Posted on 06/12/2010 9:51:14 AM PDT by Talisker
I've found the slander and contempt expressed on Free Republic towards Abby Sunderland and her parents quite interesting. Of course, we're all supposed to believe that every post on FR is independently made, but these hate posts have been too interlocked in similiarly bizarre content for me to believe that.
Basically the hateful screeds boil down to Abby being a child instead of a young woman, unable to understand the danger of her trip, put at risk by fame seeking parents, to do something with no socially approved redeeming value, which ended in abject failure due to Abby's incompetence, and for which CPS should be called in to have Abby pulled from the family for re-education, while the parents are jailed, fined, and billed for the rescue efforts.
In short, an absolutely damning, completely collectivist viewpoint with zero acknowledgement of independent rights, which is based solely on collectivist evaluation, collectivist judgment, and collectivist punishment - fronted as family values and child protection.
Oh yeah, and also a complete and utter lie.
For there were many expert sailors as advisors behind this trip, all of whom signed off on both Abby's abilities, her equipment and her trip plan. And there was never any hint of her family not being willing to pay for any part of the rescue efforts. Entire ships have been destroyed through rogue waves, but there's no acknowledgement of that universal danger. And Abby performed beautifully as a sailor and as an adult, through storms, equipment failures, and difficulties across thousands of miles of sailing, and a crisis situation which would have had all of these naysayers pissing their pants.
But pants pissing is the point here - the very big point. Because Abby threatens the millions of families who base their concept of child rearing on the idea that childhood, literally, never ends. That children must be driven everywhere and monitored constantly, even as teenagers. That they need psych meds for growing pains. That responsibility is an injustice towards them, because they can't be allowed to develop any personal power that is not first approved by the mommy educational collective.
So pants pissing has become noble. It has become the sign of respect towards the community, of good parenting, and of normal childhood - the childhood that never ends. In fact, pants-pissing has become the litmus test of social approval itself, because it enables the protection of neurotic helicopter parents who see bogeymen under every bush so that they can justify an obsession about their children's safety that allows THEM to never grow up.
And guess which political party they ALL belong to, and HOPE to never CHANGE from?
So to them, now - now - "we" have this tiny little thumb-sucking girl child, only 16 years old and so barely out of diapers, being thrown into the ocean by greedy parents, straight into a hurricane to drown for their greed, with absolutely no approval from any group of safety parent educators or state approved parental control boards!
Do you realize what this could do to the carefully created psychological voting blocks of the pants pissers? Especially when that so-called "mom" from Alaska with the big family that hunts and fishes and camps and snow machines is running around actually threatening to run for high office?
Do you see the connection here? If Abby is praised and acknowledged for her courage and maturity, and for living life instead of just conforming to it, and especially - especially - for her individuality, her acceptance of personal risk and responsibility without the approval of the collective, people might start to remember what it means to be an American again! They might start to remember freedom, and risk for the sake of living life to the fullest, and learning through doing, and the value of learning courage in the face of difficulty, and they might start to discover their self-respect again, and build character.
And how would that effect the pants-pissing moms who scuttle through life at the end of the snapping fingers of feminist, communist, education-collective politicians? How would that effect their views of the locked-down, cop-patrolled, drug-infected, psych-medicated, fenced prison hellholes of morale-crushing subservience called public schools? How would that effect the ability of these politicians to convince these collectively-approved, latte-sucking "moms" to continue to destroy their children - by never letting them grow up - in the name of "safety"?
And above all, how would that effect the votes?
No, no, no, no, no. Call out the shills, invade the Net, and even get on Free Republic and in the name of God, parenting, sin, ego, vanity, stupidity and every other communist-studied conservative trigger-word, invoke cowardice in the name of responsibility, rip away adulthood with the insult of enforced childhood, hammer on cost without mentioning no resistance to payment, and above all sneer at parenting that is based of building courage and trust and adventure as an absolutely unforgivable violation of the sacred order of socially approved pants-pissing.
And demand wet pants! Wet pants for social justice! Wet pants for lack of guilt! And especially, wet pants for votes!
After all, it's for the children.
P.S. Congratulations to Abby and her family - you all did great. Abby sailed with competence, courage and joy, and inspired millions of people. If America is to have a future in freedom, she and people like her are the ones who will make it happen. But above all, she and her family made selfish cowards and conniving hypocrites everywhere publicly wet themselves, and for that America is truly grateful.
Thanks. I think it will be instructive to many on this thread!
“Obviously this was addressed to you, Crim. And for you others addressed by this post...grow up and get a life of your own.”
Sorry...I dont bow to to idiots who support putting a 16 year in the middle of the indian ocean during WINTER for a publicity stunt.
You guys are all clucking and preening about collectivism and crap....well..who went and got her?
Oh yeah...the collective.
Funny thing is....if they hadnt found her...or found her dead...you’d all be singing a different tune...
As far as being a “risk taker”...I’ve been riding motorcycles for well over 35 years including a few years racing dirt bikes....so you can shove that talking point sideways...
Risk taking does not equate to assisted suicide or a death wish.
The whole thing is PR stunt gone wrong......and I’m not going to take a position of supporting a family of attention seeking Libtards merely to appease a bunch of group thinking invective tossers on free republic...
Good day.
BINGO lookie here
I'd like to know what all the name callers are going say when something like this ends costing multiple lives.
“I’d like to know what all the name callers are going say when something like this ends costing multiple lives.”
They wont say shit....they will crawl back into the woodwork...
They wont say shit....they will crawl back into the woodwork...
no comments from them about the report that french captain had to be fished out of the water in rough seas.
how many of the great explorers would deliberately put other lives at risk by taking foolish risks
Thanks for confirming what I posted.
This wasn’t about freedom in the sense that you are meaning, it is about breaking a record for the rewards.
“I’d be pretty pissed that my government spent hundreds of thousands of dollars...”
I see you are ‘in Ohio’ and if you go boating or fishing on Lake Erie and get in trouble and have to have the Coast Guard rescue you, I hope you remember your words. Obviously if you are out there and get in trouble, you should not have been out there - pay or drown.
You like to dish it out, but obviously do not like criticism...go for a sail sometime...Lake Erie is a nice gentle lake for the likes of a big risk-taker like yourself. Sail across, sail the length...enjoy.
You should mind your own business. You want to use the full cohersive power of the State to correct behavior you don’t like. It’s wrong and incompatible with freedom.
Leave people alone and don't be so eager to harness the full power of the State to correct other peoples behavior you don't like. Be willing to accept bad outcomes. That's the price of freedom. Sounds like I’m speaking a foreign language to moder day Americans.
No Gaffe.
“You should mind your own business. You want to use the full cohersive power of the State to correct behavior you don’t like. It’s wrong and incompatible with freedom.”
Arguable. Kids have the RIGHT to protected against ABUSIVE parents - in my opinion. That’s all I’m saying.
As you pointed out in #214,the involvement of Big Government often results in even greater danger to children.
In the case of kids sitting in back seats, Big Government has been the cause of many, many deaths.
That’s consistant with the reuslts of the oil spill, which has been componded with the invovlment of Big Governement.
“As you pointed out in #214,the involvement of Big Government often results in even greater danger to children.”
Yea - I too am suspicious of big government. In fact, after posting, I was wondering if home schooling itself could be declared abusive. Now I wonder about my original position - I just wish there was a way to get at parents like this poor girl has - maybe getting shamed by society, or castrated?
So with regard to your children, who gets to make that decision? You or Obama?
yeah yeah so I will give the keys to a Ferrari or let some 15 year olds trek though the amazon ,its called freedom
Well, you and I are probably have different views of whether Abby should be at sea, but in any event, I think government poses an even greater danger than the sea, and even abusive parents.
The Soviet Union was a good example from the past, Cuba a good example from the present, of the danger government is to the health of children.
“The point being...they shouldnt have HAD to rescue her...”
Yeah, don’t rescue anyone under 18 from any ship in trouble. After all, they shouldn’t be out there, right?
“Yeah, don’t rescue anyone under 18 from any ship in trouble. After all, they shouldn’t be out there, right?”
Strawman argument ...address the REAL situation..she shouldnt have needed rescue...she shouldnt have been there..the whole thing was a publicity stunt gone wrong.
I’m not saying “dont rescue her” no matter how hard you imagine it.
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