Posted on 07/03/2010 12:34:50 AM PDT by neverdem
Long considered a tool for fomenting socialist revolution in America, the "Cloward-Piven Strategy" was a sociopolitical theory developed by left-wing ivory tower-dwellers Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. I'm sure the foil hat-wearing adherents of this line of thinking will complain here about my oversimplification of the plan and general lack of nuance, but basically, it seeks to undermine the (American) government by overloading said government with dependents needing welfare.
The Cloward-Piven Strategy will fail because WTSHTF The American People will shrug off the fleas.
The scary part is when people that LOVE the dependence.....”just like your kids will never leave as long as the dinners are warm, and the sheets are changed occasionally” becomes acceptable and the norm. If you allow the kids to stay until the bank account is empty, the Visa is maxxed and your ability to support them is gone....they will naturally move on to another target....the US govt.
The scary part is when people that LOVE the dependence.....”just like your kids will never leave as long as the dinners are warm, and the sheets are changed occasionally” becomes acceptable and the norm. If you allow the kids to stay until the bank account is empty, the Visa is maxxed and your ability to support them is gone....they will naturally move on to another target....ANY govt agency. Whether US based, or worldwide. They don’t care which body they are feeding off of, as long as it is warm.
That is Cloward-Piven Theory. The author needs to research his subject before writing about it.
i don’t believe there is a timeline for C/P this could go forever or until the blamesters are booted in Nov
Not so easy. The kids will revolt ala Bill Ayers statement to “kill your parents”. They will then willingly await the handout they think they are entitled to. Natural attrition then follows as they are incapable of providing for themselves. It doesn’t matter if you have an Amex black card as it has no value. Violence ensues. Those that remain are grateful for their rice and beans. They comply and accept any “allowance” and believe that life is good.
I dunno. Everyone that I know that had a boomerang kid hates it. And the kids aren’t too happy either
There’s fewer of them than us. And we have the benefit of actual weapons training.
bflr
yep. When the shtf, we just need to sss.
Great little 17 ounce 2” inch .38 shooter my husband gave me for Mother’s Day. He had to get himself one to match. This is pathetic that we have come to this.
“The Cloward-Piven Strategy will fail because WTSHTF The American People will shrug off the fleas.”
yes you are right.
its the 4th tomorrow have a good one.
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The new candy store is funded by MASS MURDER. At least it has been in every other commie regime, including Adolph's!
"You're not going to be able to eat what you want, or as much of it."~B. Wacky Insane~0 on the campain trail.
Mass murder through starvation......Hello..... anybody listening....
If the demands on the state are so great that they force a breakdown of the existing bureaucracies, basically bankrupting the government, how in blazes is it then possible to further increase the size of government to provide everyone the same pay every year? It isn't.
the problem the author is having here is in looking at this as a socialist/communist does. They aren't just seeking to increase dependents so that more dependents can be added. They are seeking to overload the system so the entire government collapses...and then they will blame capitalism for the collapse they brought about and then will install their own system without the hindrance of capitalism and the constitution. The author isn't seeing the extent of the destruction sought be the cloward and piven agents.
People argue it won't work...well, it's been working, just look at the level of dependence coupled with the unfunded liabilities the US has now all tied to people's retirements. And then look at the riots in Greece. It can happen here...it likely will happen here.
How can you blame people for getting angry when they've paid into SS their whole lives and then won't be able to get anything out because the Ponzi scheme is failing, but they had counted on that money for their old age?
Where the Cloward and Piven agents are wrong, I believe, is that they will be the ones to pick up the pieces after they've destroyed the US. They apparently think that they will be in position to slip into the power vacuum and everyone will recognize them as a legitimate authority. I don't think it'll be so...they misjudge human nature and the craving for freedom in the face of the tyranny they seek to impose.
So the end will be, I think they will be successful in destroying the US, but they will fail in their attempt to take power. The result will be ugly.
The left and some members of the right are suffering from the same delusion. Communists in every country think the same way. Not all people in all cultures do. We have all heard the expression “American exceptionalism”, but has anyone actually thought about what that means?
Our exceptionalism doesn’t refer to the fact that we do everything better than just about everybody- although that is true. It is about the kind of “stock” we are. We aren’t a group descended from nobles OR peasants; we have never been raised to bow or bend a knee. When the left refers to the majority of us as “cowboys” or “rednecks” they do so without realizing the compliment they pay us. Our heroes and forefathers were rebels, frontiersmen, explorers and, yes, cowboys. Getting up and getting going are a character trait. The idea of one guy inventing a lightbulb in his basement or the microchip in his garage are “business as usual” in THIS country.
We are what we are, and that was lazy until recently. Cloward, Piven, Marx, Obama and all the rest of the disfunctional left can ONLY ultimately fail here. Americans will NOT be told that they “can’t” do this, or say that, or go there...not for long.
This I heartily believe.
As long as Americans are armed this will not happen - even though I can imagine someone trying it if they have the armed forces on their side - unlikely I would think!
Mel
““The Cloward-Piven Strategy will fail because WTSHTF The American People will shrug off the fleas.””
The strategy like all left wing revolutionary strategies is the equivalent of the dog catching the proverbial car.
“I caught it, now what?”
Actually it can’t go on forever. Maggie Thatcher had it right (God bless her) - Socialism works until you run out of other people’s money. Essentially, Liberalism and C/P are a massive ponzi scheme.
It is already happening. My small County has about a $135 million budget. The portion that actually goes to basic services like the sheriff, District Attorney, Libraries and internal government is only about $22 million, plus mandates of about $11 million = about $33 million. About $10 million goes to the Road Dept. The rest goes to welfare, CPS, child support, in home support for the aged, public health and mental health services.
This year, we had to cut most library services, the museum, a vital fire station, and sheriff’s office coverage in outlying areas. Year after next our road budget will be half what it is now because the Secure Schools and Communities Act money will lapse.
The point is that our government budget is being consumed by entitlements and services to basically the same bad actors while we can no longer afford basic services to the general public. Ther is something definitely wrong!
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