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'Journolist' Affair Worse Than Clinton Conspiracy
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Posted on 07/23/2010 11:54:37 PM PDT by Def Conservative

Today's journalism scandal involving liberal media members of the invitation-only "Journolist" listserv discussing ways to help 2008 presidential candidate Barack Obama or discredit his press critics is far more organized than the Clinton era "vast right-wing media conspiracy," according to former Clinton aides.

While the two media conspiracies have been compared since the listserv E-mails started appearing on the Daily Caller website, former Clinton aides say that there is one major difference between the two. Unlike the current scandal, reporters with conservative media back in the 1990s were competitive and didn't share story ideas.

What's more, the Journolist affair threatens to further undermine media credibility, especially with Republican organizations who tell us that they are reconsidering their relationship with reporters and news organizations on the Journolist listserv that was taken down when it became public.

"Do I think that there are potential issues with that if you get people trying to take particular positions and organize them because that ultimately undermines the objectivity of the media and the sense of independence, yeah," says former Clinton aide Chris Lehane.

(Excerpt) Read more at politics.usnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demagogicparty; ezraklein; journolist; media; memebuilding; obama; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; spencerackerman
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To: huldah1776

Sam Zell bought the Tribune but it turned out to be a bad deal. Business principles and liberal media/propaganda dissemination are mutually exclusive goals.


21 posted on 07/24/2010 4:06:36 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Shakey Jake said, " The hippies will never survive!")
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To: Def Conservative

bump


22 posted on 07/24/2010 4:07:17 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: Def Conservative

Once again, instead of admitting it’s a Democrat thing, they pull in Republicans, accusing of things that didn’t happen....


23 posted on 07/24/2010 4:45:29 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Def Conservative
Today's journalism scandal involving liberal media members of the invitation-only "Journolist" listserv discussing ways to help 2008 presidential candidate Barack Obama or discredit his press critics is far more organized than the Clinton era "vast right-wing media conspiracy," according to former Clinton aides.

Well of course it's far more organized, considering the vast right-wing media conspiracy DIDN'T EXIST, was a figment of Hillary Clinton's imagination. Good grief.

24 posted on 07/24/2010 4:50:12 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Def Conservative

Oh please.

Lies and misrepresentations from the media are rooted in American history going back to the NYSlimes printing FAVORABLE articles about Nazi Germany.


25 posted on 07/24/2010 4:55:38 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Brytani

I think a lot of hillary supporters and hillary herself are probably just as pissed off realizing what a fraud was perpetrated on the public by these commies and the chirf pied piper obama himself.


26 posted on 07/24/2010 5:06:54 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: Carley
Lies and misrepresentations from the media are rooted in American history going back to the NYSlimes printing FAVORABLE articles about Nazi Germany.

Lies and misrepresentations from the media predate NYT's favorable articles about Nazi Germany by more than 200 years. The media nowadays is tame compared to what it was in the time of this nation's founding. Outright slander in those days was common.....

27 posted on 07/24/2010 5:10:13 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Def Conservative
Speaking of Chris Lehane, from 2000....

'Pearl Harbor Politics' Who's behind the Bush DUI story?

28 posted on 07/24/2010 5:13:58 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 250 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: Def Conservative

Frankly...if any of these clowns really knows WHO the ‘Bamster is...and that he is an unqualified presidential candidate, their collusion with the DNC to elect him, would make them and their organizations liable for fraud.


29 posted on 07/24/2010 5:33:14 AM PDT by mo
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To: huldah1776

I don’t understand why conservative businessmen don’t get into media. Who or what is stopping them?

They are out there creating jobs, producing wealth for themselves and others and building this society.


30 posted on 07/24/2010 6:06:38 AM PDT by HChampagne (I am not an AARP member and never will be.)
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To: Def Conservative

No comparison. The vast right-wing conspiracy was actually the gang that couldn’t shoot straight.


31 posted on 07/24/2010 6:16:49 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: Def Conservative

Chris Lehane.....A VILE voice from the past.


32 posted on 07/24/2010 6:48:28 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mewzilla

Asa I said....Chris Lehane is VILE....and EVIL.


33 posted on 07/24/2010 6:49:52 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Bill, Hillie, and Barry remind me of three scorpions in a bottle...


34 posted on 07/24/2010 6:51:37 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 250 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: Def Conservative
US News and World Report reporter Paul Betard wrote this story.

Bet he is one of the 400 on the Journolist!

Talk about the fox guarding the hen house! They get to not only be part of the scandal, but also be part of the cover up.

Note how they say the Journolist was made up of mostly columnists. Columnists are paid to have opinions. But not straight news reporters. The lie here is that these Journolist conspirators weren't straight news reporters. But they were! Many of them. And THEREIN lies the scandal.

Posing for your readers and viewers as a "just the facts" reporter while conspiring to smear Republicans and support democrats is just plain fraud. Even if only a small percentage overall were straight news reporters, it is a terrible thing to do and stabs the credibility of the media right in the heart. Who can you trust to tell the truth? Not any reporter who was on Journolist! Since they won't release the list of names of who was, we can only conclude that any reporter was.

But they'll do whatever they can to mislead the reader away from that honest and despicable conclusion.

35 posted on 07/24/2010 7:05:58 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: huldah1776
Why should a new businessman invest in a dying market?

The physical plant required to support a traditional media outlet, print, voice, or video, is massive. Plus you have to be willing to lose money for years before you show a profit.

But, conservative businessmen (well actually women) are getting into the media world. They are bypassing the physical media and going directly digital. That is why the liberal/progressive/socialist/democrats want to put a “kill switch” on the Internet.

36 posted on 07/24/2010 7:09:02 AM PDT by Nip (Arizona Immigration Law - the case heard around the world!)
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To: Thermalseeker
The problem today is that sometime during the 1920’s onward, the media started to sell itself as non-partisan and unbiased; simple honest men who only wanted the truth to get out. The Associated Press was the main culprit in this, and they have spent the last 80 years trying to convince us that this is so.

You know your history well, but the last several decades of media manipulation was done under the guise of the myth of the “honest reporter”, set forth by Hollywood in the 1930s and 40s and people like Edward R Murrow, Walter Cronkite, and David Brinkley.

Most Americans in the last half of the 20th Century fell for it, and we're still suffering the ramifications today. It would be far, far better for us if we did go back to the openly partisan coverage of yesteryear. The modern myth is a great falsehood!

37 posted on 07/24/2010 7:13:15 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Carley

and before that....Stalin


38 posted on 07/24/2010 7:15:04 AM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: Def Conservative

Chris Lehane is the most honest of the people interviewed for this story. He specifically says the JournoList is fundamentally more dangerous than the alleged VRWC.

On another note, I do believe there should be a grassroots outcry for Republicans to refuse interviews or contacts with the media outlets who had their staff represented in the JournoList. If those staffers are not reprimanded (at the least) or fired, no interviews.

This is amazingly corrupt: The American media conspired to elect a president they refused to investigate (by investigating and falsely accusing anyone who would even look at BHO’s background).

Hitler would be so proud of Ezra Klein as would Stalin.


39 posted on 07/24/2010 7:19:07 AM PDT by comps4spice (The JournaList committed a conspiracy to elect BH Obama.)
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To: comps4spice
Don't believe Lehane for a SECOND!!

THE VWLC was 100 times more powerful in the 90's than the VWRC; they lied to get Clinton elected much like the MSM did for Obama.

Lehane is EVIL and Hillary would be worse than Obama because she works more slowly and isn't so obvious about what she is doing. BEWARE, BEWARE, BEWARE.

40 posted on 07/24/2010 8:12:34 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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