Race Bannon
Bad Ass!
Posted on 06/07/2010 3:01:29 PM PDT by RaceBannon
Associated Press
AP Political Writer
June 7, 2010
HARTFORD, Conn.
Connecticut elections officials are investigating whether Weston businessman Peter Schiff violated state laws by using out-of-state workers to collect signatures to petition his way onto the Republican primary ballot for U.S. Senate.
In a complain obtained Monday by The Associated Press, James Bancroft, who said he was a founding member of the Hartford tea party group, claimed he was approached by a Schiff supporter outside a store in Newington last week and asked to sign a petition. Bancroft said he struck up a conversation with the worker, who said he was from Montana. Bancroft filed the complaint with the State Elections Enforcement Commission on Friday.
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Yea of course you fascists who want to force open expressions of homsexuality as being protected by the government are not like the Taliban at all.
The only liberty you believe in is what you decide. You dont respect the People’s “right to representation” on issues of our National Security, public behavior, the ‘right to association’, etc....
Well hopefully we will find a candidate who is excellent on all the issues.
So do you want to outlaw gays?
I’m not in favor of repealing DADT and feel we should leave it up to the military to decide.
I’m also in favor of allowing gay marriage to be voted on by the voters and if they want it, fine. If they dont want it, fine too.
But what are you proposing? We adopt laws like Iran and hang gays? How about we just shoot people we suspect of being gay?
Never going to happen.
You’re right. He’s a pro-abort, although the data that I saw didn’t indicate it. My apologies to you.
It’s also too bad. He’s one of the best economists out there. And while I won’t support someone who is morally OK with infanticide, he is probably correct in noting in the same interview that in any case, the situation isn’t going to change whether he is pro or anti.
Roe v Wade has been the law of the land since 1973, and while we’ve made some small progress in scaling it back, I don’t expect the legality to change in the forseeable future.
I am not for outlawing homosexuality but agree more along the lines of what you stated. I would leave the issue completely up to the moral majority to decide on how it is dealt with in the public.
I would have no problem leaving the issue up to the states barring any federal court from over-riding state law on the issue.
Of course Paul though made a statement claiming that homosexuality and heterosexuality as beahviors had to be treated equally. Of course much of the Paul movement seems to be claiming the same now. It is not a pro-liberty position though. From my perspective Paul and his movement have taken on still another left-wing position.
“So advocating that the murder of innocent life is acceptable if his preferred process is followed is a stand for ‘liberty’???”
Of course not. How is initiation of force against a innocent person (i.e. a fetus) consistent with liberty?
Answer: it isn’t. And this is where a lot (but by no means all) libertarians shoot themselves in the foot philosophically.
It is amazing how some could call someone who is ok with the murder of innocent human life a leader of a liberty movement.
That is exactly like shooting yourself in the foot to proclaim your right to walk.
Dont be so pessimistic. There are Good People out there.
The problem with Tea Parties,that people didn’t realize back in March or April 09, was how diverse the different kinds of people would be across the country who would be going to them and running as “Tea Party” Candidates. The problems that have arisen come from different groups being mislead into thinking they all had the same goals.
As such while everyone agrees that Obama’s policies are bad. The problems kick in when people do not agree in the solutions, some of the problems, and platforms of different “Tea Party” candidates.
Thus, right away the idea of a Tea Party might have been a bad idea, in this regards, because it seems the PaulBots who had been doing them prior to Obama, joined the ones in 2009. And as such amid the confusion of 2009, you had people who ran the range of right-wing politics involved in them. Conservatives, Republicans, Libertarians, and even some Democrats against Obama went to them.
The problem therefore is that both the Rinos and the Libertarians are trying to hijack Tea Parties. You have Carly Fiorina on one side being supported by Sarah Palin, while on the other PaulBots have tried to get Adam Kokesh, Debra Medina, and Peter Schiff elected as “Tea Party” Candidates.
And the problem as far as Libertarians and Conservatives go is that both DO NOT See EYE to EYE on many issues. Especially on National Defense and Foreign policy issues.
The PaulBots and Libertarian Republicans want to cut Defense and do not embrace a War on Terror. They want to bring Fiscal policy to the Army and Thus Ron Paul voted more liberals than even most liberals because he supported cutting Defense and thus voted against every Troop increase and funding the war on Terror and invading Iraq and Afghanistan and also is so far out there on these issues he is a Truther.
Thus Libertarians and Conservatives generally don’t agree on those issues. Then if you the fact Libertarians think that everything has to be regulated by the constitution that add another layer.
While Conservatives support the constitution and want it upholded. Libertarians tend to go to and extreme that basically says that even if I don’t agree with what you want to do or have done because I support the constitution I say the constitution grants you the power to do whatever it is you did.
So as such they are always evoking the constitution as a reason for not being able to impeach Obama or whatever.
Thus some PaulBot Libertarians and Libertarian Republicans try to pass themselves off as constitutionalists.
Therefore, my point is There are a host of issues where most Conservatives will not agree with Libertarians. Thus you had the whole mess with Glenn Beck because he plays both sides of the fence. He is the hybrid known as Libertarian Conservative. As such he has offended both sides at times by saying things one side or the other doesn’t like.
But back to my main point, thus the Tea Parties are a bit broken because different ideologies are at play. Mix in dis-effected Obama voters going to them. And you have this current state that we are in as it has become a challenge to agree on some candidates.
I agree.
But even though I get pretty harsh at times with the Paulbots or the libertarians —— I still would prefer that they were my only opposition.
The progressive movement has got to be defeated!!!!
The left-wing has to be defeated!!!!
True libertarians vs True conservatives.
That is the America that I long for.
Considering that Paulbots continually accuse everyone outside of their movement (including conservatives) of being un-Constitutional they should hardly complain when someone accuse them of breaking the rules as well.
Ron Paul had no problem voting to use the government to force our Armed Forces to have to accept open expressions of perversion towards a person of the same gender. The Paulbots want to use government to force their perverted morality on everyone.
Paulbots have no problem accusing America of being guilty and in defending the terrorists and dictators.
Paulbots have no problem defending the murder of innocent American life as well.
So go take your Paulbot tactics of attacking our liberties and join Obama and Code Pink and all the other perverts in your movement. If that isnt sad for you then wear it on your sleeve. At least we know who you are.
i find it sad that some of the people on this thread are willing to overlook the illegality of this situation in order to get schiff on the ballot
What was your Rudy-bot screen name here that got banned before you signed up again in September of '08?
that is dead right
and I am one of the fools who didnt do their homework
I was going to go along with the plan laid out last March to endorse Schiff and force all the smaller town tea parties in CT to go along with us
we were trying to drive the agenda instead of just respond to it
and I was part of it
i only woke up and did my homework when I found out Schiff was hooked up with kokesh
So, Sadly, I am part of the reason CT Tea Parties went for Schiff.
then you helped them break the law
you need to read more of the thread before asking questions like that
Your capitalization/grammar is awful.
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