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Democrats and AARP want to make IRA enrollment automatic
The Hill ^ | July 12, 2010 | Walter Alarkon

Posted on 07/13/2010 6:09:05 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

The White House and congressional Democrats, with the backing of the AARP, will soon put forth a plan to automatically enroll new private-sector employees in investment retirement accounts (IRAs).

The measure will apply to new workers at firms that don’t currently offer 401(k) retirement plans, according to AARP, the lobby group for seniors. Workers would have the choice of opting out of the accounts.



The Obama administration sees the auto-enrollment system as a way to increase savings.

“There’s this inertia that keeps people from taking advantage of saving opportunities,” said Cristina Martin Firvida, the director of economic security in AARP’s government relations department. “It’s all sort of foundationally related to that, how people choose to save.”



Top officials in the administration, including White House Budget Director Peter Orszag, Treasury Department senior adviser Mark Iwry and Cass Sunstein, the administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, have long championed the opt-out provision. They point to studies that show the arrangement leads to big increases in savings by workers.



Like other employer-based retirement accounts, the opt-out accounts proposed by Democrats would have tax benefits. It’s unclear whether they will be traditional tax-deferred accounts or Roth-style vehicles, in which account holders don’t pay taxes on withdrawals. Iwry, a retirement savings expert, has preferred Roth accounts in the past.



Obama himself has publicly called for people to do more saving for retirement.



“The fact is, even before this recession hit, the savings rate was essentially zero, while borrowing had risen and credit card debt had increased,” Obama said last September. “Half of America’s workforce doesn’t have access to a retirement plan at work. And fewer than 10 percent of those without workplace retirement plans have one of their own.”



Rep. Richard Neal (D-Mass.) and Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) have introduced similar IRA proposals in the past.



The auto-enrollment provision will get pushback from small-business groups.



“It’s another burden placed on business that’s coming from Washington, keeping business owners from hiring and investing,” said Bill Rys, the tax counsel for the National Federation of Independent Business. “They’re being told, ‘Here’s how you run your business.’ ”

Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/108319-dems-aarp-want-to-make-ira-enrollment-automatic


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AARP in bed with the democrats to find more ways to steal money. You can bet the government will skim their share off somewhere.
1 posted on 07/13/2010 6:09:07 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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yup and we dont stand a chance against them ...the party of NO doesnt know the meaning of the word...


2 posted on 07/13/2010 6:11:18 AM PDT by dalebert
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3 posted on 07/13/2010 6:11:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: Second Amendment First

more control


4 posted on 07/13/2010 6:12:01 AM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....PLEASE donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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Lemme guess... the money would go directly into accounts at an AARP-owned bank, right? Nothing could POSSIBLY GO WRONG with that!

Of course, the left conveniently misses the easiest way to encourage savings. QUIT TAXING INCOME!

5 posted on 07/13/2010 6:13:36 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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The Obama administration sees the auto-enrollment system as a way to increase savings.

Obama and the AARP actually see this as a new source of funds that will be seized, as will all existing 401K and IRA funds in the near future under the guise of Guaranteed Retirement Accounts (just more cash for the government to amass more power.)

6 posted on 07/13/2010 6:13:38 AM PDT by Washi
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To: Second Amendment First
My Tax adviser, for the first time,
is recommending converting IRA’s / 401K’s to Roths
in expectation of higher incremental tax rates
beginning next year.
7 posted on 07/13/2010 6:14:03 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Second Amendment First

I “opted out” of AARP in the early ‘90s when they were pushing “Hillary care.” I’ve never regretted my departure from that malignant organization.


8 posted on 07/13/2010 6:14:50 AM PDT by davisfh
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If the AARP is for it, I am against it.


9 posted on 07/13/2010 6:15:18 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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Irish Republican Army?

What they supposed to do, blow themselves up???

10 posted on 07/13/2010 6:15:57 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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Obama and the AARP actually see this as a new source of funds that will be seized, as will all existing 401K and IRA funds in the near future under the guise of Guaranteed Retirement Accounts (just more cash for the government to amass more power.

All true.

11 posted on 07/13/2010 6:17:31 AM PDT by ILS21R (A 200 year supply of oil... in Alaska....right now)
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"The Obama administration sees the auto-enrollment system as a way to increase STEAL your savings. "

So long as citizens pay their law-required taxes, their private income and money/savings are no business of the Government...OR the marxist AARP.

The AARP offers little hotel and insurance "discounts" in exchange for helping their democrat pals steal you blind on the other end.

If you're a member, resign...if not, don't join. They are an arm of the obama regime out to take your money in exchange for a few paltry discounts here and there. You can save more money clipping coupons.
12 posted on 07/13/2010 6:17:51 AM PDT by FrankR ( If we don't stand up to tyranny, the tyrants win, and we're enslaved.)
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To: Doogle

Stop, just stop, enough, really I’m not sure anymore I want to live in a country where we have our hand held from cradle to grave and are taxed to death at a young age.

These*&^%$r’s khow how to suck the fun and the life out of everything.


13 posted on 07/13/2010 6:19:30 AM PDT by VTenigma
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To: Diogenesis

Perfect image. It goes back in every postage paid envelope from AARP and affiliates.


14 posted on 07/13/2010 6:19:47 AM PDT by Second Amendment First ("Stripping motivated people of their dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea.")
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People are too stupid to know how to save money.

The government has to do it for them. So they can steal it and spend it.

15 posted on 07/13/2010 6:20:06 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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Let me guess...this needs to happen ..so government can claim more regulatory oversight of IRA’s..once they are “government mandated” ...basically an mechanism of snooping and controlling.


16 posted on 07/13/2010 6:21:40 AM PDT by mo
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AARP in bed with the democrats to find more ways to steal money. You can bet the government will skim their share off somewhere.

SAF...

They want to supplant 401(k)'s etc with what they are calling if my memory s correct a GPA i.e. Gov' t Preferred Annuity or some such rubbish. Esentially a sister program to Social Security with a guaranteed rate of return of 3% (rule of 72's means it would take 24 years to double {epic fail}) and they get if 50% when you die.

Yes this give them a bigger pool for when they "nudge" us into this scheme.....

17 posted on 07/13/2010 6:24:15 AM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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I have to wonder...

Aren't the Dimocrats the same party that is looking at nationalizing all existing IRA accounts? There has been a year long thread about proposals, which haven't gone anywhere (yet), along that line.

Now they want everyone to have a mandatory IRA?

What has happened, in Argentina, where these two trends merged?

Remember, a century ago Argentina was one of the wealthiest nations in the world. Then came the Peron’s (sp?) and their socialist programs. Look where Argentina is today.

Who says there is no proof of our worries?

18 posted on 07/13/2010 6:24:38 AM PDT by Nip (Islam - a religion of piece (your head and life). Truth depends on the spelling)
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Ruh Roh

anything the govt makes “mandatory” the govt will claim a stake in.... perhaps having these “mandatory” IRA’s managed by “minority” run investment firms- Franklin Raines anyone?


19 posted on 07/13/2010 6:25:29 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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Who says there is no proof of our worries?

Hey, but we may get farther in the World Cup. /s

20 posted on 07/13/2010 6:28:43 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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