Posted on 06/11/2010 5:49:03 PM PDT by USALiberty
Neither Barack Hussein Obama nor anyone else has shown that the man meets that requirement (setting aside the other two in the Article). He has never shown himself to be eligible to hold the office he now occupies. The man is putatively your Commander-in-Chief and certainly, that means if he is not legally that, then your actions in helping to shield him grossly violate the black letter law of our country, as does his promulgation of orders, funding, etc. for all of the military you included. His waging of war (whether declared or undeclared) is not valid if he is not legally eligible to hold the office, and much of that sort of reasoning, along with the pretense of underlings such as you in carrying out all orders from on high without question, is what the Nuremberg Trials were all about after World War II. Perhaps you are too young to remember those, but I am not.
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In paragraph 5, you speak of facially proper orders given to the defendant as though that were some inarguable justification for your rulings. It is not, since, as should be obvious to you, the orders given to the defendants at Nuremberg were also facially proper, but despite that, several of those being tried were executed. You should keep that in mind as you seek to violate the mandatory language for Presidential eligibility in the Constitution. It does not say the man SHOULD BE but rather that he SHALL BE a natural born Citizen, which is a particular term of art in that document. In the military legal proceeding at hand, you are not being asked to prove or disprove the Constitutional eligibility of the putative President, but merely that evidence be gathered and presented to the court on that matter.
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“Does the Military care about the Constitution? OR IS IT ALL ABOUT RANK, PRESTIGE AND PROMOTION?”
Don’t forget about beneifts and a better retirement system that’s found in 99% of the private sector.
No one in the military is going to do something silly on the basis of rumors and accusations, unless they don’t care about sitting in jail or losing their careers ...
I’ve seen other FReepers post here who are in the military and they know better than to do something stupid (from what they’ve said in posts). They’re not going to do something silly like a “third-world coup” ... LOL ...
If people want to get rid of Obama, the “sure-fire method” for getting rid of him is to vote him out of office. It works 100% of the time, when a guy loses the election ... :-)
It seems you never spent any time in the military. If the military received benefits equal to in time and labor for those in the private sector their wages would be three times at least. I spent 27 years in and my typical work day involved 16 or more hours under routine work and vacation time so to speak of maybe 8 hours per day. While at sea on subs involved as much as 24 hours work with 4-6 hours rest for entire trip. Forget about all the perks that unions are entitled too.
Whenever I click on the link it tells me it’s not found. I Scroogled it and clicked on those links and it still tells me ‘not found’.
Your time in the military skewed your perception of the private sector. Defined benefits pensions are rare in the private sector. Most workers don’t have them. Unions are a whole other can of worms, but unionized workers are a slim minority of the overall workforce.
The length of your work day doesn’t matter as you volunteered for that job. The total value of all benefits and allowances received by military personnel is substantial compared to the private sector.
When Hitler( a foreigner, Austrian) took over the German Military , the officer corp that it was wonderful. By the time most of them realized that they were supporting a insane dictator it was to late. Those that spoke against Hilter were removed from service( I don’t mean retired). While I don’t think obama would have military officers killed( at this time) he would make sure that they were no longer a threat to his office. I ‘am sure that the Officer corp of the American Military is afraid of losing rank, promotions and even their retirement. So just like German officers fearing Hilter , the American officers are afraid of obama.
Probably rightly so. The MSM would cover up a modern day night of the long knives by portraying the officers as Tea Partiers and/or racists and the public would lap it up.
Don't forget free burial services when they get killed protecting the freedom of people like you.
Perhaps what you say is true. We did “volunteer” for the military. Just like you “volunteer” for any job you hold in civilian life. The differences being we know we are bound to be seperated from our families. We know we may have to do things others fear to acknowledge. We know that our job bring us closer to possible death than 99% of civilian jobs.
And we know what we will get from that job; long hours, pay, that while good, isn’t on par with the risks we accept, and the sometimes gratitude of those who will not step forward to do what we do: defend our country.
“We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.” - Winston Churchill”
“(When Hitler came to power) the officer corp that it was wonderful”
To the contrary, Von Runstedt called him “the little Bohemian corporal.” General Manstein taught his teckel (dachshund) to give the `Hitler salute’ to entertain party guests.
Party member Rommel and others tried to have him killed. There were some who obeyed him without question—Paulus (who refused to kill himself after being promoted to Feldmarshal), and politicians like Jodl and Keitel ... but not too long into the war, veterans like Hauser & Dietrich, and young division commanders, Bitrich, Wunsch and `PanzerMeyer’ even in the SS (Liebstandarte) were following orders that made sense and ignoring those that didn’t.
I suspect our military despises him as much as we do. And we ain’t Germans. Our military are good people and better Americans than most.
You didn't mention the complimentary life insurance.
Military people do a good job and I'm grateful for their voluntary service, but let's take a look at just how many actually die in service to the US:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1920490/posts
The per capita death rate is very low. It doesn't diminish their service, but it does show that the true risk to our service members is somewhat lower then some would have us believe.
SGLI isn’t free, you pay for it.
How much per unit?
I wish more was told of the Iraqi officers who defied Saddam (order to invade Kuwait), and were executed. That was courage, to defy an order that you knew was illegal, totalitarian, and would lead your nation into a war against the world.
A VETERAN is someone who,at one point in his life wrote a blank check made payable to ‘The United States of America’ for an amount of ‘up to & including my life’
Doesn’t matter what bennies or services a military member gets, at some point, some of them are going to have that check cashed.
I was in a quirky little Marine Corps 'cadre' (formative, which never quite got formed up) unit as a lowly corporal, but worked hand in hand with senior NCOs and a ton of field grade officers - topped by a brigadier general......got to see all this careerism right in my little bootcamp face for the better part of a year.
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