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Gun Confiscation in Shasta County? (CA)
shastadefense.com ^ | 28 May, 2010 | Nathan Zeliff, Esq

Posted on 05/31/2010 6:08:33 AM PDT by marktwain

Do you remember Hurricane Katrina? It was a massive natural disaster, and public officials gave orders to confiscate the firearms of law-abiding citizens. The order stated (per Deputy Police Chief Warren Riley) -“ No one will be able to be armed - we will take all the weapons”. House to house searches were conducted, including vehicle, and boat searches. Imagine hearing loud banging on your door as a swarm of heavily armed personnel invades your home. Their guns are drawn and they are pointing them directly at you. They are prepared to use deadly force against you, a law-abiding citizen. You are shocked, and can’t understand why you are being handcuffed, dragged out of your home, and the guns, which you have a right and duty to have as an American citizen, are confiscated. During Katrina, those who swore an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America, against all enemies, foreign and domestic”, violated the very oath they had sworn before God to uphold. During Katrina, National Guard, Sheriffs, Coast Guard, Active Duty Soldiers, and even undercover Special Forces were present. American Citizens were deprived of their God given Right and Duty of Self Defense, at gunpoint. Videos are on the Internet showing and reporting on the Gun Confiscations.

There is a newly released update on the Katrina Gun Confiscations, which you may not know about. Recently, May 2010, it has surfaced that there was at least ½ of a National Guard Company (during Katrina) who advised their commanding officers that if they were given orders to disarm citizens, they would refuse to follow such orders because they were unconstitutional.

So I ask you, if there were a massive disaster or civil unrest in Shasta County, man-made or otherwise, what would our governmental officials do? Have you asked your elected officials and those running for office what they would do if a state of “emergency” were declared in Shasta county? Well, it’s election time, and this is a very good time to find out. We need to know whether elected officials will actually follow the oath, which they will be swearing before God, to support and defend the U.S. Constitution, which includes your American Bill of Rights!

I presented specific questions to various political candidates, including those running for the Office of District Attorney for Shasta County. Do you want to know what they said?

First off, I didn’t ask the question “Do you support the 2nd Amendment”? Why? Because in today’s politically correct atmosphere any purported answer would be meaningless generalizations. Therefore, I asked pointed and specific questions. I also requested specific and direct answers.

Two of my questions (they are labeled “B” and “C”) are set forth below, as well as the responses and lack of response.

Question B dealt with the Purpose of 2nd Amendment and reads: “Do you recognize that the purpose of the Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms is to protect all of the rest of your American Bill of Rights (which are God given rights, pre-existing before government), and to make certain that in the event governments become tyrannical and oppressive, then, as a last resort, the entire population of armed citizens can take back their liberties by force of arms?"

For this question, the candidates were asked to specifically select from the following answer alternatives: “Yes, I recognize both purposes”, or “No, I don’t recognize both purposes”.

Jerry Benito’s Response to the question on the Purpose of the 2nd Amendment was: “Yes, I recognize both purposes. However, I believe historically the Individual Right to Bear Arms was grounded in the concept of "self-defense". Theoretically, question B's statements and the concept of “self-defense" could be viewed as consistent.”

Comment: Mr. Benito’s response shows that he took the time to think about the question, and also he provided a direct response.

Stephen Carlton’s Response to the question on the Purpose of the 2nd Amendment - non responsive:

Comment: Mr. Carlton wouldn’t provide a direct response to the actual question. Although I understood that a written response would be provided by Mr. Carlton, such was not done. An earlier correspondence merely obtained a generalized statement from Mr. Carlton that he believed in the “citizens’ rights to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution....”

Question C dealt with Gun Confiscation and reads:

“If an order were given (by any purported “authorized” civil or military authority, e.g., President, Governor, or otherwise, due to some type of “emergency” or otherwise) ordering that all firearms were to be confiscated from all residents of Shasta County (exempting only law enforcement and military), how would you advise local law enforcement (or any other officials seeking your legal viewpoint and for which you have authority to advise)?”

Again the candidates were asked to specifically state their view as to such an order, selecting between these two answer alternatives: “1. Proceed to confiscate the firearms;” or “ 2. The order is unlawful and in violation of the U. S. Constitution and you should refuse to obey it”.

Jerry Benito’s Response to the Gun Confiscation question was: “Again, more facts are needed to answer properly. However, I can't imagine a situation in which I could ever advise our law enforcement that it is appropriate to confiscate firearms from all residents in Shasta County. So, I would have to choose answer 2- that the order is unlawful and violates the Constitution.”

Comment: Again, Mr. Benito’s response shows that he took the time to think about the question, and also he provided a direct response.

Stephen Carlton’s Response to the Gun Confiscation question - non responsive:

Comment: Before submitting this article, I again called Mr. Carlton and advised him that I desired his response to these specific questions for this article. When I previously called Mr. Carlton, I understood that a written response would be provided. During my last conversation, Mr. Carlton stated that he “believes in the second amendment”, and words to the effect that the questions are not really applicable to the position he is running for, and that really that was all he had to say. Mr. Carlton had previously advised that he would not support conduct he “knew to be unconstitutional”.

Mr. Carlton again didn’t provide a direct response to the actual questions. His answers were evasive and non responsive. Further, if a county public official (e.g., police etc…) violates your legal and Constitutional rights, the District Attorney should be involved. The viewpoints of the District Attorney are relevant. Although Mr. Carlton advised he would not support conduct he “knew to be unconstitutional”, he refused to answer the actual question as to whether Katrina style gun confiscation would be unconstitutional. That was the point of the question.

In Closing: I will be honest with you, before conducting the above survey, I had read the political ads. I had visited the candidate’s websites and I was actually tending towards voting for Mr. Carlton. However, after spending substantial time and effort on this matter, and to receive boilerplate answers from Mr. Carlton, combined with his refusal to provide direct and responsive answers to these questions, was shocking. The responses only required that the applicable “box” be checked for your answer. When people who want our vote will not give a straight answer to a very clear question, then why would we vote for them? I am now changing my vote to Jerry Benito.

Ask those running for office to answer your specific questions with specific answers. And remember to elect into office only those who will actually follow the Oath they will be taking before God, to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America, against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” They are to represent American citizens, and to follow the United States Constitution. That is their job.

Nathan Zeliff is an authorized instructor for Concealed Weapon Permit Courses in Shasta and Tehama Counties; and is a Certified NRA Instructor in the following disciplines: Pistol, Rifle, and Personal Protection in the Home.

Website: www.ShastaDefense.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; ca; confiscaton; constitution; oathkeepers
Pointed questions for local candidates in Shasta County, California.
1 posted on 05/31/2010 6:08:34 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Here in Mississippi I had Military personnel admiring my weapons. I was encouraged to open carry and was told exactly what to do if I needed to do it. I guess we are adults and Patriots in Mississippi.

They did thank me for not shooting at them like a certain segment of the population did in Louisiana.

LLS

2 posted on 05/31/2010 6:13:24 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: marktwain
Was martial law declared after Katrina? How would it be legal for Deputy Police Chief Warren Riley to order search and seizure or for people to follow that order? Did the harassed citizens ever get their property back after it was seized?
3 posted on 05/31/2010 6:18:02 AM PDT by GBA (Resistance is Constitutional!)
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To: GBA

NO is a third world country. The most corrupt police and government this side of Mexico. And since they did it “for the common good” no need was felt to delcare martial law or follow the “Bill Of Rights”.


4 posted on 05/31/2010 6:29:52 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
There could not have been a more 'stark' contrast (to those who actually paid attention and looked at the facts) between the citizen response to Katrina between your state (add in Alabama to that) and Louisiana.

It was stunning to see, that is, when the SRM would show blips of what was happening in Mississippi & Alabama; how those citizens were actually 'cleaning up' and helping each other out. There was no continual whining and wringing of hands on camera; no screaming about racism. Those citizens did what had to be done and government functioned the way it was intended: not as a 'forceful' savior but a backup system to assist.

Those stories surfaced sporadically however; meanwhile, that was GW's blitzkreig as the national media kept airing those pathetic souls in LA, sitting on a bridge, waiting. GW should have used the states as examples but instead, we got 23.5/7 coverage of the state of Louisiana. Another fact barely mentioned was that the levees breached had been neglected continually, even though funds were allocated to maintain them and shore them up.

It's just heartwarming to focus only on the segment showing nothing but despair.

5 posted on 05/31/2010 6:42:28 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Blessed Is The Nation Whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: sasquatch

ping.


6 posted on 05/31/2010 6:46:37 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Don't go chasing waterfalls.....)
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To: Outlaw Woman

I remember Charlie Gibson and abc being forcefully expelled in East Biloxi, by angry citizens fed up with their lies. Charlie is lucky... we saw the propaganda for what it was. Now they worship “their” president and they still are nothing but a propaganda machine for the left.

LLS


7 posted on 05/31/2010 6:59:16 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: marktwain
Someone should ask these mealy-mouthed, answer-qualifying politicians”

“If an order were given to confiscate arms from the general public, do the victims of the confiscation have a right to open fire on those who are attempting to illegally confiscate their arms?” YES / NO (no qualification of answers allowed)

Maybe follow it up by:

“Do you believe that “arms” mentioned in the 2nd amendment covers NFA items? Explosives?”

Unless all 3 are answered “yes” then they only stand to hurt the 2nd amendment cause.

8 posted on 05/31/2010 7:08:41 AM PDT by Dayman (My 1919a4 is named Charlotte. When I light her up she has the voice of an angel.)
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To: marktwain

The Katrina gun confiscation disgrace is the primary reason I’ll NEVER support Gov. Jindal. He took absolutely NO action to prosecute the thugs involved. It should have been his FIRST job as governor.


9 posted on 05/31/2010 7:15:34 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Yorlik803
And since they did it “for the common good” no need was felt to delcare martial law or follow the “Bill Of Rights”.

That is just down right scary.....

I think I'll do an ammo inventory today.

10 posted on 05/31/2010 7:49:25 AM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: marktwain

I would rather die than take away what potentially is the only sure protection against criminals when there isn’t going to be a police response..

Applauding the righteousness of our troops, they bring a tear to my eye.


11 posted on 05/31/2010 7:52:31 AM PDT by dila813
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To: GBA

The Supreme Court ordered that all guns be returned to owners. The city got around it by requiring original bills of sales etc. making it impossible for most people to retrive their weapons. And those with all the necessary papers where told that they were unable to locate their weapons. The Police refused to give receipts to people as their weapons were being taken. No gang members had to recover their weapons as they never lost their weapons, this ‘theft’ of weapons was only for law abiding citizens!


12 posted on 05/31/2010 8:30:04 AM PDT by omegadawn
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To: GBA

The Supreme Court ordered that all guns be returned to owners. The city got around it by requiring original bills of sales etc. making it impossible for most people to retrive their weapons. And those with all the necessary papers where told that they were unable to locate their weapons. The Police refused to give receipts to people as their weapons were being taken. No gang members had to recover their weapons as they never lost their weapons, this ‘theft’ of weapons was only for law abiding citizens!


13 posted on 05/31/2010 8:31:48 AM PDT by omegadawn
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To: LibLieSlayer
I remember Charlie Gibson and abc being forcefully expelled in East Biloxi, by angry citizens fed up..

We didn't get the 'memo' or 'report' on that one! lol Now that would have been a priceless 'documentary'! Thanks for sharing...you guys in Mississippi showed how it should be done.

14 posted on 05/31/2010 8:46:32 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Blessed Is The Nation Whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Outlaw Woman

We try and we have a lot of practice at it.

LLS


15 posted on 05/31/2010 12:02:14 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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