Posted on 05/07/2010 2:13:19 PM PDT by Noumenon
Sunstein’s an architect, but the call to let the hammer drop won’t be his. The onlt cost-benefit anaylsis these monsters care about concerns who is left to rule from atop a heap of rubble and corpses.
A new feudalism (or worse) and a world lit only by fire will suit them just fine as long as they they think that they will be the ones in the high castle. Most of us dead. The rest of us in chains. That’s their cost-benefit analysis.
Oh Lord, I do NOT want to ever see that.
I think that one of our strengths now is the ability to consider the unthinkable.
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Precisely. That's exactly what we need to do. And to prepare acccordingly.
Finally got off my backside today and went down and joined up at the local club with a 500 metre range.
Time to practice.
I trust you’ve had a chance to read Dr. Peck’s book ... there really is evil in the world and it resides in and acts through people, because it is a spiritual disease and only humans—on this planet—have a spirit in their soul of life.
I read most of it. Not every page.
He’s quite right, of course.
Sunstein’s an architect, but the call to let the hammer drop won’t be his. The onlt cost-benefit anaylsis these monsters care about concerns who is left to rule from atop a heap of rubble and corpses.
A new feudalism (or worse) and a world lit only by fire will suit them just fine as long as they they think that they will be the ones in the high castle. Most of us dead. The rest of us in chains. That’s their cost-benefit analysis.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
And they think their city sized lavish bunkers will insure such.
God has some surprises in store for those bunkers.
The mindset Sunstein ascribes to has stated that the planet should have no more than 1 billion people, preferrably less. The impulse driving these abstards is demonic in origin. But they absolutely believe they are kindness personified, only concerne3d about saving the planet. They are evil incarnate ... mister evil has no human body, so humans have to give themselves over to his use, as this bunch of evil-serving bastards are doing.
They are all driven by that insatiable will to power, that unappeasable appetite to control and enslave mankind. They are monsters, all of them. Monsters.
I believe that you are correct, and that much of this is going on already. I believe that it was well understood that one (or both) houses would be sure to lose the Democrat majority during this November's election cycle. (Not that anyone should expect any miraculous level of "corrective action" should (RINO) Republicans gain control. Elect enough Constitutional Conservatives, that is a different story!)
If anyone looks at the recent activity of any/all of the extra-Constitutional federal agencies (that have been created and expanded by both (R) and (D) administrations), you can see a beehive of activity focused on eliminating/diminishing our Liberties and Freedom, and ramping up the levels and force of tyranny. I refer to the FTC, FCC, EPA, etc. Much of the activity of these groups has been posted about here on FR (but sadly not many other places). These unaccountable bureaucrats in these agencies are working overtime to destroy this country. What is even worse in many cases, these entities have their own administrative judicial arms and courts that are defined to be the only relevant jurisdiction for grievances and appeals. What regime needs the Legislative and Judicial branches to continually toe the line when they can effectively rule by agency fiat?
None of this is new, been going on for far to long, but it looks like the pace is picking up rapidly. And for the most part, none of this activity is ever widely publicized until it is too late. At most, the state controlled media will make a brief mention of larger activity, and of course it is always spun in glowing terms describing how much better off we will all be once these "new rules" crack down on the {fill in the targeted villain}.
Thanks for your kind words. Brilliant? I dunno. I’m just trying to get people to understand the nature of those who would rule us, ultimately murder and enslave us, and the pedigree of their ideas.
The history of the twentieth century has been one of mass murder, atrocity, enslavement and impoverishment on a scale that beggars the imagination. So I pose the questions:
How can you make sense of all this killing and misery?
How can you begin to comprehend the mindset that celebrates and wallows in atrocity?
How can you wrap your mind around the murderous cruelty of Islam and totalitarian collectivism and the fascination that it has for so many?
How can you prevent that from happening here?
Adn what are you willing to do to prevent it?
Tough questions. Hard answers.
As you point out here and in your main article, that will to power is insatiable. I will acknowledge that I have been very naive in my understanding and acceptance of this fact, considering that I am in my early 50s and am just waking up to these realities. I struggled for quite some time trying to understand how any man could have this level of evil desire. I was mistaken in that I assumed that "everyone was like everyone else," in that if I couldn't find it within myself to even comprehend that level of desire for control and power, I couldn't see how anyone else could.
As a more concrete example, since I was a child I could never conceive of how any man could feel comfortable owning another man as a slave, as property. I knew that it had happened very often since the beginning of recorded history, and unfortunately continues to the present. But I guess that I took an ignorant view that led me to believe that it must be more of a societal or cultural ill, i.e., the slave-owners only held slaves since that is what the larger society deemed as lawful/proper. In my ignorance I chose to blame the "larger whole" for the corruption of the individual, rather than assign the blame directly to the individual. Why? I don't know. Perhaps it was just a naive way of avoiding the ugly fact that some men are indeed evil? Maybe it was because I didn't want to believe that it could also be true for me if it was true for others, since I was operating under that mistaken belief that we were indeed "all alike" at the core.
I mistakenly assumed that the primary motivation of the evil I saw around me was purely (material) greed. In my ignorant model it did go a fair distance in explaining the results of what I saw around me. I also mistakenly assumed that their was some finite level for that (material) greed that would eventually be sated, at least enough to stop the drive for total destruction and domination. Perhaps there is for some, or even many? I don't know. But the key point that I have been missing, is that there is another drive, the purely evil lust for domination and control. I am not exactly sure why (since I haven't had enough time to both think it through and more properly educate myself), but my gut sense tells me that this drive is far stronger (than greed for the material) in those that are under its evil spell, and that it is one that is less easily (if ever) sated by incremental gain. It appears to be the one that is totally insatiable in the worst cases of afflication.
I believe that your article is brilliant in its clarity and directness. You explained a lot, very succinctly.
My last reply explains my trouble (that I am finally overcoming) in answering these questions.
To your last 2 questions:
- for me, I am in the process of educating myself so that I can be of some use in educating others around me. I have a lot of learning to do (and not a lot of time) so I am working double-time on that.
- I am in the process of steeling my resolve and completely internalizing the facts that I am finally coming to grips with. In short, I am finally beginning to understand the meaning (including its ultimate beautiful truth and absolute relevance to the present) of:
"It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
-- Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775
The brutality of man is an age-old story. But of late, we have become disconnected from it here in America. Our pampered existence has led us into a virtual Disneyland of disbelief. But who can blame people for not wanting to belive this stuf?/ Who wants to?
Moreover, most of us don't think in terms of the pursuit of power over others. As I said in the essay, for some, absolute power is more compelling, more addictive than any drug. We can't understand that mindset because we just don't operate that way. Our moreal and ethical sensibilites are anchored in our belief in, and personal relationship with our Creator. Ujnlike the power -lusters, we have a moral compass. They don't. And they despise those of us who do. Think about it: all of the current cultural rage against and sneering at those they label 'goody two-shoes. Men of honor and simple human dignity are the sneering punch lines to liberal party jokes.
"Freedom is not synonymous with an easy life. ... There are many difficult things about freedom: It does not give you safety, it creates moral dilemmas for you; it requires self-discipline; it imposes great responsibilities; but such is the nature of Man and in such consists his glory and salvation."
Never give up.
NB - I omitted the proper attribution to the quote in 116 - it was Margaret Thatcher.
Absolutely. I have to say that I had been a bit "stunned" by the reaction of almost all of my contemporaries (i.e., folks born in the late 40s or 50s) when I try to engage them in any conversations of substance on topics such as these (including the state of the economy, political realities, or history). I have given much thought to the "why" aspect of it, considering the apparent level of "intellect" and/or education and the overall "successful" stations in life that these people have reached. It is clear to me that the overall level of comfort and affluence that our country has enjoyed for decades has created a very self-absorbed and utterly complacent populace.
The TRUTH is too distasteful, difficult, and "upsetting" to comprehend. It is also too "large," in that we aren't talking about a few policies that may need to adjusted, or a few laws that need review and modification. It also seems "so un-American" to many because a great deal of our population (especially anyone 50 and upward) just can't accept the fact that this can ever happen in America. We have been falsely indoctrinated to believe that the government could never be "that bad" and will always "be there to protect us" in the end. These are the people that should have enough knowledge and understanding to know better. People in their 40s and upward should have been exposed to a bit more of the "truth" of our history and should have been less indoctrinated than those that are younger. But our culture and overall comfort have softened these abilities that should be present.
Younger people have a different sort of problem in coming to grips with this. As a whole, people in their 30s and younger that have been fully indoctrinated in government schools have less of the actual facts available (unless they actively seek it out now) and far less comprehension and processing skills (by design). Also working against them is the fact of their youth, i.e., what person just starting out in their adult life (still hoping at some point to marry, have a family of their own, and "prosper" to some degree, at least at some point) wants to face the dark reality of this TRUTH? It is very easy to understand why the LIE is so appealing, for it falsely offers them "everything" at no cost.
Because of the above, amongst other factors not mentioned, it is a struggle of immense proportions to gain an open mind from our populace as a whole. I certainly don't intend to be overly pessimistic or "gloomy" here, just attempting to speak truthfully. If we are to be effective to any useful degree, these are the facts that we must accept. And above all, fully embrace your closing comment:
Never give up.
Now, Quigley's best characterized as an authoritarian paternalist, but his reading of history and cultures is breathtaking. He is mostly correct, aside from his over-the-top hatred for this country's 'right wing'. And that doesn't really emerge until he gets to the end of his historical journey. Combine what you now know with his observations and, well... You won't look at things the same way.
As for the youth of today. A lot of them won't even understand what's happening to them - even while it's hapepning. They'll die stupid and afraid. You mentioned, what person just starting out in their adult life (still hoping at some point to marry, have a family of their own, and "prosper" to some degree, at least at some point)... The problem is for many young people, even these aspirations are lost to them. Marriage? Family? Again, sneering punch lines to filthy liberal party jokes. Or an episode of Family Guy if you can stand to watch one. It's an education, believe me. With what does one fill a shrieking moral void? I think we know.
But we should all take hope from the fact that homeschooling and concerned parents are turning out alive, alert and aware young people. They are the hope of the restored Republic.
Hayek’s Road to Serfdom postulates that when government gets too much power (regardless of intention for good or ill), it is eventually taken over by the most ruthless.
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