Egyptian minister: Obama told me he is a Muslim

Before Its News ^ | June 10 2010 | Before Its News

[NoLibZone]

This was a statement by Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit on Nile-TV. It was made on the «Round table show».

This is the statement recorded:

Adul Gheit said he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama, where the US President told him that He was still a Muslim, the son of a Muslim father, the step son of Muslim stepfather, that his half brothers in Kenya are Muslims, and that he was sympatetic towards the Muslim agenda.

Adul Gheit claimed Obama told the Arabs to show patience. Obama promised that once he overcame some domestic issues, like the Health care reform, he would show the Muslim World how to deal with Israel.

[alexander_busek]

You could say a lot of things that aren’t in the article, but in the end we are left with what the article actually tells us - and it says Obama told him he was a muslim.

You are absolutely right, dgroundhog, I am, indeed, speculating about things that weren't in the article - that's because the article (like most) is poorly written, or at least because the article leaves a lot of important things out, chief among them: Just how reputable and reliable is Mr. Gheit? How seriously should we take his claim? Was Mr. Gheit perhaps a little tipsy at the time of the conversation? Does Mr. Gheit perhaps have a secret agenda? Is Mr. Gheit thinking of promoting a book? Is Mr. Gheit a liar? Did anyone think to cross-examine Mr. Gheit, telling him just how serious/controversial his allegation is? Did, upon hearing that Obama publicly claims to be Christian, Mr. Gheit admit that, in his private conversation, Obama in fact might have phrased himself a little differently?

Simply put: Most if not all newspaper articles nowadays are hopelessly incomplete. Sources are quoted who claim that someone else "said" something, without offering those sources' credentials. This amounts to hearsay evidence.

dgroundhog, rest assured that I have no high opinion of Obama. But I don't think that we Conservatives need to stoop to taking seriously every off-the-cuff remark some corrupt Middle Eastern bureaucrat makes to gullible reporters.

Regards,

[alexander_busek]

Indeed. Hashem already placed (for a sign) a pelican in the sky, facing the Gulf of Mexico:

Could I interest you in a slice of burnt toast bearing the image of Elvis?

Seriously: The shapes of those wispy nebulae have absolutely no relevance to current events.

Regards,

[dgroundhog]

I understand that there is usually more to a story than what is reported, especially in a ‘he said/ he said’ article like this. Sometimes things get misconstrued - I can see that.

There are a few other articles about this particular story, but all the comments are pretty descriptive and really don’t leave much room for debate about what Ghait claims Obama told him.

I would hope that this question gets asked of Obama - or at least is put to Gibbs. Obama needs to clarify this for the entire world and refute these claims if they are innaccurate.

I realize some of the points you made were more ‘Devil’s Advocate’ sort of thinking - but even if he was a drunk or did have a book coming out that wouldn’t autmotically mean that these comments weren’t made by Obama. Just saying some of the points seem moot.

Just as you think we shouldn’t automatically accept the story as truth I don’t think it is wise to leap to some grand re-interpretation of the comments based on what we know at this point.

Besides, if you start accusing some muslim Egyptian official of being a corrupt drunk having an agenda and willfully lying you are opening yourself up to allegations of racism, aren’t you? (not my personal opinion of your comments - but that is SOP for the left)

At this point it seems safest to just accept the story and ask for verification from Obama.

Granted, I am not one who thinks Conservatives need to somehow rise above the tactics of the left. I am more than happy to throw their tactics right back in their faces. Turnabout is fair play IMO - and the past has such a way of coming back to bite them in the butt.

Katrina? Deepwater Horizon. Stolen elections? Birth certificate! Bush talks to God? Obama is a secret muslim. We are racist for calling Obama inexperienced? They are racist for saying Alvin Greene is inexperienced. It’s all good to me.

The general public is dumb. They want sound bytes - not facts. At the moment we have a sound byte. I say use it to it’s fullest extent. You know the left would.

[alexander_busek]

dgroundhog, I understand and respect your position.

If you think that it's worthwhile to take this news item and "run with it," then by all means do so!

Regards,

[Munz]

Thanks .. I am sick of the liberal media .. can’t stand it. I have a few friends out of the country that pass along stuff and also like to see what is going on here.

But that video, when found will be the coup de grâce

lets put him out of our misery!

[SunkenCiv]

• "I am a Muslim", Obama tells Egyptian Foreign Minister
• Obama finally admits he's Muslim
• Obama, a 'Strategic Catastrophe' ("I am a muslim" Obama says to Egyptian FM)
• Egypt official: U.S. president claims to be Muslim

[Dajjal]

obumpa

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

UPDATE

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12luttwak.html?_r=3&pagewanted=print

[I see my hands]

They're phonies.. big phonies.

[righteousindignation]

FABULOUS!!!

[Personal Responsibility]

You can bet Israel has gathered plenty of information that Obama would not like to be made public. My bet is that they are just waiting to play the cards in the correct order to get the most effect.

"We're going to attack Iran. You are going to support us."

[mojitojoe]

I believe Ahmed Abul Gheit. A large number of Wright’s Trinity congregation were Muslim. I think that’s why Wright retired when the SHTF. They knew people would attend and see what really went on there and who attended. There isn’t a doubt in my mind O is a Muslim.

[ChurtleDawg]

this smells fishy to me.

[rfp1234]

Syncretism also occurs commonly in expressions of arts and culture (see eclecticism) as well as politics (see syncretic politics). This most adequately explains Obama ...

I shall now imitate Sarah and coin a new term just for Obama:

Syncretinism

[toofast2]

Let us all hope and pray.

[Antoninus]

Imagine that. Muslims kill 3,000 of our countrymen, so we go ahead and elect one of them president.

We have got to be the stupidest, most pathetic country in human history.

[PA-RIVER]

Clear as a bell for me too. He's Born and raised a Muzzie. That's a fact.

You can take the boy out of Jakarta, but you can't take Jakarta out of the boy. It's who he is till his last day.

[reagan_fanatic]

"I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and I bear witness that Mohammad is Allah's servant and His Messenger, and Ali is his successor ’vasi’ and minister ‘vazir’

That very line there tells me that their God is not the God of Abraham. There's no way that the one true God would consider a child molester one of his most cherished servants.