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Fail! Top kill can't stop BP's devil
NY Post ^ | May 30, 2010 | LUKAS I. ALPERT

Posted on 05/30/2010 3:50:11 AM PDT by Scanian

On to Plan Z.

Efforts to stop the massive oil leak beneath the Gulf of Mexico were stymied once again yesterday after the much-hoped-for "Top Kill" fix failed -- sending officials scrambling back to the drawing board.

"This scares everybody, the fact that we can't make this well stop flowing," BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said on the 40th day of the leak that has already spilled as much as 40 million gallons of oil into the Gulf.

The combined "Top Kill" and "Junk Shot" effort -- which involved pumping heavy drilling mud and debris like golf balls and rubber tires to gum up the pipes of the fractured well -- began Wednesday, and officials had held out high hopes that it would stop the stubborn spill.

They said it would take up to 48 hours to know if they had made any headway, but while they funneled as much as 2,700 gallons of mud into the well per minute, it was unclear how much was staying inside.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: containment; gulfspill; junkshot; reliefwell
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1 posted on 05/30/2010 3:50:12 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
Erkel goes to the Beach...


2 posted on 05/30/2010 4:00:31 AM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: Scanian

....my gut feeling is that they’re not going to be able to plug it....maybe a second well will relieve the pressure.


3 posted on 05/30/2010 4:03:49 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: RaceBannon
Yep...the big gamble to go there the day before they thought it would be stopped...the big gamble to do the speech/press conference...the big gamble to tell the "will you plug the hole daddy?" story...

The Big gamble did not pay off. He saw a 70% chance of success and jumped at the chance to be a hero...but...oooops.

Now its back to the drawing board.

4 posted on 05/30/2010 4:07:54 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Scanian

It’s almost like BP is trying to destroy support for deep-water oil drilling.


5 posted on 05/30/2010 4:10:45 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Almost?

1) Pres_ _ent Obama gets $$$$$ from BP ............. check
"Obama biggest recipient of BP cash
BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million
to federal …with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama"

"Obama White House and British Petroleum (BP), which pumped $71,000 into Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign
are covering up the magnitude of the volcanic-level oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico"


2) The secret reasons for the $$$$$ to Obama ............. check
BP oil leak: Fallen Deepwater Horizon was tapping second largest oil deposit in the world
If there is a single aspect to the dangers of the BP oil leak,
it lies in the question CEO Tony Hayward and other BP executives
have been avoiding since the first drop of oil went rogue: How much oil is leaking?
The real answer is - more than anyone wants to admit,
because the well holds enough oil to make Saudi Arabian drillers jealous."


3) Pres_ _ent Obama exempts BP from normal requirements ......... check

Gulf oil spill: BP has a long record of legal, ethical violations
…. the London-based company has a penchant for putting profits ahead of just about everything else.
Over the past two decades, BP subsidiaries have been convicted three times of
environmental crimes in Alaska and Texas, including two felonies. It remains on
probation for two of them. "

Federal Regulator Repeatedly Failed to Inspect Deepwater Horizon - Including for... Obama Presidency
ABC News has learned that in the 16 months from January 2009 through April 2010
MMS failed to inspect Deepwater Horizon four times - in May 2009, August 2009, December 2009, and January 2010."

"U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study"

"Obama admin exempted BP's Gulf drilling from environmental impact study "

"Obama sheltered BP's Deepwater Horizon rig from regulatory requirement"

"Red Flags Were Ignored Aboard Doomed Rig "

"US allowed drilling 'without required permits"

"U.S. Said to Allow Drilling Without Needed Permits
The federal Minerals Management Service gave permission to BP …
to drill in the Gulf of Mexico without first getting required permits "


4) Pres_ _ent Obama creates a dangerous, negligent environment ......... check
BP reports warning signs before gulf oil rig explosion"

"Heated Argument on Rig Hours Before Blast ( Deepwater Horizon oil spill )
Mr. Brown said Transocean's crew leaders-including the rig operator's top manager,
Jimmy W. Harrell-strongly objected to a decision by BP's top representative, or
"company man," over how to start removing heavy drilling fluid and replacing it with
lighter seawater from a riser pipe connected to the well head. Such pipes act as conduits
between the rig and the wellhead at the ocean floor, and carry drilling fluid in and out of the well."

"Workers on doomed BP oil rig: Corners were cut to save money
Two workers injured when an oil rig exploded in the Gulf of Mexico told Congress on
Thursday that the companies in charge of the doomed drilling operation cut corners and
neglected maintenance in a race toward higher profits.
MMS official Jason Mathews, one of the panelists who questioned Harrell, noted that the
project was several weeks behind schedule, a delay that had cost more than $20 million at
a daily rate of $525,000."

"BP Used Riskier Method to Seal Oil Well Before Blast
Several days before the explosion on the Deepwater Horizon oil rig, BP officials chose,
partly for financial reasons, to use a type of casing for the well that the company knew
was the riskier of two options, according to a BP document.
BP's decision was "without a doubt a riskier way to go," said Greg McCormack,
director of the Petroleum Extension Service at the University of Texas at Austin"

"U.S. oil drilling regulator ignored experts' red flags on environmental risks
Minerals Management Service officials, who can receive cash bonuses in the thousands
of dollars based in large part on meeting federal deadlines for leasing offshore oil and gas
exploration, frequently changed documents and bypassed legal requirements aimed at
protecting the marine environment, the documents show."


5) Pres_ _ent Obama, BP, and the DNC begin the obstruction ......... check
"There Was 'Nobody in Charge' (Deepwater Horizon Explosion and Fire)
In the minutes after a cascade of gas explosions crippled the Deepwater Horizon on April 20,
....Andrea Fleytas, a 23-year-old worker who helped operate the rig's sophisticated navigation machinery,
suddenly noticed a glaring oversight: No one had issued a distress signal to the outside world,
she recalls in an interview. Ms. Fleytas grabbed the radio and began calling over a signal monitored by the Coast Guard and other vessels.
"Mayday, Mayday. This is Deepwater Horizon. We have an uncontrollable fire."
When Capt. Kuchta realized what she had done, he reprimanded her, she says.
"I didn't give you authority to do that," he said, according to Ms. Fleytas, who says she responded: "I'm sorry."

"McCarthy: Obama hasn't returned call of lawmaker representing district of rig!! "

"Obama sat on sand berm request 2 weeks, still no reply"

"Frustration over sand barriers boils in Louisiana as federal government offers few answers"


6) Pres_ _ent Obama and the DNC begin the coverup ......... check
"Parish official: BP shipped in workers for president's visit
Roberts said the workers were offered $12 an hour to come out to the scene at Grand Isle and work.
But, when Obama departed, so did the workers, he said."

"Oil Spill - CBS Threatened With Arrest For Filming The Oil Spill (Coast Guard: "This Is BP's Rules."

"Lab Chosen To Test Oil Spill Water & Animal Samples Has Ties To BP
In addition to this potential conflict of interest, federal officials have mandated that BP
gets to hire the companies that collect data as part of efforts to rescue wildlife covered with oil."

President Delays Oil Spill Recovery Efforts For San Francisco Fundraiser With Getty Oil Heirs"


7) The REAL DEAL: Pres_ _ent Obama displays utter incompetance (again) ......... check
"Louisianans take oil cleanup in own hands as frustration mounts."

"Worst Press Conference Since " I Am Not A Crook"
It's hard to imagine a Republican president getting away with the weasel words offered
today by Barack Obama. The President couldn't determine if MMS head Elizabeth
Birnbaum was fired or she resigned. Even the Obama bread carriers at CBS were skeptical:
Elizabeth Birnbaum's departure was first reported as a "firing." Later, a "resignation."
When asked for clarity, President Obama told the press corps today he had no idea."

"President Obama Returns to LA to Assess the Oil Crisis
Prepare for another impact from the deep water Horizon accident: higher energy prices.
It`s not the rupture of the well itself that`s going to influence prices, but a six-month
extension of the moratorium on new deep water drilling projects declared yesterday by
the Obama administration. Bernstein Research predicts if the moratorium continues
for a year, it would cut global oil supplies by 500,000 barrels a day between 2013
and 2017. …The Bernstein report expects new regulations to add about 10 percent
to the price tag of offshore production. U.S. drillers will get hit first, but if the new
tougher regulations become the worldwide standard, then offshore drillers every."


8) The REAL DEAL: Pres_ _ent Obama destroys America (again) ......... check
"Analysis: Could U.S. Lose 200 Rigs by the End of Summer?
The Philadelphia Oil Service Sector index, commonly known by its ticker OSX, is based
on the stock market movements of 15 oil service company components.

Most recently the OSX peaked on April 23rd at 228.22, the day after the Deepwater
Horizon sank. Subsequently, the index has fallen 20% as both the broader markets have
been roiled by European concerns and the oil prices have begun to re-couple with
fundamentals (i.e. excess inventory levels). Crude oil has fallen 14% in recent weeks.
If the recent fall of the OSX and commodities foreshadows a similar move in the US rig
count, then a pullback to 1300 rigs or a 15% decline from current level of 1518 rigs
would not be a huge surprise. Of the 200 rigs that would be sidelined, a split of 45% oil
and 55% gas rigs removed from the count seems plausible."


6 posted on 05/30/2010 4:13:08 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States Â… shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: STONEWALLS

I THINK
the next plan to lower that thingamajiggy onto the top of it might slow it down a LOT!
It will still leak, but I think not as much.

From what I’ve read, the relief well is the only way to be sure.


7 posted on 05/30/2010 4:13:13 AM PDT by a real Sheila (Just my 2 cents!)
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To: Scanian

Can someone, in the know about pumping, tell me why a number of large hoses can not be maneuvered to the gushing hole and start sucking the oil as it comes from the hole?

I know, 5000 feet is quite a lift, but they obviously do it from working wells.


8 posted on 05/30/2010 4:17:43 AM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Scanian

First mistake was putting out the fire. Should have let it burn off as much as possible until they figured out how to stop the leak.


9 posted on 05/30/2010 4:23:25 AM PDT by Clink (The more you complain, the longer God lets you live.)
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To: Scanian
Lord, what a tragedy, these people need our prayers.

How can obama even dare to crawl out from under his bed after this?!?

10 posted on 05/30/2010 4:32:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
From the AP article:"We're confident the job will work but obviously we can't guarantee success," Suttles said of the new plan, declining to handicap the likelihood it will work."

Really? If you are so confident...why didn't you take that approach 5 weeks ago?

11 posted on 05/30/2010 4:38:04 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Scanian
OBAMA's OIL-TRINA

(Good thing he's taking full responsibility for this fiasco, and won't rest until it's fixed, etc. etc.)


12 posted on 05/30/2010 4:42:17 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: AlexW
I know, 5000 feet is quite a lift, but they obviously do it from working wells.

I don't claim to speak as an expert on the subject...so I might be wrong...but I don't think they really have to pump it normally...the pressure it is under pushes it up.

But I have wondered if they could suck it up at the source...but that is a lot of weight to yank up from a mile. Won't even begin to try and figure out what kind of pump you would need to pull that much liquid straight up for a mile.

13 posted on 05/30/2010 4:42:46 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Scanian
There is so much about this that makes no sense at all.

First I can't believe that the oil companies are allowed to drill without a "PROVEN FAIL SAFE WAY TO STOP OIL FROM FLOWING FROM THE THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN" Boy Scouts "be Prepared" comes to mind.

I know they are drilling that far out because of the GREEN IDIOTS that would not allow it any closer to the beach. this will never be reported.

That same oil could be drilled from land. Yes that pool of oil goes through land. ECO WACKOS stopped that a long time ago.

A couple of weeks ago 60 MIN (yes I know they slant liberal) did a piece that showed without a doubt BP went hell bent for leather to get the oil pumping, ignoring many safety procedures, because the project was over budget and costing an extra $1M per day. Peanuts as to what this will wind up costing them.

Closing all existing wells will be catastrophic but I believe ZERO & CO will do just that. That will put many peolpe out of work and make us even more dependant on the middle east for our oil. Sorry ZERO Green can't even scratch the surface for our energy needs. Oil is it for quite a while.

14 posted on 05/30/2010 4:56:02 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Zero is trying to spend US out of a Recession-He is spending US into a major Depression)
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To: Diogenesis
Wow this is not a post this is a small novel, thank so much Diogenes,great stuff here.

What pisses me off is that BP is now giving the other drillers who really have a pretty good record,IMHO in the Gulf, a bad name as well. They are dragging the entire industry down,which we need really bad.

15 posted on 05/30/2010 5:01:50 AM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Voter#537

More of the Obama Administration’s ongoing incompetents / incompetence ....

Hillary must be licking her chops right now ....


16 posted on 05/30/2010 5:04:10 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Diogenesis
I think its very possible zero is playing this entire crisis to his evil ends.

If we lost rigs,if he bans new exploration, you could be looking at $200 oil in 4-5 years and he could escape the blame.

Already some reports indicate that in a few years we will be a half million barrels per day short just due to the recent halt on exploration.

This could play right into the Marxists hands since any chaos can be exploited by them and it all leads to bigger and more govt.

17 posted on 05/30/2010 5:06:18 AM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Scanian

What makes this such a difficult leak to stop is the mile of depth to the bottom and something around 8,000 to 9,000 psi (pounds per square inch) at the leak. “Leak” is not the right word because it implies a dribbling while the discharge is a blasting force under incredible pressure from deep inside the core of the Earth.


18 posted on 05/30/2010 5:12:32 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority (As Wichita falls so falls Wichita Falls)
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To: canuck_conservative

OBAMA’s OIL-TRINA

(Good thing he’s taking full responsibility for this fiasco, and won’t rest until it’s fixed, etc. etc.)

Naaaa, ‘cause he’s been on it since day 1....dontchaknow


19 posted on 05/30/2010 5:17:51 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (I ROCK, Guitar Hero said so........)
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To: Voter#537

and let’s not forget that there were some posts in regard to BP donating to the dems in the last election - to the tune of 800k and the well not using some kind of fail safe backup device that cost about 500k each.


20 posted on 05/30/2010 5:21:38 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (I ROCK, Guitar Hero said so........)
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