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"The rig's on fire! I told you this was gonna happen!"
motherjones ^ | Mon Jun. 7, 2010 3:00 AM PDT | — By Josh Harkinson

Posted on 06/09/2010 2:46:44 PM PDT by dennisw

Edited on 06/09/2010 2:58:27 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: muawiyah

yeah which credible conspiracy site did you read all that on.

I can believe EPA and OSHA people are incompetent. I cannot believe they are so good they conspired to create a set of conditions they knew would cause a massive blowout.


101 posted on 06/09/2010 7:05:42 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Just takes a couple of people. I suspect Mr. Chuck Hamel knows how it can be done ~ he’s pretty experienced.


102 posted on 06/09/2010 7:09:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: valkyry1

Yes they did sink it. You never use water on a fire like that because it will sink, you lket it burn out on it’;s own or you use chemicals because using water will sink it. I watched an expert on Foxnews say this very thing.


103 posted on 06/09/2010 7:11:33 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: valkyry1

http://www.slate.com/id/2253193
also look up the guidelines for fire response on marine vessels, you will clearly see that they sc*ed up badly.


104 posted on 06/09/2010 7:19:28 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: driftdiver

Yes, your logic is nonsense.


105 posted on 06/09/2010 7:21:49 PM PDT by TigersEye ("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
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To: dennisw

Well according to what I saw an expert on Foxnews say they violated every rule of fighting a fire on a marine vessel by loading it up top heavy with water rather than the chemicals they should’ve been using.
http://www.slate.com/id/2253193


106 posted on 06/09/2010 7:22:13 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba
I will read your article but it is possible they could not get that much chemical out there. Even with at least 4 boats out there it was a water hose against a house fire


107 posted on 06/09/2010 8:07:07 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: chris_bdba

I know the point you are making ....That the situation would be much more manageable today if the rig had not sunk. And that fighting the fire on it helped it sink


108 posted on 06/09/2010 11:26:17 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: dennisw

Dennis.

I will remind you for many years you linked Mother Jones..lol...just a heads up.

*I confess I actually bought it and Utne Reader and NPR in college...shame on me


109 posted on 06/09/2010 11:30:34 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am not in favor of practical endorsements in primaries, endorse the conservative please)
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To: wardaddy

http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/01/real-size-bailout-treasury-fed

Mama Jones has its moments. I linked to this one last January or so. Utne reader sure was precious. I tangentially knew the Utnes behind it


110 posted on 06/09/2010 11:37:18 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: dennisw

Haven’t heard much about the “burp” theory lately.


111 posted on 06/09/2010 11:40:14 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: dennisw
The Rig!
The Rig!
The Rig Is On Fire!
We don't need no water
(I'll let y'all finish the rest)
112 posted on 06/09/2010 11:58:54 PM PDT by uglybiker (BACON!!)
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To: Gene Eric; dennisw
Isn't the "burp theory" the one where so much gas popped out of there it just ripped up the pipes, the blowout mechanisms, and then surged on up to the vessel where it was set afire and burned everything up?

That "burp theory"?

We are watching the live feed on tv (off and on). The oil is really mixed with a lot of gas ~ maybe this is normal?@

113 posted on 06/10/2010 5:41:55 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

>> Isn’t the “burp theory” the one where ... That “burp theory”?

Yes.

I admit to not following the details and time line closely, but recently I’m noticing news excerpts that seem to point to operator error.


114 posted on 06/10/2010 11:23:07 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric
The "newsies" started focusing on the BP company rep dictating to Halliburton, et al, how to cement in the pipes so pumping operations could begin ~ I think that's what you mean by "operator error".

I did a little research (for a couple of hours) and found that this business of using seawater to maintain intrapipe pressures while the cement set elsewhere in the pipe was something that was being foisted off on BP as an environmentally neat idea, and "safe" ~

It's obviously not safe to dispense with pipe stays and "brown mud".

115 posted on 06/10/2010 11:29:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cicero

It was OK.

BP received an environmental waiver from Obama.


116 posted on 06/10/2010 11:33:01 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: uglybiker
Your rig’s on fire

Your rig’s on fire

Lookin' like a fool when your rig’s on fire

With the oil in your mouth

Pipes turned sideways

Rig in the sound

Call yourself a cool cat

Looking like a fool

Walking downtown with your rig on fire

Get it up

Hey, get your rig out the sound

Looking like a fool

Walkin', talkin', with your rig on fire

Get it up

Hey, get your rig out the sound

Looking like a fool when your rig’s on fire

Oil in your mouth

Pipes turned sideways

Rig in the sound

Call yourself a cool cat

Looking like a fool

Walkin', talkin', when your rig’s on fire

Boom, Uno, Dos, Tres

Looking like a fool when your rig’s on fire

With the oil in your mouth

Pipes turned sideways

Rig in the sound

Call yourself a cool cat

117 posted on 06/10/2010 11:40:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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