take to stop them?

There is no such thing as "separation of church and state" - and what they mean by it is "An atheist/gay/Muslim loving/secularist/religion repressing (except for Islam of course)/tyranny is what the founders really had in mind".

[little jeremiah]

It’s not that they have too much time.

It’s that their time is dedicated to destruction of all that gives strength and meaning to our country. They are driven. They search out and scour religious symbols to eradicate. They have teams.

[wintertime]

What will it take to stop them?
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We must get the nation’s children out of the grasp of the Marxists and into private conservative schools. We must work to shut down their temples of leftism ( EVERY GOVERNMENT K-12 SCHOOL!)

That will do it.

[little jeremiah]

I agree. Sending children to public school is tantamount to child abuse. They will be indoctrinated. And institutions of higher learning are mostly all pits as well. There used to be a list floating around FR of conservative colleges and universities. Very few. Most are total hellholes of ultra leftism.

[DHSMostWanted]

If I remember correctly the red cross represents caring for those hurt during war while the white cross symbolizes caring for those hurt during times of peace.

[piasa]

One of the members of the 4 yr old hate organization MRFF is the former ambassador and spouse of supersecret-double-ought-deep-cover spytress Valerie Plame... the tea-swilling, Niger yellowcake-denying francophile associate of Alamoudi known as “Joseph Wilson.”

[piasa]

SNIP FROM ANOTHER THREAD...

The MRFF Board of Directors is headed by Kristen Leslie (an assistant professor of Pastoral Care and Counseling at Yale Divinity School), and David Antoon (a former U.S. Air Force commander who vocally opposes the "extreme Evangelical coercive overtones influencing the Academy."

Some notable members of the MRFF Advisory Board are former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson; Smita Singh, Director of the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation's Global Development Program; and Richard T. Schlosberg III, the immediate past President and CEO of the David and Lucile Packard Foundation.

[huldah1776]

It is very hard for a rich man to get into heaven.

[piasa]

2006 : (MRFF aka MILITARYRELIGIOUSFREEDOM.ORG IS LAUNCHED -- see MICHAEL L. WEINSTEIN, JOSEPH WILSON {see PLAMEGATE, NIGERFLAP, IRAQ, GABON, NIGER, ALAMOUDI}, KRISTEN LESLIE {see YALE}, DAVID ANTOON {see USAF}, SMITA SINGH {see WILLIAM & FLORA HEWLETT FOUNDATION}, RICHARD SCHLOSBERG III {see DAVID AND LUCILE PACKARD FOUNDATION} ) ....Established in 2006, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) describes itself as "a watchdog group" that is "dedicated to ensuring that all members of the United States Armed Forces fully receive the Constitutional guarantees of religious freedom to which they and all Americans are entitled ..." The organization's primary objective is to eradicate the religious bias and "coercion" that it deems prevalent among high-ranking Christian members of the U.S. military. Toward that end, MRFF functions as "a clearinghouse for violations reported by military and civilian personnel," offering "complete anonymity" to all complainants.
Headed by retired Air Force lawyer Michael L. "Mikey" Weinstein, MRFF declares: "At a time when the United States is encouraging greater religious freedom in Muslim nations, it is imperative [sic] upon America to show by example that religious pluralism is a viable and preferred option. Any sign of hypocrisy in United States policy ... toward the free exercise of religion within the military makes it more difficult to convince others to follow our nation's chosen path."
In December 2006, MRFF issued a "Compliance Report on the Pervasive Violations of the United States Constitutional Religious Freedoms of Military Personnel." "Military and civilian personnel," says this document, "are subjected to blatant and unlawful displays of religiosity at mandatory formations, religious bias, and illegal proselytizing by their peers and superiors alike." ....{/snip}

[LiteKeeper]

What “constitutional” requirement for “separation of church and state”??????

[Albion Wilde]

Ya know, this seems or sounds like a jewish person running an organization attacking Christians again.

What aggravates me about religion attackers is that most of them have never actually read any of the scriptures they are criticizing.

[Albion Wilde]

...... the tea-swilling, Niger yellowcake-denying francophile associate of Alamoudi known as “Joseph Wilson.”

...... the tea-swilling, Niger yellowcake-denying, cheese-eating francophile associate of Alamoudi known as “Joseph Wilson.”

[piasa]

I knew I forgot something!

[avacado]

Liberals and the Constitution? Surly you jest...