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Sharron Angle: Friend to the Oath Keepers, Too
politicsdaily.com ^ | 10 June, 2010 | Paul Wachter

Posted on 06/11/2010 7:03:43 AM PDT by marktwain

Along with the tea party, .44 Magnum-owners, and fluoridation opponents, Sharron Angle, Nevada's Republican candidate for U.S. Senate, has another hot-button association: to the Oath Keepers. The organization is made up of former members of the military, police and firefighters, and while Angle has never been any of those, she does claim to be a member.

The Oath Keepers, with chapters in every state, are one of those fringe groups that share an ideology with the prototypical villain from the show "24." They're self-described "patriots," who have pledged to uphold the Constitution (just like the president!) if it's threatened. There's a list of 10 orders that they have sworn never to carry out. "They won't, for example, conduct warrantless searches, enforce martial law, or put Americans into concentration camps," writes Salon's Gabriel Winant. "It's not that surprising a code of conduct or even, in itself, entirely indefensible. (Though you do wonder where these guys were, say, five or six years ago.)" They're also big fans of the Second Amendment and preach the values of an armed citizenry, as did Angle, recently, as she commented on brisk ammunition sales around the country in the Reno Gazette-Journal:

"That tells me the nation is arming. What are they arming for if it isn't that they are so distrustful of their government? They're afraid they'll have to fight for their liberty in more Second Amendment kinds of ways? If we don't win at the ballot box, what will be the next step?"

In March, the liberal magazine Mother Jones ran a long feature on the Oath Keepers. "In the months I've spent getting to know the Oath Keepers, I've toggled between viewing them either as potentially dangerous conspiracy theorists or as crafty intellectuals with the savvy to rally politicians to their side," writes author Justine Sharrock. "The answer, I came to realize, is that they cover the whole spectrum."

The Oath Keepers say they are prepared to take up guns against the government, though there's been no instances of violence yet. Of course, were Angle to win her race, she too would be part of the federal government that the Oath Keepers find so nefarious. What will she say then to Oath Keepers like Pvt. 1st Class Lee Pray, who tells Sharrock: "If the government continues to ignore us, and forces us to engage, I'm willing to fight to the death."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: angle; banglist; constitution; oathkeepers
It his hard to believe that people such as the author of this article can be both so incredibly naive and ignorant, and dangerous to the country as they are. Sharon Angle also swore an oath to uphold the Constitution.

Has Paul resolutely refused to read any history? Has he ignored all the articles about Venuzuala and Hugo Chavez? Does he think that the domestic enemies mentioned in the oath of office are simply place holders because the person who wrote the oath wanted to make it more wordy?

It is hard to read the article, which tries to be sarcastic and fails miserably, without thinking that the oathkeepers are a very nice thing to have around today.

1 posted on 06/11/2010 7:03:43 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I have my CHL and I am a proud member of Oath Keepers.


2 posted on 06/11/2010 7:06:52 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: marktwain

Full court press here huh. So obvious. Should have caught Maddow last night it was disgusting.


3 posted on 06/11/2010 7:07:06 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: marktwain
They're self-described "patriots," who have pledged to uphold the Constitution (just like the president!) if it's threatened.
HECK YEAH!!! Where can I send her a donation?
4 posted on 06/11/2010 7:11:53 AM PDT by no dems (I never thought I could loathe anyone more than the Clintons; enter Barack Hussein Obama.)
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To: no dems

re: HECK YEAH!!! Where can I send her a donation?

http://www.sharronangle.com


5 posted on 06/11/2010 7:19:58 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: marktwain
It was clueless libs like the author, along with the hard left and racist "non-whites"(as they call themselves)that elected "commander zero".

They will not ever understand what this is about.

6 posted on 06/11/2010 7:26:46 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: marktwain
(Though you do wonder where these guys were, say, five or six years ago.)

What the heck is this maroon talking about?

7 posted on 06/11/2010 7:28:34 AM PDT by rocksblues (Obama, the biggest liar in the history of American politics!)
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To: rocksblues

He is talking about the leftist fantasy that George W. Bush was a threat to the Constitution.


8 posted on 06/11/2010 7:30:55 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: GoCards

If you caught Maddow last night you were probably the only one.


9 posted on 06/11/2010 7:33:24 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I can see November from my house!)
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To: marktwain

Article 90, UCMJ

“Any person subject to this chapter who—

(1) strikes his superior commissioned officer or draws or lifts up any weapon or offers any violence against him while he is in the execution of his office; or

(2) willfully disobeys a lawful command of his superior commissioned officer; shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, and if the offense is committed at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.”

The Oath keepers is a great idea, but ‘if you choose wrong grasshopper, you will pay dearly’.

There is a difference between an illegal order and a manifestly illegal order. An illegal order can be in contravention of general legality, such as orders to make improper use of facilities, go beyond the speed limit in a military vehicle. A manifestly or patently illegal order applies to the protection of persons (civilians, prisoners, medical personnel and clergy), medical facilities, places of prayer, monuments, etc. (this list is not exhaustive). The US distinguishes a patently illegal order as one which orders someone to commit a crime.


10 posted on 06/11/2010 7:42:13 AM PDT by ASOC (Things are not always as they appear, ask the dog chasing the car)
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To: ASOC
Protecting the Constitution is a serious business, and should not be taken lightly. I do not think the Oathkeepers are taking their oath lightly.
11 posted on 06/11/2010 7:49:40 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

My brother is an Oath Keeper, he was absolutely horrified by what happened in NOLA after Katrina.


12 posted on 06/11/2010 7:58:07 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: ASOC
I am no longer subject to the UCMJ but I will never rescind
my oath that I took when I joined the Army!
13 posted on 06/11/2010 8:00:36 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: marktwain

So people dedicated to the Constitution, the right to keep and bear arms and who are prepared to take on a criminal, tyrannical state are now “fringe” according to this writer??!! Well THAT sounds just about right! The US was founded by a bunch of fringe KOOKS, wasn’t it!!


14 posted on 06/11/2010 8:03:46 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Nevadan

Thanks for the link... Just added to the defeat Reid kitty...


15 posted on 06/11/2010 8:14:42 AM PDT by CenTex (Thanks San Francisco, I needed a reason to revisit Arizona...)
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To: marktwain
The Oath Keepers, with chapters in every state, are one of those fringe groups that share an ideology with the prototypical villain from the show "24."

HA!

16 posted on 06/11/2010 8:19:03 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: marktwain
I support the Tea Party and I own a 44 Magnum. I haven't given much thought to Fluoridation of the drinking water though, but I do know the Oath Keepers are people that love and respect the Constitution of the United States.

Wow, I must be some kind of nut. I hope Jack Bauer doesn't come after me.

17 posted on 06/11/2010 8:26:47 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Obama, proving Hillary right that it takes a Village Idiot.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

“I am a proud member of Oath Keepers”

Ditto..... committed, prepared, unshakable and very PROUD.


18 posted on 06/11/2010 9:10:37 AM PDT by Gator113 (OBAMA IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.. IMPEACH OBAMA NOW..)
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To: marktwain
Of course, were Angle to win her race, she too would be part of the federal government that the Oath Keepers find so nefarious.

If you're going to do the normal journalistic sleight-of-hand with logic, you'll need to practice more. They don't object to the existence of the federal government. How could they, all they say is that they won't do anything violating the Constitution and the Constitution specifies the existence of a federal government. What the OK object to is any attempt by the government to claim or to use more power than granted by the letter and spirit of that document. For any government that intends to fulfill the roles outlined there using no more than the powers it grants, you'd think that would be a completely non-controversial position.

19 posted on 06/11/2010 9:54:09 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Oldpuppymax
“The US was founded by a bunch of fringe KOOKS, wasn’t it!!”

You are absolutely correct from a “progressive” viewpoint.

20 posted on 06/11/2010 10:12:15 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

A lot of Vets think the same way.


21 posted on 06/11/2010 1:15:03 PM PDT by ASOC (Things are not always as they appear, ask the dog chasing the car)
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To: ASOC

As the other commentator’s stated – I am no longer subject to the UCMJ. I retired as an Airborne Infantry First Sergeant, and was DISGUSTED with politically correct – almost ALWAYS – commissioned officers, (who, BTW, ARE prohibited from making statements disagreeing with the civilian leadership of the military, NOT enlisted types). My wife and I are proud members of Oath Keepers. We are armed – quit well, in fact – and willing to defend what’s ours and the Constitution. Getting back to the military – McChrystal stated he voted for Obama – strike one…. McChrystal forbade anyone in his HQ from viewing FOX news – strikes two and three. POLITICALLY CORRECT JACKASS – I knew many, many such. I could always speak my mind, but the perfumed prince commissioned types tried to find ways to hush me. Now, they cannot EVEN go there. And I dearly love being “disrespectfully”, openly open with these worms. NOT ON MY WATCH. “Fury From The Sky” – 2/508th Infantry (Airborne), 82nd Airborne Division.


22 posted on 07/06/2010 6:06:28 AM PDT by Nathaniel (- A Man Without A Cross -)
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To: Nathaniel
I don't disagree with your post. However, the myth that the General forbade his men from watching Fox is just that, a myth. His area of operation was not able to pick up Fox cable and some other cable networks.

Leni

23 posted on 07/06/2010 6:10:01 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: marktwain

The people who founded this country would be considered traitors, miscreants, fringe and radical under today’s Obama regime. They are also the people who went down in history as war heros, countrymen and faithful fighters for liberty for themselves and all future generations. They are revered (at least by those of us who care about such things) for their desire, foresight and tenacity to see this country flourish.

Sick to know that those same men would be lambasted as fringe nut jobs in today’s society.

The Oath Keepers, the Tea Parties and all Conservatives will one day go down as the next group of successful freedom warriors.


24 posted on 07/06/2010 6:16:59 AM PDT by JenB987 (I'm still an American and 'til they take that away from me there's no day ruined. - El Rushbo)
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To: MinuteGal

And HOW, pray tell, do you KNOW it’s a “myth”? Sattelite TV is available everywhere.
He voted for Obama & he got what he paid (voted) for.


25 posted on 08/12/2010 5:53:40 AM PDT by Nathaniel (- A Man Without A Cross -)
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