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My wife wants a handgun but......[Vanity]
May 21, 2010 | B.E. Radtke

Posted on 05/21/2010 3:39:37 PM PDT by bjorn14

I was having breakfast on the terrace with my wife the other day and out of the blue she says to me "I think I want a handgun but I don't want it to be able to kill someone"

My first thought was "What's the point?"

Well alot of back and forth discussion, so any suggestions/comments/advice?


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KEYWORDS: banglist; handguns
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To: Dan Nunn

Most hit men and assassins use a .22 pistol.


41 posted on 05/21/2010 3:50:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: bjorn14
Or better yet, find an article where someone survived being shot with a .44 mag (if you can), show it to your wife and suggest she might want that one, since the person survived.

/johnny

42 posted on 05/21/2010 3:50:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bjorn14

43 posted on 05/21/2010 3:50:43 PM PDT by fso301
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To: bjorn14

Starter pistol.


44 posted on 05/21/2010 3:51:01 PM PDT by Taxbilly
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To: bjorn14

If you have kids, just ask her what she would do if some psycho were after them and all she had was the gun... if no kids, then postulate about a rapist in the neighborhood and how killing him with the gun would seriously stop him.

IMO, it’s the ‘nurture’ aspect of the woman that’s kicking in when she says that; presenting the children scenario puts that nature toward the correct usage of the gun.

{IE frame it in more of an emotional context so she can understand.}


45 posted on 05/21/2010 3:51:25 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: bjorn14
Target shooting is a great family sport. Stay away from the self defense aspects and just enjoy spending time with her.
46 posted on 05/21/2010 3:51:29 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: bjorn14

did you ask her why she wants it then? If its not to kill, then is it because she’s afraid? Has your neighborhood changed?

Women don’t usually decide they want a gun just because it would be a nice accessory. So do a little digging.

If you both decide she should get one, Smith & Wesson makes a nice .38 Stainless Steel ‘Airweight’. Small, so it fits a woman’s smaller hand, no buttons to push or levers to move around. You pull the trigger and it kills the thing you pointed at.


47 posted on 05/21/2010 3:52:03 PM PDT by oldmomster
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To: Taxbilly

Beat you by 2 minutes.


48 posted on 05/21/2010 3:52:17 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: happyathome

Get her a rifle so she can do this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iqYznDU1gY


49 posted on 05/21/2010 3:52:48 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Dan Nunn

” Not to kill? Get her a .22! “

A few years ago, FNC had a story (and ran the film clip an average of 4 times/hr for three straight days) about a disgruntled client (?) accosting a lawyer outside of a California courthouse - and shooting him multiple times (7 hits, if memory serves) without major permanent damage....

You *can* kill with a .22, but you have to be very good, or very lucky.....


50 posted on 05/21/2010 3:52:58 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL luv ya Johnny


51 posted on 05/21/2010 3:53:07 PM PDT by Neets
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To: freedumb2003

“She needs to know that shooting to hurt just doesn’t work.”

I know nothing about firearms. But what is the empirical basis for your claim? I thought law enforcement officers, in particular, were trained to shoot to disable, rather than kill, their targets. Presumably the risk of killing is always present, and this risk should not inhibit expeditious use of the firearm when warranted. But all other things being equal, is a dead assailant truly better than an effectively disabled one? Not trying to be combative: I seriously want to understand how one would arrive at this conclusion.

All of which is to say, IF one can be effectively trained to reliably disable a threat, I can understand the woman’s preferring a weapon that accomplishes that task over a weapon that dispenses with this possibility entirely in favor of tipping the odds of an encounter becoming lethal.

As a possibly less emotionally charged example, some people may well prefer a “catch and release” approach to dealing with a beaver that is creating havoc in a residential neighborhood over the alternative of killing the critter etc. So long as the trapped beaver can be released into an area sufficiently wild and remote to preclude its return to the neighborhood in question, it’s not obvious why killing it is the preferred approach.


52 posted on 05/21/2010 3:54:20 PM PDT by DrC
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To: bjorn14

Imho, more discussion is needed.


53 posted on 05/21/2010 3:54:31 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

>>Get the handgun, replace the wife. But my advice may not be the best. I’ve been married at least 3 times that I know of.

/johnny <<

You clearly aren’t getting the right kind of gun...


54 posted on 05/21/2010 3:54:43 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The frog who accepts a ride from a scorpion should expect a sting and the phrase "it is my nature.")
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To: bjorn14

Get her to go to a shooting range. Tell her to target certain areas on a body that won’t kill but will surely stop someone in their tracks ; )


55 posted on 05/21/2010 3:55:04 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Promoted by God to be a mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................Thanks, Susan!)
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To: bjorn14

Don’t bother. IMO, if she’s not willing to save her own life by killing the predator, she shouldn’t have a gun. He’ll only wrest it out of her hands and use it to kill her.


56 posted on 05/21/2010 3:55:44 PM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: bjorn14

your going about it the wrong way, She has just given you permission to buy her the gun you alwas wanted. then if she is not happy with it you could tack it over just to be nice.


57 posted on 05/21/2010 3:56:26 PM PDT by 20yearvet (they yell for more tests as long as its your money)
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To: bjorn14
I want a handgun but I don’t want it to be able to kill someone”

Sorry, I'm missing something here. She wants a gun that won't kill someone?

Maybe a Red Ryder BB gun is what she needs. Just instruct her not to aim at the eyes.

FMCDH(BITS)

58 posted on 05/21/2010 3:56:30 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: DrC
IF one can be effectively trained to reliably disable a threat...

Key word is reliably.
59 posted on 05/21/2010 3:56:31 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Obama is a victim of Affirmative Action)
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To: bjorn14

He wore in his belt an old original “Allen” revolver, such as irreverent people called a “pepper-box.” Simply drawing the trigger back, cocked and fired the pistol. As the trigger came back, the hammer would begin to rise and the barrel to turn over, and presently down would drop the hammer, and away would speed the ball. To aim along the turning barrel and hit the thing aimed at was a feat which was probably never done with an “Allen” in the world. But George’s was a reliable weapon, nevertheless, because, as one of the stage-drivers afterward said, “If she didn’t get what she went after, she would fetch something else.” And so she did. She went after a deuce of spades nailed against a tree, once, and fetched a mule standing about thirty yards to the left of it. Bemis did not want the mule; but the owner came out with a double-barreled shotgun and persuaded him to buy it, anyhow. It was a cheerful weapon—the “Allen.” Sometimes all its six barrels would go off at once, and then there was no safe place in all the region round about, but behind it.

Mark Twain
Roughing It


60 posted on 05/21/2010 3:56:35 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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