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Obama Internet kill switch plan approved by US Senate (Committee)
Tech World ^ | June 25, 2010 | Grant Gross

Posted on 06/26/2010 10:03:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

A US Senate committee has approved a wide-ranging cybersecurity bill that some critics have suggested would give the US president the authority to shut down parts of the Internet during a cyberattack.

Senator Joe Lieberman and other bill sponsors have refuted the charges that the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act gives the president an Internet "kill switch." Instead, the bill puts limits on the powers the president already has to cause "the closing of any facility or stations for wire communication" in a time of war, as described in the Communications Act of 1934, they said in a breakdown of the bill published on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee website.

The committee unanimously approved an amended version of the legislation by voice vote Thursday, a committee spokeswoman said. The bill next moves to the Senate floor for a vote, which has not yet been scheduled.

Obama security review gets mixed reception

The bill, introduced earlier this month, would establish a White House Office for Cyberspace Policy and a National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications, which would work with private US companies to create cybersecurity requirements for the electrical grid, telecommunications networks and other critical infrastructure.

The bill also would allow the US president to take emergency actions to protect critical parts of the Internet, including ordering owners of critical infrastructure to implement emergency response plans, during a cyber-emergency. The president would need congressional approval to extend a national cyber-emergency beyond 120 days under an amendment to the legislation approved by the committee.

The legislation would give the US Department of Homeland Security authority that it does not now have to respond to cyber-attacks, Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, said earlier this month.

"Our responsibility for cyber defence goes well beyond the public sector because so much of cyberspace is owned and operated by the private sector," he said. "The Department of Homeland Security has actually shown that vulnerabilities in key private sector networks like utilities and communications could bring our economy down for a period of time if attacked or commandeered by a foreign power or cyber terrorists."

Other sponsors of the bill are Senators Susan Collins, a Maine Republican, and Tom Carper, a Delaware Democrat.

One critic said Thursday that the bill will hurt the nation's security, not help it. Security products operate in a competitive market that works best without heavy government intervention, said Wayne Crews, vice president for policy and director of technology studies at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, an anti-regulation think tank.

"Policymakers should reject such proposals to centralize cyber security risk management," Crews said in an e-mail. "The Internet that will evolve if government can resort to a 'kill switch' will be vastly different from, and inferior to, the safer one that will emerge otherwise."

Cybersecurity technologies and services thrive on competition, he added. "The unmistakable tenor of the cybersecurity discussion today is that of government steering while the market rows," he said. "To be sure, law enforcement has a crucial role in punishing intrusions on private networks and infrastructure. But government must coexist with, rather than crowd out, private sector security technologies."

On Wednesday, 24 privacy and civil liberties groups sent a letter raising concerns about the legislation to the sponsors. The bill gives the new National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications "significant authority" over critical infrastructure, but doesn't define what critical infrastructure is covered, the letter said.

Without a definition of critical infrastructure there are concerns that "it includes elements of the Internet that Americans rely on every day to engage in free speech and to access information," said the letter, signed by the Center for Democracy and Technology, the American Civil Liberties Union, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and other groups.

"Changes are needed to ensure that cybersecurity measures do not unnecessarily infringe on free speech, privacy, and other civil liberties interests," the letter added.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1partyrule; congress; cybersecurity; dictatorship; government; governmentcontrol; internet; lieberman; obama
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1 posted on 06/26/2010 10:03:20 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Works in China, after all.


2 posted on 06/26/2010 10:05:48 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Let me be clear. The voluntary pancipation of Cinco de Quatro is mandated in all 57 states.)
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To: Psalm 144

3 posted on 06/26/2010 10:08:29 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.")
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To: EternalVigilance

Am I the only one who does not believe ANYTHING obammy or his regime says?

However, this sort of talk is making a lot of people madder—and hopefully, they will replace a lot of congresscritters in the upcoming election, thereby neutering a lot of their power.


4 posted on 06/26/2010 10:09:53 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil

No basil, you are definitely not the only one.


5 posted on 06/26/2010 10:11:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.")
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To: EternalVigilance
the bill puts limits on the powers the president already has to cause "the closing of any facility or stations for wire communication" in a time of war

As if Obama cares about limits on power defined in the law or in the US Constitution.

He has already shown that he will ignore the Constitutional limits on Presidential powers, break any law and do what he wants, when he wants.

And the rumpswabbers in congress are only too happy to follow their tyrannical half-black messiah down the road to despotism, and Soviet style socialism.
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6 posted on 06/26/2010 10:16:50 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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Is this the bill that will allow them to “black box” all internet connections or is that tied to the FCC regulation changes? I am getting confused with this massive onslaught of government.


7 posted on 06/26/2010 10:18:22 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: EternalVigilance

Elections have consequences.


8 posted on 06/26/2010 10:18:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: EternalVigilance

somebody ping the ham radio guys.


9 posted on 06/26/2010 10:19:44 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (so far behind the curve, it's in back of me.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Imagine if this had been tried while Bush and Cheney were in office. Every wacko leftist from 12 years old to 104 would be screaming their collective heads off.


10 posted on 06/26/2010 10:21:39 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, $10 is all it would take, why spend millions to cover it up?)
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To: EternalVigilance

LOL! I didn’t think so-——at least not the only one here.


11 posted on 06/26/2010 10:22:02 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Crimson Elephant

Hard to keep track of which critical Constitutional guarantees have been decimated from day to day these days, isn’t it?


12 posted on 06/26/2010 10:23:17 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: BenLurkin
Elections have consequences.

Yep. Elect leftists and their useful idiots and this is what you get.

13 posted on 06/26/2010 10:24:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.")
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To: FreeAtlanta

When you’ve got the ACLU and conservative bloggers saying the same thing about a bill DC should freeze over.


14 posted on 06/26/2010 10:25:10 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: EternalVigilance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXzQD2SRESs


15 posted on 06/26/2010 10:26:12 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: EternalVigilance

It’s a great day for fascism!

Thank you RINOs! :) Selling us out one freedom at a time. :)


16 posted on 06/26/2010 10:27:25 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Senator Joe Lieberman and other bill sponsors have refuted the charges that the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act gives the president an Internet "kill switch." Instead, the bill puts limits on the powers the president already has to cause "the closing of any facility or stations for wire communication" in a time of war, as described in the Communications Act of 1934, they said in a breakdown of the bill published on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee website.
I'm sure it will be used against CAIR and the many other Islamofascist orgs. /sarc
17 posted on 06/26/2010 10:27:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: EternalVigilance

Misleading headline: not the full Senate, just a committee.


18 posted on 06/26/2010 10:29:28 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Obama suffers from decision-deficit disorder." Oliver North 6/25/10)
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To: NonValueAdded

Dang. They should fix that.


19 posted on 06/26/2010 10:31:38 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.")
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To: the invisib1e hand
somebody ping the ham radio guys.

I'm going back to smoke signals!


20 posted on 06/26/2010 10:35:20 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: EternalVigilance

That is a very misleading headline by TechWorld.

The very first sentence explains that this has NOT been approved by the Senate but by a Senate committee.

Hopefully the pubbies will grow some cojones and stop this Marxist takeover.


21 posted on 06/26/2010 10:37:33 AM PDT by upchuck (Don't let freedom slip away. After America, there is no place to go ~ Kitty Werthmann - Google her.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
somebody ping the ham radio guys.

Won't say my call on an open forum, but I will tell you that this bullshit is exactly why I got my license a few years ago. When the Government shuts down the internet and phone communications, all we'll have left are us ham radio guys that have been preparing for a scenario like this for years now.

Ironic that this bill would pass through this Senate Committee on Field Day.

Speaking of, I'm off to my field day location for the day. Starts in about 30 minutes, just enough time for me to get there...

22 posted on 06/26/2010 10:37:47 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Mojave
Yep.

"This is not a new world. It is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements. Technological advances and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that proceeded it, it has one iron rule: Logic is an enemy and truth is a menace."

23 posted on 06/26/2010 10:38:51 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.")
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To: EternalVigilance
Thanks W. Thanks Alberto Gonzales. Thanks for all your combined stupid ideas Big Brother Power Grabs with precedents set for all future presidents.
24 posted on 06/26/2010 10:38:51 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Changes are needed to ensure that cybersecurity measures do not unnecessarily infringe on free speech, privacy, and other civil liberties interests,” the letter added”

BUT, if it’s NECESSARY to infringe on free speech, privacy, and other civil liberties interests, ANYTHING GOES.

I dream for the days when public hangings for treason becomes common place, with fairness and legal authority of course.


25 posted on 06/26/2010 10:40:44 AM PDT by Gator113 (OBAMA IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.. IMPEACH OBAMA NOW..)
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To: EternalVigilance; All

Good.

As a U.S. citizen I do not live in the U.S., but was out in the streets against Noriega. Now it is your turn. But it will never happen because you are a bunch of chickens.

Where have you been against Obama but hiding under you beds. You have done nothing, nothing but complain and whine… doing nothing.

Do you think the blue helmets are going to save your asses?

Thank you for giving my country away because of your lack of spine but are talented in whining.

I would really like to say “go to hell” to all of you spineless creeps, but Obama is doing it for me.


26 posted on 06/26/2010 10:43:00 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: upchuck; Admin Moderator
Admin, could you add [Committee] on the tail end of the headline, please?
27 posted on 06/26/2010 10:43:30 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.")
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To: basil

Absolutely not. I will never believe ANYTHING that filthy bastard ever has to say.


28 posted on 06/26/2010 10:44:23 AM PDT by Gator113 (OBAMA IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.. IMPEACH OBAMA NOW..)
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To: Admin Moderator

Wow, that was fast. I hit send and looked at the thread and it was there. *grin*

Thanks!


29 posted on 06/26/2010 10:44:23 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.")
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Wow. And here I thought I was working as hard as I can every day, by every means I can think of, to restore America’s principles and republican self-government. Who knew?


30 posted on 06/26/2010 10:46:25 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.")
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To: FreeAtlanta
Imagine if this had been tried while Bush and Cheney were in office. Every wacko leftist from 12 years old to 104 would be screaming their collective heads off.

It was tried in effect. Bush and his AG wanted databases on all Internet activity. Remember that? Guess who was cheering it on? Only the Brain Numbed Loyal As Sheep Dogs Rockefeller GOP Bushbots in FR that's who.

31 posted on 06/26/2010 10:47:33 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: All

Where is the ACLU??


32 posted on 06/26/2010 10:48:26 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Soccer was invented by European ladies to keep them busy while their husbands did the cooking.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Definition of "Cyber Attack" is?

( Conservatives Organizing to Defeat Obama in the next election cycle.Fascism on the rise.)

33 posted on 06/26/2010 10:49:51 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is a fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: Candor7

If they have their preferences, you betcha.


34 posted on 06/26/2010 10:50:57 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.")
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To: KevinDavis
Where is the ACLU??

Helping wire the switch.

35 posted on 06/26/2010 10:51:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.")
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To: EternalVigilance

If we had any real journalists in this country the quesioned would be asked: “Why would you need to shut down communication during an attack? Wouldn’t just the opposite be better?”


36 posted on 06/26/2010 10:53:39 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: EternalVigilance

btt


37 posted on 06/26/2010 10:55:08 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Terry Mross

One would think. At least for a free people.


38 posted on 06/26/2010 10:55:21 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.")
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To: Cacique; All
White House Preparing National Online ID Plan
39 posted on 06/26/2010 10:56:12 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty.")
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To: usconservative

Interesting that you had to get a license.


40 posted on 06/26/2010 10:56:42 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: EternalVigilance
Its simple really., Obama gets his off shore fascist buddies, either ARABS of SOROS to organize a cyber attack , when the conservatibe movement uses the internet to exppose him to the public over many issues.

Obama gets the cyber attack to happen, Then shits down the internet, throwinig 1st amemdment speech rights of his election opponenets into disarray.

Pretty SLick huh?

These fascists are inviting lead.

41 posted on 06/26/2010 11:00:14 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is a fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: EternalVigilance
A centralized security strategy or apparatus will be easier to compromise by either brute force, or covert actions. A layered, distributed, heterogeneous, and decentralized approach - based on private, competitive solutions - is better.

An independent, descriptive standards body - staffed with real-world professional experts - would do a much better job at strengthening our systems then a guberment operated bureaucracy that mandates prescriptive measures and technologies that is then communicated outward to private organizations. Where's the secrecy or mystery in that approach? If gubermint defines it (who, what, how, when, where), mandates its use (everyone does it the same way with the same technologies), and publishes it in laws or operating procedures that can be reviewed by enemies? How is that better than being descriptive and letting each company choose the best way to accomplish the goals?

Why not let the industries work to define what things need to be secured and how far the organizations must go to secure their systems based on their role in the nation's infrastructure (e.g. Tier 1 ISP Network Admins who manage firewalls must have background checks every year and be certified to a certain security level) - then let each company implement the best solution for them that meets or exceeds the goals? The over arching standards and goals could be reviewed and approved by the proper agency experts within Homeland Security, but the actual detailed implementations would be left to each company.

42 posted on 06/26/2010 11:00:14 AM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Thank you EternalVigilance.

“Physical Force” is the only thing that is understood when one is trying to save one’s country. Obama is about to use it while everyone is sitting around and whining.

P.S.

I was one of the few Americans running around against Noriega. The rest were hiding under their beds.


43 posted on 06/26/2010 11:13:07 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: EternalVigilance; Admin Moderator
Internet kill switch plan

Wow, that was fast.
Thanks!

HMMMMM...

Yeah, THANKS!!! LOL!!

44 posted on 06/26/2010 11:13:45 AM PDT by bigheadfred (I said free association. Not freely associate.)
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To: EternalVigilance

45 posted on 06/26/2010 11:21:05 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: EternalVigilance
A US Senate committee has approved a wide-ranging cybersecurity bill that some critics have suggested would give the US president the authority to shut down parts of the Internet during a cyberattack.

Read Glenn Beck's The Overton Window for a clear explanation of how this works.

46 posted on 06/26/2010 11:24:21 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: EternalVigilance

Once the Ocommie purges begin, the government doesn’t want details of this reported through that pesky internet. They know they can get newspapers and television to censor such reports but that danged internet is so unregulated.


47 posted on 06/26/2010 11:32:50 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Why put limits on this presidents power he will just ignore it anyway?


48 posted on 06/26/2010 11:43:06 AM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: EternalVigilance

give the US president the authority to shut down parts of the Internet during a cyberattack.” or civil unrest, national emergencies, elections,
“Well yes, my advisers and my cabinet would also be granted the authority.”


49 posted on 06/26/2010 11:44:46 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

There is no way anyone is going into the streets. American Idol, the Bachelor and Dancing with the Stars is what really matters. You were smart to get out and you’re in a great country now... much like what the US used to be like.


50 posted on 06/26/2010 11:54:58 AM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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