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Undocumented immigrants lose government aid
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | July 11, 2010 | Julia Lyon

Posted on 07/12/2010 4:57:35 AM PDT by Colofornian

At the beginning of July, more than 2,000 families with undocumented immigrants stopped receiving food stamp benefits due to a change in Utah’s rules. Now a growing number of them are showing up at emergency food pantries confused and needing help.

“But, of course, I have to feed my family,” said an undocumented mother of five who works as a housekeeper at a nursing home. She is among those who recently lost food aid.

Earlier this year, the state announced it would begin to fully count the income earned by all members of a household when determining food stamp eligibility. Previously, only a portion of undocumented immigrants’ income was counted in the food stamp calculation, due to the limitations of an old computer system.

That meant, in some prior cases, that a family with several undocumented members might qualify for food stamps although a family of native Utahns making the same amount of money might not.

“We believe this is fair and equitable across the board to treat all people equally when it comes to calculating the benefits that people get when they apply for food stamps,” said Curt Stewart, a spokesman for the state Department of Workforce Services, which oversees the food stamp program.

Despite the new rules, a blended family with children born in America and undocumented parents could still qualify for help if their income was low enough. The new computer-based eligibility system began July 1.

But the families who have showed up at Hildegarde’s Pantry at St. Mark’s Cathedral in Salt Lake City have not understood the bureaucratic changes and wonder if Americans are being given preference over them.

“I’m worried about running out of food,” said Lydia Herrera, the pantry director. “Everybody is complaining about that: ‘they cut my food stamps.’”

Because families received the final decision in mid- to late June, they were often not prepared for the financial hit. The housekeeper’s family normally received about $300 in food stamps each month. Now she plans to visit pantries more often seeking donated food.

“We need to eat right for the [children’s] health,” she said.

Not all pantries are reporting a bump in need from the Latino population. However, some pantries do not inquire about a family’s specific circumstances.

In addition to the 2,220 households that lost benefits, another group will qualify for fewer food stamp dollars now that their income is fully counted. The number in that group was not available from the Department of Workforce Services this week. The state had originally estimated that a total of almost 8,000 households could be affected by the food stamp rule change.

Gina Cornia, the executive director of the advocacy group Utahns Against Hunger, said organizations like hers or others should perhaps follow up with Latino families at pantries to see if the rule change is the reason they’re in need.

Even if they don’t qualify for food stamps, these remain poor, struggling families, she said.

“The failing of the food stamp program is that it doesn’t capture all the families that need help,” Cornia said. “If you make one dollar over, you’re not eligible.”

And not providing food stamps doesn’t mean these families’ needs are going to diminish, said state Sen. Luz Robles, D-Salt Lake City.

"The cost is going to shift somewhere else or there is going to be other social consequences of not having food for people,” she said.

Yet she recognized that Utahns of all backgrounds are struggling right now.

“I’m more concerned about the children,” Robles said. “The children are the ones who are impacted. They are the future in the nation.”


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To: Colofornian
a growing number of them are showing up at emergency food pantries confused and needing help

A map and a one-way bus ticket to Tijuana.

41 posted on 07/12/2010 6:06:56 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Colofornian

Blame the 14th Amendment and the way it has been perverted to allow anchor babies to be American citizens and to get free educations here. Without these two incentives this Mexican/Hispanic invasion would never have happened. Nothing wrong with legal immigrants in reasonable numbers but invasions are an attack on US sovereignty

Many of these immigrant families are a mix of legal and illegal. So if a few of their children were born on US soil then they and the whole family are entitled to food stamps and other welfare freebies that should only go to US citizens


42 posted on 07/12/2010 6:08:11 AM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: Colofornian
And not providing food stamps doesn’t mean these families’ needs are going to diminish, said state Sen. Luz Robles, D-Salt Lake City.

Has SLC become a hotbed of liberalism in an otherwise conservative state? WTH is going on there?

43 posted on 07/12/2010 6:08:40 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: concerned about politics

Why should I, sitting here in North Carolina, be forced at the point of a government gun to buy groceries for anyone in Utah illegal or not?


44 posted on 07/12/2010 6:12:51 AM PDT by csmusaret (A government that can dictate how much water flows into a toilet is a powerful government indeed.)
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To: sickoflibs

” The democrats now ( as with the amnesty RINOs before them ) keep telling us that we need to get illegals in the system so they pay taxes. What taxes are they talking about? Do they mean so illegals can get tax credit welfare checks? “

Y E S !!!!


45 posted on 07/12/2010 6:13:35 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Colofornian
Undocumented Illegal immigrants. This "undocumented" garbage really ticks me off!! What BS!!
46 posted on 07/12/2010 6:19:08 AM PDT by greatplains
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To: Liz; AuntB

PING


47 posted on 07/12/2010 6:31:46 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: greatplains

Illegal aliens


48 posted on 07/12/2010 6:32:25 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Colofornian
The Title of this article is inflammatory and inaccurate!
49 posted on 07/12/2010 6:35:01 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: Colofornian
Now a growing number of them are showing up at emergency food pantries confused and needing help.

Hand them a map and point them south.

50 posted on 07/12/2010 6:42:07 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: Colofornian

It’s time to send the citizens home with their noncitizen parents. It happens ALL the time to foreign military personnel here for training whose wives give birth while in the US.


51 posted on 07/12/2010 6:57:57 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: Tennessee Nana; AuntB; DontTreadOnMe2009; Balata; JDoutrider; stephenjohnbanker; TommyDale; ...
Ariz Gov. Jan Brewer has activated a task force that is matching active warrants against every applicant and recipient of state aid, of any kind. (NOTE: In LA alone warrants for murder indicate 82% go to illegals).

One Arizona town owed the county $1.2 million dollars for educating students who did NOT live in Arizona. The illegals had filed falsified documents using fake addresses. They actually lived in MEXICO, and were coming across the border every day to get free education, school breakfasts and lunches, school supplies, etc, etc, etc..........all financed by US taxpayers.

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REFERENCE---HERITAGE FOUNDATION Center for Immigration Studies: 53% of all immigrant households (legal and illegal) with children use welfare services. Low-skilled immigrant households (about 60% are legal and 40% are illegal) pay $10,573 in all taxes per year. However, these same households receive, on average, $30,160 in government benefits each year. This means that each low-skilled immigrant household costs American taxpayers nearly $20,000 each year!

Each American citizen pays approximately $330 each year to provide less-educated immigrant households with government services. Due to America’s out-of-control immigration, immigrants who have arrived since 1990 and their U.S.-born children account for 75% of the growth in the population lacking insurance in the United States. To a very significant extent, our health insurance crisis is being driven by immigration polices.

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RIDING THE US GRAVY TRAIN---THE SAGA OF PEDRO An illegal alien w/ wife and five children violates our borders. He gets a job mowing loans for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that low wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, so each year, he files an Income Tax Return to get "EITC---earned income credit" of up to $3,200 scot-free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent. He qualifies for food stamps and no deductible, no co-pay free health care. His children get free school breakfasts and lunches. The kids qualify for monthly SSI checks by faking ADD; the illegal and his wife get SSI by faking being aged, blind or disabled; SSI qualifies them for Medicare.

Plus illegals don't have to worry about pricey items like car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance, and they qualify for relief from high energy bills.

ALL OF THAT IS COLLECTED WITH JUST ONE IDENTITY

DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR OBAMACARE It is presently against the law to refuse healthcare to illegals. Illegal aliens actually bump US citizens for healthcare. Mexico, the country that is the staging area for illegal invasions, has long-promoted America’s generous public health centers.

Mexico operates Ventanillas de Salud---a Spanish-language program---in about 12 US cities that refers its nationals on US soil illegally---to clinics where they can get free medical care without being turned over to immigration authorities.”

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Illegal Jose Madrigal, the Washington state rapist, had some 30 identities.

EACH FAKE IDENTITY COLLECTS US GOVT FREEEBIES,
--- AND AS EVERY DESPERATE DEMOCRAT KNOWS ---
EACH FAKE IDENTITY VOTES AND VOTES AND VOTES

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Evidence shows illegals establish several identities with phony SS nos and fake documents (which these "poor immigrants" buy from document brokers for several thousand dollars). Illegals also get their anchor babies SS nos. They then use the SS nos to establish fake identities.

The Obama admin continues to tolerate this ntl-security nightmare of illegals using multiple identities for fear of offending the Mexican government, the National Council of La Raza, and other immigrant advocates....all of whom are providing Democrat voters to endangered Dems. This outrage is burdening taxpayers and polluting our election system----b/c these criminals adopt multiple fraudulent identities.

52 posted on 07/12/2010 6:59:08 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Colofornian
Undocumented immigrants

I believe the meant to say Illegal Aliens. And cry me a river that the illegal, law breaking a**hats aren't getting food stamps. Let them go back to where ever they come from and get food stamps there.

53 posted on 07/12/2010 7:10:09 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Doogle

Astonishing.

regards,


54 posted on 07/12/2010 7:15:41 AM PDT by Thunder 6
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To: Liz

” The Obama admin continues to tolerate this ntl-security nightmare of illegals using multiple identities for fear of offending the Mexican government, the National Council of La Raza, and other immigrant advocates....all of whom are providing Democrat voters to endangered Dems. This outrage is burdening taxpayers and polluting our election system——b/c these criminals adopt multiple fraudulent identities. “

EXACTLY!


55 posted on 07/12/2010 7:15:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Colofornian
...wonder if Americans are being given preference over them.

Imagine!! The horror!!!

56 posted on 07/12/2010 7:22:53 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: Liz

Fox is running a poll about whether the flag should be banned in schools in order not to inflame Hispanic students. The poll is being sandbagged by SEIU and we should mount a counter action if you agree with me that the flag should be taken down for no one.

Just in case you haven’t heard yet Fox News has a “Poll-Should the Flag Be Banned at Schools?”

Moveon.org, Organizing for America , and SEIU have been twittering today to go to Fox Poll and vote to ban the Flag .... and right now it is working.

SHOW THEM WHAT TRUE PATRIOTS BELIEVE!!! Let’s flip those numbers and show those who would ban the flag that we are organized and on the move....flip the numbers now-FLIP THE HOUSE in November!

GO HERE NOW: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/05/06/american-flag-banned-america/

..........and then pass it along!


57 posted on 07/12/2010 7:52:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Grampa Dave; stephenjohnbanker; TommyDale; NFHale; Travis McGee; AuntB; mkjessup; NormsRevenge; ...
Fox News Poll "Should the Flag Be Banned at Schools?” is being sandbagged on Twitter by Moveon.org, Organizing for America, and SEIU ........ and, right now, it is working.

SHOW THEM WHAT TRUE PATRIOTS BELIEVE!!! Let’s flip those numbers and show those who would ban the flag that we are organized and on the move....

PASS IT ALONG Flip the numbers now (and FLIP THE HOUSE in November).

GO HERE TO SUPPORT THE FLAG http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/05/06/american-flag-banned-america/


58 posted on 07/12/2010 8:09:30 AM PDT by Liz
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To: ScottinVA
Has SLC become a hotbed of liberalism in an otherwise conservative state? WTH is going on there?

Answer: yes. Look at how SLC city council last November passed special minority class status in employment and housing for homosexuals/various “sexual orientations”: Headline: Mormon church supports Salt Lake City's protections for gay rights

Forbes Magazine just did a column on Salt Lake City’s redevelopment in downtown (June 29, 2010):

”Although Utah remains the church's central base--over 70% of the state population is Mormon--the biggest increase has been outside the U.S., predominately in Latin America and parts of east Asia. This reality is reflected in Salt Lake itself; once overwhelmingly white, its population is now some 30% minority, much of it Latino.” Source: Salt Lake City's Sacred Space

Crunch these numbers: 30% of SLC is Latino…the vast majority of them NOT Lds. I mean, even if 1 out of 10 SLC Latinos were Mormon, that’s still only 3% of the city. (I doubt it’s even close to that high).

Then, Forbes columnist Kotkin also says: Mormons, who make up half of the city population and the vast majority of those in the surrounding suburbs… Source: Salt Lake City's Sacred Space

So, if 50% of SLC is Mormon; and 30% is Latino…that’s still a figure where about 70% of whites in SLC are Mormon. Yet, still look at how liberal SLC has become despite those numbers!

59 posted on 07/12/2010 8:30:48 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: calex59
I believe the meant to say Illegal Aliens. And cry me a river that the illegal, law breaking a**hats aren't getting food stamps.

The article implies most illegals are still getting food stamps. What it says is that they are finally being treated like Utahns of any color who are legal.

60 posted on 07/12/2010 8:33:15 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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