Noah's Ark Discovery News Conference (in English)

YouTube.Com ^ | April 27th, 2010 | Noah's Ark Ministries International

[FootBall]

YouTube video of Noah's Ark Ministries International News Conference in Hong Kong (In English)

Click Picture Below for YouTube video.

[RoadTest]

” It seems that the Ark has been “found” every two years or so for a while.”

The reason for that is severe mountain weather. One year it’s exposed and then it’s buried in snow and/or ice for some years.

[Keflavik76]

A little glimpse of reality is disclosed once in a while so the scoffers can continue to walk in their foolish ways and the wise take heed and learn.

[raybbr]

since the world was flat back then how did the water stay on the world?and they knew nothing about this side of the world,so how did he get the animals back to the ark?there is a lot to ponder about this story.

Look up non-sequitur...

[NavyCanDo]

Despite weather you believe the flood was a actual event or not, if this structure is real and is as old as they are saying it is, (and all evidence is pointing that way), you would have to agree it's a fantastic archaeological find.

I happen to believe it was a real event, and I am in good company of other believers including Col Jim Irwin Ararat Explorer and NASA Astronaut.

[FootBall]

I guess they carried up Lava Flows along with the Wood to create one of a kind elaborate Hoax OR They planted the Wood in a fashion to look like Lava is flowing over it.

Mount Ararat was most notably Volcanically active around 3000 b.c. and a few times since. You will notice the lava flow covering the wooden beams in some places and actually ending the beams as they seem burnt through in attached picture (left center). Hard to plant something like this. Either this is Noah's Ark or an old man-made structure (ref. 1840 volcanic activity) that has been exposed to volcanic activity.



Mount Ararat is known as a StratoVolcano. This Lava tends to be Glassy like. Giving it a shimmer. In addition ice is covering the lava adds to the shimmer. It's a naturally occuring Glass called Obsidian which is found in Felsic Lava flow and is caused when this lava cools very quickly (like in a VERY cold enviroment on top at 13k Feet on Mount Ararat). Click Here for StratoVolcano Wiki The lava that flows from stratovolcanoes tends to be viscous; it cools and hardens before spreading far. The magma forming this lava is often felsic, having high-to-intermediate levels of silica (as in rhyolite, dacite, or andesite), with lesser amounts of less-viscous mafic magma. Picture of Obsidian Lava almost identical to the Chinese explorer picture I posted above.

Above is additional Information....YOU DECIDE!

[OldDeckHand]

"You will notice the lava flow covering the wooden beams"

What I see is a picture of a few beams surrounded by some stone, which might be igneous or sedimentary rock. I have NO WAY of knowing where this picture was taken, when those beams were placed there or for what reason, and neither do you.

Why you would displace common sense and elementary principles to blindly believe some internet story, is a mystery.

[SunkenCiv]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1722872.ece

http://inthefield.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/22/modern-day-noahs-ark-docks-in-hong-kong/

http://www.defendingthebible.com/PAGE-10-3D,%20ARTIFACTS-PLACES.htm

http://www.noahsarksearch.com/LeeElfred/LeeElfred.htm

http://www.noahsarksearch.com/LeeElfred/09.JPG

http://www.biblesearchers.com/ancients/noah/noah2.shtml

[SunkenCiv]

FR needs another dozen or so topics about this, all in favor, say aye!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2504178/posts?page=9#9

[Political Junkie Too]

Let me put this thought out there:

What if we found evidence of extra-terrestrial life on the planet, and not single-cell organisms but artifacts?

• Would the powers-at-large put that on the front of the New York Times?
• Would the clergy be concerned about the conflict with the current orthodoxy?
• Would others be concerned about the conflict with the current orthodoxy?
• Would country leaders be concerned about the impications towards the current power structere between nations?

Now take those same questions and apply them to finding a biblical artifact.

What would result?

-PJ

[FootBall]

So I guess you see no Black Lava Glass like substance covering the beams in the left center of the picture?

I do my Due Diligence before I post information.

This type of Lava you see (glass like) (or don’t see) is common with this type of volcano.

I have no position on believing or not believing. I look at the pictures to determine if they make sense given where they are supposively from.

Have you done any due diligence research? Instead of making elementary obvious comments?

[SunkenCiv]

:’)

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-Issues/2010/0428/Doubt-cast-on-Noah-s-ark-found-in-Turkey

the gist — Evangelical Christian and previously a member of this team, Dr. Randall Price, an evangelical Christian and former member of this team, is director of the Center for Judaic Studies at the conservative Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, wrote in a leaked email that some local Kurds “are said to have planted large wood beams taken from an old structure in the Black Sea area... During the summer of 2009 more wood was planted inside a cave at the site. The Chinese team went in the late summer of 2009 (I was there at the time and knew about the hoax) and was shown the cave with the wood and made their film...”

reprised from:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2504178/posts?page=30#30

[OldDeckHand]

'Have you done any due diligence research? Instead of making elementary obvious comments?"

Due diligence? Good grief. I'll type more slowly, perhaps that will help. I have NO IDEA about the provenance of that photograph, nor do you. I have NO IDEA what that substance is on the wall, and I suspect that a trained geologist would - at best - say that it might appear to be "fill in the blank".

Why would he qualify his statement with might appear? Because any scientist who wasn't an advocate, wouldn't be able to positively identify that rock, that wood, that rubble, without having samples of each, or other less subjective evidence.

That picture is no more proof of Noah's Arc, than a blurry, nighttime picture of distant lights might be proof of aliens on earth.

You see evidence of Noah's Arc because you want to see evidence of Noah's Arc. Psychologists have a word for this. It's called pareidolia.

[FootBall]

I said it's either Noah's Ark or a Man-Made Structure.

Can we at least agree that there is a probability that it is a man-made structure represented in the image?

Located somewhere on Earth or only in the world of Digital image manipulation?

[OldDeckHand]

" Can we at least agree that there is a probability that it is a man-made structure represented in the image? "

Sure, those beams are clearly milled - not occurring naturally in the environment. But, without verification of that photo's provenance and in the absence of a detailed archeological survey of the beam's location along with the requisite scientific tests, that structure is just as likely to be Fred Flinstone's summer home, as it is Noah's Arc.

[ColdWater]

Three ‘ifs’ and your OUT!

[Guyin4Os]

...the Unicorn that is found in multiple Biblical passages...

"Unicorn" is an incorrect English translation of the Hebrew word "r'eym." Deut. 33:17 uses the phrase "qar'ney r'eym" or "horns of a r'eym." If r'eym is properly translated "unicorn," why would "horns" be plural? The KJV translators simply got the translation wrong.

A better translation is "wild ox" or possibly "rhinoceros."

[Doe Eyes]

A rhinoceros has two horns?

[Guyin4Os]

A rhinoceros has two horns?

Some do, some only have one.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0oGkzpAEd5LWEQAXrJXNyoA?ei=UTF-8&p=rhinoceros&fr2=tab-web&fr=ytff1-sunm

[NavyCanDo]

“Why you would displace common sense and elementary principles to blindly believe some Internet story, is a mystery.”

Maybe because it's more than a freaken Internet story.

My sister knows Dr. Ron Charles Historian and Archeologist who has been to the site of the Ark on more than one occasion. He has seen the same things you are seeing in these Internet videos, and much more. He and his wife stayed with my sister while they were speaking to Churches here in the Northwest on the Ark discovery and other projects throughout the world he is involved with. He is back here again in June, and my sister has invited me to listen to his lecture and maybe visit with him in person.

[OldDeckHand]

"My sister knows Dr. Ron Charles Historian and Archeologist who has been to the site of the Ark on more than one occasion. "

Well, as compelling as I'm sure that should be, you'll excuse me if I continue to be skeptical. I don't know who Dr. Charles is, nor is he mentioned during the press conference from the thread's link, but if he's connected in some way with this, and he's a legitimate, trained and recognized archeologist, I'm sure he'll be publishing his findings & data. It is from the publication process that real scientific discovery is measured and validated, not YouTube.

Until those findings and data are published, I would suggest that a HEALTHY dose of skepticism is in order. Don't take my word for it, take theirs...

Doubt cast on Noah's ark found in Turkey