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New Alarm Bells About Chemicals and Cancer
NY Times ^ | May 6, 2010 | NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

Posted on 05/09/2010 5:50:48 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: editor-surveyor

About 5% of the sodium in your body is included in your cellular structure.


81 posted on 05/10/2010 2:58:44 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: neverdem

I read a quote in the local metro paper... they said that while the causality wasn’t definitely linked, the gov’t should still act.

Oookaaaaaaaaaayyyy....


82 posted on 05/10/2010 3:13:44 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: dangerdoc
Do you ban a substance that may save lives such as clorinated water. A small amount of organochlorines is produced which may produce a 1/1,000,000 lifetime risk of cancer but has saved millions of lives since its introduction?

Completely agree. I think the fundamental problem is that most people don't have - and never learn - a sense of history period - let alone the massive benefits that modern practices have for the well being of society as a whole.

That creates a big hole in a place where a standard of comparison should have been in my opinion.

It is really a shame that epidemiology is not tought to the vast majority of students.

If not true epidemioligy, basics of risk (and statistics) at least. Not to mention basic cost benefit analysis. Ethics will have to be addressed, but the current approach of assessing only the risks and not the benefits is a very serious problem as you very correctly point out.

83 posted on 05/10/2010 5:28:58 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: editor-surveyor
Nothing about polyps is any more “pre-cancerous” than any other part of the intestine. Polyps are the result of prolonged cronic high blood sugar, just like skin tags, which are like polyps, annoying, but not indicative of cancer. Just a big money maker for dishonest doctors.

Prove it. Show me the peer-reviewd paper, the statistics, anything scientific. So all these doctors got together and decided to foist this huge conspiracy on the public. Not only does the conspiracy span every specialist and GP but it spans generations of doctors of multiple specialties as well as medical researchers.

You, on the other hand, can be trusted to know the truth without having to demonstrate any data or research or credentials. And you preach this truth without hesitation and with utmost confidence while mocking anyone who disagrees, as if they belong to a minority of fools.

Very convincing.

84 posted on 05/10/2010 5:30:48 PM PDT by freedom_forge (http://libertyphysics.wordpress.com/)
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To: editor-surveyor
Prescription drugs are all un-natural and deadly

Does that include antibiotics? Seems that I have had opportunity personally and with loved ones where those were very useful in preventing death.

We are designed to consume only once-living substances

How about water? Last I checked - water wouldn't fit that bill...

If we ingest things that are not once living, we must destroy some of our own cells to deal with those substances.

Like water?

85 posted on 05/10/2010 5:37:53 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: hocndoc
In elemental form yes; but the Na+ ion (as it exists in NaCl) is not markedly electronegative...

Cheers!

86 posted on 05/10/2010 7:32:52 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: dfwgator; neverdem
Everything
Everything gives you cancer

Haven't you got the memo yet?

White mice cause cancer!

(They're the only factor in common in ALL of the experiments...)

Cheers!

87 posted on 05/10/2010 7:34:19 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: !1776!

Like to be facetious?

Bad habit if you ever expect to be taken seriously.

AFT antibiotics, you can make whatever unwarranted assumptions you wish, but you cannot produce any hard evidence to support them.

Thrush is for people that depend on antibiotics.
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88 posted on 05/10/2010 8:35:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: freedom_forge

Great line of BS, but Doctors for the most part are well aware of the facts that I presented, and use them in their diagnostic analysis all the time. I first became aware of it from a paper by Dr. William Campbell Douglas.

The chief cause of colon cancer is excessive iron, usually caused by eating improperly slaughtered beef. Up until the ‘60s beef was slaughtered by cutting their throat, which allowed the blood to drain fairly completely, but presently they are simply thumped on the head by a pnuematic hammer, which allowes most of the blood to remain in the carcass, thus blood consumption by beef eaters is five or six times higher, resulting in that much more iron in the diet.
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89 posted on 05/10/2010 8:44:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: grey_whiskers

“In elemental form yes; but the Na+ ion (as it exists in NaCl) is not markedly electronegative...”

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Let’s hope not!

(have you been having too much ‘Cheer?’) ;o)


90 posted on 05/10/2010 8:47:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: dangerdoc

No, not in the structure, but in the electrolyte that is spread through the body. Less than 0.5% of the sodium is cellular.


91 posted on 05/10/2010 8:51:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Osage Orange

“Where are you getting your numbers?”

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What numbers are you speaking of?
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92 posted on 05/10/2010 8:54:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
No, too *little*.

But I can go fix that right now.

Cheers!

93 posted on 05/10/2010 8:57:26 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: editor-surveyor

You’re making serious mistakes. What is your science background. Surely it’s not the one book.
Take a look at the junkscience.com site.


94 posted on 05/10/2010 9:00:24 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIA)
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To: ColdWater

“DDT”

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Has it ever occured to you that DDT may have been banned BECAUSE it saves lives? (without any other provable effect; the pellicans were thinned out by the ‘environmentalists’ that invaded their breeding grounds in the late ‘60s and destroyed their eggs)
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95 posted on 05/10/2010 9:07:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Up until the ‘60s beef was slaughtered by cutting their throat, which allowed the blood to drain fairly completely, but presently they are simply thumped on the head by a pnuematic hammer, which allowes most of the blood to remain in the carcass, thus blood consumption by beef eaters is five or six times higher, resulting in that much more iron in the diet.

Utter rubbish. Cows (and pigs for that matter) are stunned and bled out. They actually die from the exsanguination.

You don't know what you're talking about.

96 posted on 05/10/2010 9:17:46 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: hocndoc

I grew up the eldest son of a hospital dietitian that spent her life trying to educate doctors on human nutrition, mostly to no avail because they recognized that real healing meant loss of return patients.

Its been drummed into my head too long to just let the mendacious dissuade me. It has worked for me and my family. I’m 65 years old and never had any serious illness. I’ve been to a doctor six times; five of them for employment physicals, and once for an injury when I crashed a dunebuggy and my friends dragged me, kicking and screaming, to a hospital. (once there I wouldn’t let them do anything but one x-ray)


97 posted on 05/10/2010 9:17:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: neverdem
“and declare: chemicals threaten our bodies”

Chemicals are very bad for our health. One of the worst is dihydrogen monoxide.
They are finding it everywhere. Most human and animal tissue and blood samples are now showing high levels of it.
Organic food is not immune either; and are showing high levels of it.
It has even been found in baby food.
It has many uses; in pesticide production and distribution and many other things.

People really need to wake up and do their research.

98 posted on 05/10/2010 9:18:21 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Chairman Mao was a community organizer)
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To: facedown

Sorry, but they are cold and stiff before they are cut, and little blood is ever drained. The hammer does the job.


99 posted on 05/10/2010 9:19:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Its ok, Obama is going to send all of our dihydrogen monoxide to China to pay our national debt.


100 posted on 05/10/2010 9:22:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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