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Who Died And Made BP King Of The Gulf Of Mexico? (Prepare To Get Really Angry!)
The Economic Collapse Blog ^ | June 18, 2010 | Staff

Posted on 06/18/2010 9:31:10 AM PDT by lbryce

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To: XenaLee
Maybe because the hundreds of thousands of gallons of oil had a 60 day head start with 60,000 gallons per day spewing out.

Maybe because the coast guard stopped workers from cleanup to inspect life preservers and fire extinguishers.

Maybe because EPA stopped allowing the use of dispersants.

81 posted on 06/18/2010 11:43:26 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
How do you figure that I am more concerned about NALCO solvent than 'BIG OIL'?

Corexit is a dispersant, not a solvent. 74 posted on Friday, June 18, 2010 1:21:45 PM by Skepolitic

Stop making sense! That is not allowed on this thread.

Um...aren't you the one that just called it a solvent? If Skepolitic is making sense, calling it a dispersant, not a solvent, that means you are incorrect in calling it a solvent. You get that...right?

82 posted on 06/18/2010 11:44:21 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: lbryce

WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!


83 posted on 06/18/2010 11:45:29 AM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: XenaLee
Why, exactly, would flights over the coast be banned?

Because hundreds of people are trying to clean up the Gulf and would be in the way? /s

84 posted on 06/18/2010 11:46:46 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: XenaLee
Either the dispersants aren’t working like they’re supposed to and the photos of the damage are legitimate, or the photos are faked.

This is the sort of false dichotomy that liberals so often make. Maybe this whole Obama-Nalco conspiracy actually IS intended to make conservatives look stupid.

The dispersant cannot make contact with 100% of this enormous quantity of oil. Of course, a substantial fraction is still going to wash ashore. Also, the dispersant doesn't magically make oil vanish. It's purpose is to disperse the oil to accelerate biodegradation. Until the oil biodegrades, it's still there in seawater.

85 posted on 06/18/2010 11:51:12 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: US Navy Vet

And let un not forget that Great Britian offered us half of their natural reserves of chemicals (eco safe) for use in stopping the oil, obama declined in favor of using a toxic based chemical from Chicago. follow the money,obama does not give a damm about the enviroment .


86 posted on 06/18/2010 12:27:25 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: chris_bdba; lbryce
I wonder about how that dispersant will work once it comes down as rain on our land?

Here's some video showing what has already happened: Mystery Crop Damage Threatens Hundreds Of Acres

87 posted on 06/18/2010 12:43:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: OldDeckHand

‘...Barack Obama knows how to campaign and score political points, but he’s feckless at just about anything else...’

Exactly! CIC in Mr. Obama’s case = Campaigner in Chief!

He has no experience in practical problem solving and he seems too arrogant to seek or accept input from those outside of his ‘inner circle’.


88 posted on 06/18/2010 12:50:54 PM PDT by 4integrity
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To: John S Mosby; mojitojoe

When one mixes chemicals with oil, such as this dispersant, other chemical combinations are released.

One can take chemicals that are ordinary ‘household’ cleaners, and make Crystal Methamphetamine.

It’s not as important as to ‘what’ elements are used to make something, as their relative quantities, and how their elements ‘combine’.

So, when you take this much ‘dispersant’ and mix it with the oil, and leave it at the mercy of the chemicals in the ocean, and the Sun drawing the vapors produced into the atmosphere , what happens?

Why are crops in the Mid-South being damaged by an ‘unknown’ cause? One that resembles what would happen if you sprinkled Benzene on them?

Or are we to assume that ‘contrails’ caused it all?

Here is the fact sheet on COREXIT http://lmrk.org/corexit_9500_uscueg.539287.pdf


89 posted on 06/18/2010 1:04:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: omegadawn

Sad, things that can help this nation are a no-no for Obama and Co.


90 posted on 06/18/2010 1:07:33 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: grey_whiskers

No problem, happy to oblige


91 posted on 06/18/2010 1:10:39 PM PDT by infidel29 (Islamunism: From each infidel accoding to his means, to the government as it sees fit.)
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To: mojitojoe

Thank you for the info, I was looking for links to this myself and now I don’t have to.


92 posted on 06/18/2010 1:15:36 PM PDT by infidel29 (Since 0bama is NOT a uniter, can we change the acronym to just plain P.O.S.?)
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To: mojitojoe
All you have to do is read the MSDS for the stuff.

Bad news indeed.

93 posted on 06/18/2010 1:22:49 PM PDT by ASOC (Things are not always as they appear, ask the dog chasing the car)
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To: UCANSEE2; John S Mosby; mojitojoe
"So, when you take this much ‘dispersant’ and mix it with the oil, and leave it at the mercy of the chemicals in the ocean, and the Sun drawing the vapors produced into the atmosphere , what happens?"

Good question. What happens? You must have missed my earlier post (and your 8th grade science class) about the scientific principles of evaporation.

Dissolved solids do not evaporate. This is why rain water is fresh water, not salt water. Simply stated, evaporation is nature's purification process. The water molecules evaporate, leaving the water's adulterants behind.

Of course, you're probably thinking to yourself, "What about acid rain?" Fair question. Acid rain is not acidic because of chemicals that have evaporated from bodies of water. Acid rain is acidic because of gases and particulates that are ejected into the atmosphere from the burning of fossil fuels, primarily coal. These particulates then are captured in clouds by water droplets formed by water molecules clinging together. The water droplets, mixed with the acidic particulates grow too heavy to be suspended by wind and eventually fall to the ground. But is has NOTHING to do with evaporation.

94 posted on 06/18/2010 1:24:28 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Skepolitic; mojitojoe

Yes, the product being used in the Gulf is 9500A. BP even tested this on site at depth and demonstrated its effectiveness and safety such that the EPA has approved its use,even though it was already approved and on their list. So BP jumped through a hoop at their demand and tested again.

A link to the subject at Washington Post at the time, many many weeks ago and in that article is a link to APPROVED DISPERSANTS from the EPA:

http://views.washingtonpost.com/climate-change/post-carbon/2010/05/epa_demands_less_toxic_dispersant.html

Here are two useful links to the EPA National Contingency Plan Product List. These are all approved products, and by the way some of the other dispersants are seriously worse.
MojitoJoe:Please don’t quote wikipedia- it is open sourced you know. I do think the general public is woefully uninformed in chemistry, and the leftie lawyers like it that way. Fear sells. And I am NOT defending BP or NALCO, but they DID do their homework. The well needs to be capped, and all this fingerpointing knocked off.

http://www.epa.gov/emergencies/content/ncp/product_schedule.htm

and
http://www.epa.gov/emergencies/content/ncp/products/corex950.htm


95 posted on 06/18/2010 1:37:31 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: UCANSEE2

If there is benzene in the air, you’d know it immediately. Crops fail for a lot of reasons. Now the fund is sort of in place watch people line up. Bonanza. But the well continues to gush. Thanks obambi, you’ve helped the tort bar a lot.


96 posted on 06/18/2010 1:42:06 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: kcvl

And how many of those six do not kill fish?


97 posted on 06/18/2010 1:45:33 PM PDT by kronic
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To: All
COREXIT 9500 MSDS
(That's material safety data sheet for those who don't know.)

0 is harmless, 4 is bad jojos.

Health - 1/1
Flamability - 1/1
Instability - 0/0
Other - None

98 posted on 06/18/2010 2:00:04 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: mojitojoe
LMAO. EPA is a liberal website?

If you don't think the EPA is a liberal website, your "A" has fallen off, along with your brain.

99 posted on 06/18/2010 2:11:39 PM PDT by jimt
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To: kcvl; mojitojoe
Stop making sense! That is not allowed on this thread.

Hysterical charges certainly seem to be more prevalent !

100 posted on 06/18/2010 2:17:24 PM PDT by jimt
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