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Killers Without Conscience - 2010
2010 | Ward Dorrity

Posted on 05/07/2010 2:13:19 PM PDT by Noumenon

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To: bootless

Sunstein’s an architect, but the call to let the hammer drop won’t be his. The onlt cost-benefit anaylsis these monsters care about concerns who is left to rule from atop a heap of rubble and corpses.

A new feudalism (or worse) and a world lit only by fire will suit them just fine as long as they they think that they will be the ones in the high castle. Most of us dead. The rest of us in chains. That’s their cost-benefit analysis.


101 posted on 06/06/2010 12:14:45 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

Oh Lord, I do NOT want to ever see that.

I think that one of our strengths now is the ability to consider the unthinkable.


102 posted on 06/06/2010 12:55:08 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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To: MHGinTN

bump


103 posted on 06/06/2010 1:07:37 PM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: bootless
I think that one of our strengths now is the ability to consider the unthinkable.

Precisely. That's exactly what we need to do. And to prepare acccordingly.

104 posted on 06/06/2010 2:40:29 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

Finally got off my backside today and went down and joined up at the local club with a 500 metre range.

Time to practice.


105 posted on 06/06/2010 3:03:15 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Taffini; Quix

I trust you’ve had a chance to read Dr. Peck’s book ... there really is evil in the world and it resides in and acts through people, because it is a spiritual disease and only humans—on this planet—have a spirit in their soul of life.


106 posted on 06/06/2010 3:19:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I read most of it. Not every page.

He’s quite right, of course.


107 posted on 06/06/2010 3:33:52 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Noumenon

Sunstein’s an architect, but the call to let the hammer drop won’t be his. The onlt cost-benefit anaylsis these monsters care about concerns who is left to rule from atop a heap of rubble and corpses.

A new feudalism (or worse) and a world lit only by fire will suit them just fine as long as they they think that they will be the ones in the high castle. Most of us dead. The rest of us in chains. That’s their cost-benefit analysis.


ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

And they think their city sized lavish bunkers will insure such.

God has some surprises in store for those bunkers.


108 posted on 06/06/2010 3:35:35 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Noumenon

The mindset Sunstein ascribes to has stated that the planet should have no more than 1 billion people, preferrably less. The impulse driving these abstards is demonic in origin. But they absolutely believe they are kindness personified, only concerne3d about saving the planet. They are evil incarnate ... mister evil has no human body, so humans have to give themselves over to his use, as this bunch of evil-serving bastards are doing.


109 posted on 06/07/2010 7:15:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

They are all driven by that insatiable will to power, that unappeasable appetite to control and enslave mankind. They are monsters, all of them. Monsters.


110 posted on 06/07/2010 9:05:52 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon
Noumenon,
Thank you very much for sharing this brilliant piece with us, it is much appreciated. I also have enjoyed your recent "An Extremist Manifesto" piece and have shared it with others (with attribution). The truth can be very "troubling" to behold, but our only hope is that more and more people are exposed to it (and embrace it) everyday.
111 posted on 06/07/2010 4:04:41 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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To: bootless
...and that they would move their takeover efforts to the non-elective side of the balance sheet?

I believe that you are correct, and that much of this is going on already. I believe that it was well understood that one (or both) houses would be sure to lose the Democrat majority during this November's election cycle. (Not that anyone should expect any miraculous level of "corrective action" should (RINO) Republicans gain control. Elect enough Constitutional Conservatives, that is a different story!)

If anyone looks at the recent activity of any/all of the extra-Constitutional federal agencies (that have been created and expanded by both (R) and (D) administrations), you can see a beehive of activity focused on eliminating/diminishing our Liberties and Freedom, and ramping up the levels and force of tyranny. I refer to the FTC, FCC, EPA, etc. Much of the activity of these groups has been posted about here on FR (but sadly not many other places). These unaccountable bureaucrats in these agencies are working overtime to destroy this country. What is even worse in many cases, these entities have their own administrative judicial arms and courts that are defined to be the only relevant jurisdiction for grievances and appeals. What regime needs the Legislative and Judicial branches to continually toe the line when they can effectively rule by agency fiat?

None of this is new, been going on for far to long, but it looks like the pace is picking up rapidly. And for the most part, none of this activity is ever widely publicized until it is too late. At most, the state controlled media will make a brief mention of larger activity, and of course it is always spun in glowing terms describing how much better off we will all be once these "new rules" crack down on the {fill in the targeted villain}.

112 posted on 06/07/2010 4:23:56 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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To: zzeeman

Thanks for your kind words. Brilliant? I dunno. I’m just trying to get people to understand the nature of those who would rule us, ultimately murder and enslave us, and the pedigree of their ideas.

The history of the twentieth century has been one of mass murder, atrocity, enslavement and impoverishment on a scale that beggars the imagination. So I pose the questions:

How can you make sense of all this killing and misery?

How can you begin to comprehend the mindset that celebrates and wallows in atrocity?

How can you wrap your mind around the murderous cruelty of Islam and totalitarian collectivism and the fascination that it has for so many?

How can you prevent that from happening here?

Adn what are you willing to do to prevent it?

Tough questions. Hard answers.


113 posted on 06/07/2010 4:25:45 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon
They are all driven by that insatiable will to power, that unappeasable appetite to control and enslave mankind. They are monsters, all of them. Monsters.

As you point out here and in your main article, that will to power is insatiable. I will acknowledge that I have been very naive in my understanding and acceptance of this fact, considering that I am in my early 50s and am just waking up to these realities. I struggled for quite some time trying to understand how any man could have this level of evil desire. I was mistaken in that I assumed that "everyone was like everyone else," in that if I couldn't find it within myself to even comprehend that level of desire for control and power, I couldn't see how anyone else could.

As a more concrete example, since I was a child I could never conceive of how any man could feel comfortable owning another man as a slave, as property. I knew that it had happened very often since the beginning of recorded history, and unfortunately continues to the present. But I guess that I took an ignorant view that led me to believe that it must be more of a societal or cultural ill, i.e., the slave-owners only held slaves since that is what the larger society deemed as lawful/proper. In my ignorance I chose to blame the "larger whole" for the corruption of the individual, rather than assign the blame directly to the individual. Why? I don't know. Perhaps it was just a naive way of avoiding the ugly fact that some men are indeed evil? Maybe it was because I didn't want to believe that it could also be true for me if it was true for others, since I was operating under that mistaken belief that we were indeed "all alike" at the core.

I mistakenly assumed that the primary motivation of the evil I saw around me was purely (material) greed. In my ignorant model it did go a fair distance in explaining the results of what I saw around me. I also mistakenly assumed that their was some finite level for that (material) greed that would eventually be sated, at least enough to stop the drive for total destruction and domination. Perhaps there is for some, or even many? I don't know. But the key point that I have been missing, is that there is another drive, the purely evil lust for domination and control. I am not exactly sure why (since I haven't had enough time to both think it through and more properly educate myself), but my gut sense tells me that this drive is far stronger (than greed for the material) in those that are under its evil spell, and that it is one that is less easily (if ever) sated by incremental gain. It appears to be the one that is totally insatiable in the worst cases of afflication.

114 posted on 06/07/2010 4:51:48 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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To: Noumenon
I have to chuckle at the timing, I was writing my last post to your post #110 at the same time you were writing #113.

I believe that your article is brilliant in its clarity and directness. You explained a lot, very succinctly.

My last reply explains my trouble (that I am finally overcoming) in answering these questions.

To your last 2 questions:
- for me, I am in the process of educating myself so that I can be of some use in educating others around me. I have a lot of learning to do (and not a lot of time) so I am working double-time on that.
- I am in the process of steeling my resolve and completely internalizing the facts that I am finally coming to grips with. In short, I am finally beginning to understand the meaning (including its ultimate beautiful truth and absolute relevance to the present) of:

"It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
-- Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775

115 posted on 06/07/2010 5:09:39 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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To: zzeeman
To reply to this post and your aearlier one - The trouble as I see it, is that our sheltered existence has led us to shy away from a frank look and an unflinching comprehansion of the darker side of human nature. We simply don't want to believe it. As Peikoff has said in his Ominous Parallels it was not so much a matter of believing the Big Lie - it was the refusal to accept the Incredible Truth that led so many to walk onto the Third Reich rail cars.

The brutality of man is an age-old story. But of late, we have become disconnected from it here in America. Our pampered existence has led us into a virtual Disneyland of disbelief. But who can blame people for not wanting to belive this stuf?/ Who wants to?

Moreover, most of us don't think in terms of the pursuit of power over others. As I said in the essay, for some, absolute power is more compelling, more addictive than any drug. We can't understand that mindset because we just don't operate that way. Our moreal and ethical sensibilites are anchored in our belief in, and personal relationship with our Creator. Ujnlike the power -lusters, we have a moral compass. They don't. And they despise those of us who do. Think about it: all of the current cultural rage against and sneering at those they label 'goody two-shoes. Men of honor and simple human dignity are the sneering punch lines to liberal party jokes.

"Freedom is not synonymous with an easy life. ... There are many difficult things about freedom: It does not give you safety, it creates moral dilemmas for you; it requires self-discipline; it imposes great responsibilities; but such is the nature of Man and in such consists his glory and salvation."

Never give up.

116 posted on 06/08/2010 4:30:34 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: zzeeman

NB - I omitted the proper attribution to the quote in 116 - it was Margaret Thatcher.


117 posted on 06/08/2010 4:41:13 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon
The brutality of man is an age-old story. But of late, we have become disconnected from it here in America. Our pampered existence has led us into a virtual Disneyland of disbelief. But who can blame people for not wanting to belive this stuf?/ Who wants to?

Absolutely. I have to say that I had been a bit "stunned" by the reaction of almost all of my contemporaries (i.e., folks born in the late 40s or 50s) when I try to engage them in any conversations of substance on topics such as these (including the state of the economy, political realities, or history). I have given much thought to the "why" aspect of it, considering the apparent level of "intellect" and/or education and the overall "successful" stations in life that these people have reached. It is clear to me that the overall level of comfort and affluence that our country has enjoyed for decades has created a very self-absorbed and utterly complacent populace.

The TRUTH is too distasteful, difficult, and "upsetting" to comprehend. It is also too "large," in that we aren't talking about a few policies that may need to adjusted, or a few laws that need review and modification. It also seems "so un-American" to many because a great deal of our population (especially anyone 50 and upward) just can't accept the fact that this can ever happen in America. We have been falsely indoctrinated to believe that the government could never be "that bad" and will always "be there to protect us" in the end. These are the people that should have enough knowledge and understanding to know better. People in their 40s and upward should have been exposed to a bit more of the "truth" of our history and should have been less indoctrinated than those that are younger. But our culture and overall comfort have softened these abilities that should be present.

Younger people have a different sort of problem in coming to grips with this. As a whole, people in their 30s and younger that have been fully indoctrinated in government schools have less of the actual facts available (unless they actively seek it out now) and far less comprehension and processing skills (by design). Also working against them is the fact of their youth, i.e., what person just starting out in their adult life (still hoping at some point to marry, have a family of their own, and "prosper" to some degree, at least at some point) wants to face the dark reality of this TRUTH? It is very easy to understand why the LIE is so appealing, for it falsely offers them "everything" at no cost.

Because of the above, amongst other factors not mentioned, it is a struggle of immense proportions to gain an open mind from our populace as a whole. I certainly don't intend to be overly pessimistic or "gloomy" here, just attempting to speak truthfully. If we are to be effective to any useful degree, these are the facts that we must accept. And above all, fully embrace your closing comment:

Never give up.

118 posted on 06/09/2010 3:19:11 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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To: zzeeman
If you really want to stretch and possibly blow your mind, check out Carrol Quigley's Tragedy and Hope - A History of the World in our time. In fact, buy it while you can. Mine's heavily marked and tabbed, because damn near every page is packed with a historical perspective I've seen nowhere else.

Now, Quigley's best characterized as an authoritarian paternalist, but his reading of history and cultures is breathtaking. He is mostly correct, aside from his over-the-top hatred for this country's 'right wing'. And that doesn't really emerge until he gets to the end of his historical journey. Combine what you now know with his observations and, well... You won't look at things the same way.

As for the youth of today. A lot of them won't even understand what's happening to them - even while it's hapepning. They'll die stupid and afraid. You mentioned, what person just starting out in their adult life (still hoping at some point to marry, have a family of their own, and "prosper" to some degree, at least at some point)... The problem is for many young people, even these aspirations are lost to them. Marriage? Family? Again, sneering punch lines to filthy liberal party jokes. Or an episode of Family Guy if you can stand to watch one. It's an education, believe me. With what does one fill a shrieking moral void? I think we know.

But we should all take hope from the fact that homeschooling and concerned parents are turning out alive, alert and aware young people. They are the hope of the restored Republic.

119 posted on 06/09/2010 3:48:54 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

Hayek’s Road to Serfdom postulates that when government gets too much power (regardless of intention for good or ill), it is eventually taken over by the most ruthless.


120 posted on 06/09/2010 4:46:29 PM PDT by P.O.E. ("Danger is My Beer" - Rev. Dr. Fred Lane)
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flr


121 posted on 06/11/2010 3:09:32 PM PDT by twistedwrench
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To: Noumenon
I stand by every word of what I have written here.

I'll stand behind you on those words. An exceptional essay in both principle and execution.

BTTT

122 posted on 06/11/2010 4:05:14 PM PDT by TigersEye ("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
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To: P.O.E.
True. In The Road to Serfdom, the chapter "How the Worst Get on Top" lays it out. Interesting that Hayek's book has hit #1 on Amazon since Glen Beck menationed it. It's a real eye-opener for those who have managed to live this far without reading it.

Should be mandatory reading in all school systems. I won't hold my breath on that one, though.

123 posted on 06/12/2010 7:26:03 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: TigersEye

Thanks. I’m working on a revised version of it that has the potential for turning into a book. Trying for better flow of ideas and logic. There’s a wealth of material that begs for inclusion. Going to take a while...


124 posted on 06/12/2010 7:28:50 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

I strongly encourage you to do that and I will look forward to it. I believe there is a need and a desire for writing of that nature and caliber.


125 posted on 06/12/2010 11:57:44 AM PDT by TigersEye ("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
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To: Noumenon
If we have learned anything at all from the sad and sorry history of the previous century, it is this: whenever and wherever a government assumes the power to violate your fundamental rights to life and liberty, those who wish to strip you of your rights and claim your life as the property of the state will sooner or later gain control of the apparatus of the state. And they will use it, as I have noted above, without restraint or moral considerations of any kind. Regardless of the scope of that authority, they will exercise it to its fullest extent. If that authority encompasses the power to kill hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands, or even millions of people, sooner or later, these killers without conscience will make the fullest and most horrible use of it. The history of the 20th century bears stark and irrefutable witness to this fact. The record is crystal clear in this regard: 'state actors' will use and abuse whatever power and authority they have, to whatever extent they can, and they will actively seek the means and the opportunity to do so.

Outstanding writing and content, Noumenon. Thanks for posting it.

"The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one, and thus to create whatever the form of government, a real despotism. A just estimate of that love of power, and proneness to abuse it, which predominates in the human heart is sufficient to satisfy us of the truth of this position."
George Washington - Farewell Address, September 17, 1796, Ref: George Washington: A Collection, W.B. Allen, ed. (521)

"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action."
George Washington - : in a speech of January 7, 1790

Cordially,

126 posted on 06/14/2010 6:09:36 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Noumenon

bttt


127 posted on 06/21/2010 5:03:35 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Travis McGee

Just finished Fernando’s book. Very, very interesting. We’re not exactly Argentina in a number of cultural particulars, but there was enough there for me to re-think a few things.

Trouble is, anything can happen here. Anything. Too many variables. Too many fault lines. Events can and will take on a life of their own. We have the makings of some serious chaos brewing here. A shattered mirror.

How’d that old Creedence Clearwater song go? “There’s a bad moon on the rise...”


128 posted on 06/21/2010 6:36:08 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

I think it’ll be a LOT worse here than in Argentina. They walked back from the brink, I don’t think we will. They have a basically European, Catholic society. Even with class divisions, more binds them than not. Here, we have the Bosnia problem in many areas: three ethnic groups with a lot of simmering hatred.


129 posted on 06/21/2010 8:13:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Noumenon; Travis McGee
While I don't pretend to be an expert on Argentine history it occurs to me that they're a much more homogenous society than 'we' are. They have a several hundred year history of Catholocism, and not much of a history of individual freedom. This is no slam against the Argentine people, simply an observation.

"We" are a very diverse population spread across an area much, much larger than Argentina. Our inner city, welfare acustomed population has almost nothing in common with the productive class. And I mean almost nothing including language.

Have either of you ever listened to some of the some of what some people try to pass off as English? I live just the next county over and for the life of me I can't figure out more than about every third word.

How do you think they're going to behave when the system finally breaks down? They're going to come boiling out of those cities with a raging sense of entitlement in their heads and guns in their hands.

And it's not necessarily a racial thing. I have folks of various hues on my block that I would trust at my back any day of the week under almost any circumstances.

Variables? Yep. Wheels within wheels....

All I can do is make sure that me and mine are as prepared as possible with the resources that we've put together with our own hands. God will do what He will and we can't worry about that.

God helps those who help themselves, luck favors the prepared, and fortune favors the bold. That's the way we look at things for better or worse.

I don't see what else we can do.

Good luck to you both.

130 posted on 06/21/2010 8:47:31 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

I think if the power ever goes out for a week and the supply routes are broken to the supermarkets, gas stations and ATMs, our cities will “go bosnia.”

Once they do, it will be hard to recover them. Martial law might stop some aspects of the anarchy, but it won’t put food on the shelves.


131 posted on 06/22/2010 5:46:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Lurker

I think if the power ever goes out for a week and the supply routes are broken to the supermarkets, gas stations and ATMs, our cities will “go bosnia.”

Once they do, it will be hard to recover them. Martial law might stop some aspects of the anarchy, but it won’t put food on the shelves.


132 posted on 06/22/2010 5:46:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Lurker

I think if the power ever goes out for a week and the supply routes are broken to the supermarkets, gas stations and ATMs, our cities will “go bosnia.”

Once they do, it will be hard to recover them. Martial law might stop some aspects of the anarchy, but it won’t put food on the shelves.


133 posted on 06/22/2010 5:46:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Lurker

I think if the power ever goes out for a week and the supply routes are broken to the supermarkets, gas stations and ATMs, our cities will “go bosnia.”

Once they do, it will be hard to recover them. Martial law might stop some aspects of the anarchy, but it won’t put food on the shelves.


134 posted on 06/22/2010 5:46:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

I fear that you are correct. I’ll come back to that shattered mirror metaphor. It’ll be any individual or group with an axe to grind. Combined with the savagery borne of desperation - there’ll be no lack of that to go around. The Left has worked for years to dissolve the common bonds of trust and the social contract / glue that had worked to keep this nation together for so long. Now, they have succeeded. Talk about reaping the whirlwind...


135 posted on 06/22/2010 10:26:37 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Lurker
They're going to come boiling out of those cities with a raging sense of entitlement in their heads and guns in their hands.

That they will. And it won't take long if the one hour meltdown is even remotely accurate. Eve naround here. there's a lot of dead weight in Coeur d'Alene and the surrounding area. There there's Spokane. Folks unprepared and without a clue. A significant number of folks here in northern Idaho depend on that government check.

When it grinds to a halt, even for a few days, they'll be madder than a pack of raccoons that you just stopped feeding.

136 posted on 06/22/2010 10:35:48 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: elpinta

Great reading.


137 posted on 06/25/2010 10:26:57 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: wally_bert

Monday bump.

BLOAT - and turn that ammuntion into skill.


138 posted on 06/28/2010 12:33:00 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

This is a truly brilliant essay. Thank you for the effort to clarify so much, so well. I encourage you to try to get it published more widely.

Well done!


139 posted on 06/30/2010 10:25:07 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker

Thank you for the kind words. I do believe that I’m on to something. This essay is turning into a book, and will cover much more. It is curious to me that so many authors dance around the role that the Will to Power plays in animating history’s worst tyrants and mass murderers.

It is also vital that we recognize and destroy those who seek that same adulterine power. The human race can’t stand much more of this and still call itself human.


140 posted on 06/30/2010 10:32:27 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

A most interesting read that you sent me. I’m almost done with it. Thanks.


141 posted on 06/30/2010 10:35:54 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Noumenon

Wow, if you can keep up that level of pith throughout a hard cover you’ll gain fame as one of the greatest authors of conservative social commentary. It is sort of a psychoanalysis of political motivation (take that as a compliment, even if psychoanalysis in the clinical sense is tarnished). Another FReeper suggested submitting this essay to a periodical? Have you done that? Seems like a appropriate stepping stone. Glad to have you in the Great Inland Northwest (I think that’s where you are).


142 posted on 06/30/2010 11:00:02 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Lurker

Cool. Be interested in your thoughts.


143 posted on 06/30/2010 3:48:16 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: steve86

Yes, I live north of CDA and south of Sandpoint. Nice area.

About the book. I hardly even mentioned Antonio Gramsci in this essay. I’ve got an entire chapter with the working title, “Like Gramsci’s Ghost...,” an obvious play on the recurring ghost of Banquo from Shakespeare’s Macbeth. Gramsci never lived to witness the success of his memes and their destructive power. But he would have nodded his ghostly head in warm approval of how far his ideas and his methods have brought us to the edge of our own civilization’s destruction.

It’s coming together slowly. Btu it’s getting there. How it will be received - who knows? I’m not a scholar, per se, just an observer.


144 posted on 06/30/2010 3:58:22 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: DuncanWaring

Oakland riot bumpage...

It’s 0bama’s America at its finest.


145 posted on 07/08/2010 3:28:41 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Lurker
The corollary of the will to power is the desire to submit.

"He [Albert Camus] had noticed a modern impulse to rebel, which had come out of the French Revolution and the nineteenth century and had very quickly, in the name of an ideal, mutated into a cult of death. And the ideal was always the same, though each movement gave it a different name. It was not skepticism and doubt. It was the ideal of submission."
Paul Berman - Terror and Liberalism p46

And thus, the tyranny of the weak...

146 posted on 07/10/2010 10:34:40 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon
The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.— Robert A. Heinlein

I'd go one step further than Heinlein and agree with Camus I think. There is a large percentage of the human population who simply want to be told what and what not to do. They're a real danger. Because as we all know there's another sub-set of humanity that is very, very willing to step into the role of Controller.

147 posted on 07/10/2010 11:53:03 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
I've just completed a re-read of Jamie Glazov's United in Hate: The Left's Romance with Tyranny and Terror, and the first few chapters, particularly the first three chapters, are still resonating strongly in my mind. Those who have linked their entire raison d'etre to the doctrines of the Left - the implicit hatred of humankind, the immanentist view of history that demands the destruction of everything ("burn the old world to reveal the new one," as one anarchist protesters sign read) have been willing to surrender their own lives as well. It's the final destination of those whose personal failures have left them only with a desire to submerge themselves in the totalist whole, surrendering their individuality - and ultimately their lives - to that utopian dream. Which those of us who have even the remotest conenction with reality understand that is a monstrous and evil nightmare.

So, the Will to Power can only succeed when there are enough useful idiots willing to surrender themselves to it. And too few willing to resist it. Otherwise, the monsters have no chance.

148 posted on 07/12/2010 4:20:20 PM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Travis McGee
Eight to ten years in the future, from 2002.....not much time left?

No, not much time left.

CA....

149 posted on 07/12/2010 10:32:16 PM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! Seems I've found that silly grin again!)
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To: Conservative4Life

Excellent


150 posted on 07/12/2010 10:54:25 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (Those who don't learn from the past are condemned to repeat it. Elections have consequences.)
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