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Shouldn't a College Degree Keep You Out of Poverty?
Change.Org ^ | June 11th 2010 | Lauren Kelley

Posted on 06/14/2010 6:16:41 AM PDT by Cardhu

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To: Cardhu

The most important thing to do while in college is NETWORK...NETWORK...NETWORK.

Find out who the players are in the field you are pursuing, find ways to meet them and let them know who you are, so that when you graduate, you already have connections. As always, it’s now what you know, it’s who you know.


61 posted on 06/14/2010 7:05:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: hal ogen
Oh, I am sure she could get a job.....

But it's not quite how she thought it was going to turn out. You know...working at Home Depot as a stocker...when she has this high end BA Degree.

Personally I think the parents should have guided her a bit better with her choices.

But what do I know.............

62 posted on 06/14/2010 7:07:12 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: KeyLargo

Thank you, a very interesting link


63 posted on 06/14/2010 7:08:39 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu
Credentialism is one of the diseases of our time: it's not a college degree that should matter, but a college education -- unfortunately, very few colleges students to day actually understand what that entails, or even think about trying to obtain an actual education.
64 posted on 06/14/2010 7:10:52 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Persae Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Osage Orange
My stepdaughter has been a professional student studying “Green Design” for years. She is 28 and broke. Meanwhile her 18 year old brother started apprentice work this morning and will be going to trade school starting in the fall after receiving a full scholarship. Something tells me he will be done with school and working while she continues to gripe about how she can't find work in her field.
65 posted on 06/14/2010 7:11:05 AM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I worked my butt off in school and spent some time in the Navy but when I was finished, I had three degrees and no loans.


66 posted on 06/14/2010 7:15:53 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: dangerdoc

I worked for McDonald’s and grocery stores and had no debts when I finished my three degrees and CPA certificate, either.


67 posted on 06/14/2010 7:20:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: Cardhu

I can remember who said it (thinking it was Williams or Armstrong), but they said if you follow these 4 rules, you will not be in poverty. 99% of people who follow all 4 of these rules are above the poverty level:

1. Finish High School.
2. Get a job. Any job.
3. Don’t commit crimes, including using illegal drugs.
4. Don’t have children until you are married.

Note that “Get a college degree” is not among the rules.


68 posted on 06/14/2010 7:21:08 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Cardhu

Thanks for the heads up.


69 posted on 06/14/2010 7:23:16 AM PDT by Ayn And Milton
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To: Rummyfan

“Not if the degree is in women’s or ethnic studies!”

A couple of decades ago during another recessions, many so called college graduates couldn’t get a job.

One of our younger relatives, who had a real degree with 3 summers of internship, had several job offers.

We asked him why.

His answer, “So many degrees then were based on bs like those based on sex, ethnic bs and other liberal bs. He labeled those degrees as instant unemployment degrees. Noone except the government and colleges wanted to hire anyone with an instant unemployment degree!”

Decades later, his analysis is more accurate in the current economic down turn.


70 posted on 06/14/2010 7:27:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Pollster1
Classics and Classical Studies (I like this one, but it’s not marketable)

Liberal arts disciplines such as this one train students in thinking and communicating.

Such graduates are likely to be adaptable, innovative, and effective leaders.

It may be more difficult to get one's foot in the door with this kind of major, but the employer that gives those grads a chance will profit thereby.

Too many graduates of pre-professional programs are trained to be nothing more than replaceable drones.

71 posted on 06/14/2010 7:29:31 AM PDT by Crichton
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To: ladyvet
Yep....one of my kids went to trade school. Graduated in Jan. of this year...lives in SoCal...and has been making very good money..and the sky is the limit, I think. The best thing is she is doing what she loves.

The other is going to college...and will graduate with a degree that you can actually get a good job with.

FRegards,

72 posted on 06/14/2010 7:30:21 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: FourPeas
An acquaintance is pursing a degree in, no kidding, “Human Rights”.

Sounds like a perfect opportunity to work for Hamas, IHH, or the U.N.
73 posted on 06/14/2010 7:44:44 AM PDT by ddk632 (Tagline coming soon)
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To: Cardhu

Michael Medved did a classic interview on his show (wish I had it on tape!) of a Cornell graduate who was working as a barista at Starbucks and trying to organize them for the Wobblies. (did not seem to occur to him that he could be doing something much more worthwhile with his Cornell degree)


74 posted on 06/14/2010 7:49:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: CatoRenasci

Credentialism is one of the diseases of our time: it’s not a college degree that should matter, but a college education

I think you are right on-target there. All of the 60’s radicals in Academia (Bill Ayers types) are pretty open about the fact that they are lucky to have gotten “credentialed” at 1960’s and 70’s prices. (bemoaning the fact that it is much more expensive to train a young LIberal Activist today)


75 posted on 06/14/2010 7:52:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: muddler
ambition + degree = success.

Ambition + Effort=Success.

Ambiton|Effort| Degree

Any two will work.

Three is better, of course, unless the education is in fingerpainting.

76 posted on 06/14/2010 7:58:37 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (CNN:AP:etc:Today, President Obama's stool was firm and well-formed. One end was slightly pointed. ")
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To: OCCASparky

I teach at DeVry. The material is there and presented; the question is whether the recipient is inclined to apply it.

MIT gives away education for free at ocw.mit,edu - all courses and all content.

Giving someone a box of tools does not make him a carpenter if he does not apply said tools. Nobody will give you dinner just because you have a box of tools.


77 posted on 06/14/2010 8:02:55 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: dfwgator; CatoRenasci; Anitius Severinus Boethius; Ayn And Milton; Buckeye McFrog; KeyLargo; ...
The most important thing to do while in college is NETWORK...NETWORK...NETWORK.

Exactly, and after college, if you know you have the ability, find out what conferences, in your field, that are being held all over the world. Organize your vacation to travel to Italy or wherever and, for a fee, you can become a speaker.

Go to a couple of these conferences it will cost you a few hundred dollars but if you are good, you will make a name for yourself with people who matter.

Never waste a vacation, two days at the Conference - a prepared presentation, and ten days having a great holiday.

At least your CV will stand out among the crowd and you will never get such value for the money you spend even if you went to Harvard.



PS. If you are a guy it helps to have an elegant lady with you, she will really help you NETWORK at these conferences. :)

78 posted on 06/14/2010 8:05:57 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: ridesthemiles
I cannot wait until that ‘graduate’ who thinks they are worth $100,000 a year in salary cannot find an auto mechanic or a plumber to repair their property.

And they themselves have never learned so much as "righty tighty lefty loosey".

79 posted on 06/14/2010 8:18:20 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Cardhu

Good call, cheers for that...


80 posted on 06/14/2010 8:27:58 AM PDT by Ayn And Milton
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