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IIRC, wasn't improvement of public schools supposed to be Bloomberg's signature issue?
1 posted on 08/01/2010 7:04:55 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

It’s easy to do well when you fudge the numbers.


2 posted on 08/01/2010 7:07:46 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: neverdem

Single payer schools work so well, I can hardly wait for single payer health care.


6 posted on 08/01/2010 7:15:21 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: neverdem
Sorry to say, but these tests and results for a public school (indoctrination center) are constantly dropping because the education is constantly dropping.

The only kids now getting a “fair to good” education are the Asian kids with driven parents, or the kids that go to top private schools that take high achievers.

Anyone over age of 40 probably got in at the tail end of good public education. Everyone else, it is pure luck if you can get a good or even fair education.

7 posted on 08/01/2010 7:18:45 PM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com)
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To: neverdem

81 to 18!!!
Just....... wow.


8 posted on 08/01/2010 7:21:21 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: neverdem

Unfortunately, about all it means when we hear of improvements on standardized test scores is that either the tests have been greatly dumbed down, or the administrators and teachers have been involved in widespread cheating to up their students’ scores.


11 posted on 08/01/2010 7:31:54 PM PDT by Will88
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To: neverdem

Being a liberal means not having to worry about reality, emotions are all that matters. Doing badly? Here, take an easier test.


13 posted on 08/01/2010 7:40:36 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: neverdem

This seems to be a state testing, so Bloomberg isn’t that involved. It’s probably residual from the Pataki days, just taking effect.

It’s not that the kids did any worse this year, but that the standards were so much higher and scoring tougher. If scored as they were in the past they’d be the same. Ignorant, but happy about it, with tons of self-esteem !

This is a good thing, long term. Over the years, the standards were lowered to a kid’s having literacy if s/he could spell his/her name. If they could spell the teacher’s name they were ‘gifted.’ Now they have stricter standards that are going to have to be met, at the sacrifice of some social engineering programs.


15 posted on 08/01/2010 7:46:16 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: neverdem
Bloomie and Klein has claimed great success in education using the scores the last seven exams. They've been the poster boys for how to turn education around. It's all been a fraud.

In the last 8 years I've prepped these exams, proctored them, corrected them and they were and are bogus.They test skills that are only tangential to real life and learning. The exams are graded by teachers either relieved from teaching duties or paid per session after school. The only quality control usually results in a score being raised. The state sets a numerical standard each year for the magical 4 3 2 1 grades and that score is not rigorous, and neither has been the exam. This year's exam was nomore difficult than past years but the state raised the scoring guideline. Next year the exam is to be more challenging. Bloomie and Klein will have a year to create new explanations for their failure.

17 posted on 08/01/2010 7:52:36 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: neverdem

Great example of the destructiveness of Govt intervention. No child left behind was supposed to be the answer. It had possibility but after a few years now the good is circumventable and the bad becomes the standard.


18 posted on 08/01/2010 7:53:52 PM PDT by HChampagne (I am not an AARP member and never will be.)
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To: neverdem

21 posted on 08/01/2010 8:04:42 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: neverdem

On the NY State Regents exam for Algebra, you only need to get half of the multiple-choice question right to pass, and not even bother with the 9 open-ended questions. This is make up for the fact that they asked some of the stupidest questions, and when you least expect it, ask several questions requiring depth of knowledge in minor Algebra topics that are usually glossed over because there’s over 100+ topics that need to be taught. That’s the curriculum for you: mile-wide, inches-deep.


28 posted on 08/01/2010 8:16:35 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (There is neither honesty, manhood nor good fellowship in thee.)
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To: neverdem
"As the plummeting scores sunk in..."

The article is, indeed, believable...

29 posted on 08/01/2010 8:18:12 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: neverdem
Nothing surprising here.

The various subgroups of students are all performing exactly as one expects them to do. And nothing is going to change that.

34 posted on 08/01/2010 8:31:43 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: neverdem
I remember taking the ACT test and the science portion was actually about environmental science.

One of the questions asked about the effects of pollution on the Black Forest in Germany.

We never once covered such material in school and I missed the question, lowering my score. I was ready for biology, physics, chemistry and such.

40 posted on 08/01/2010 9:01:52 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: neverdem

I’ve lived in School District 21 for most of my life and I’ve never heard of this school. Apparently it’s probably a stone’s throw away because Gravesend isn’t that big.


42 posted on 08/01/2010 10:34:19 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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To: neverdem

All this problem needs is MORE MONEY and MORE TEACHERS. /s


47 posted on 08/01/2010 11:15:49 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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Two things. 1) Check out "Freakonomics." The first part is about how Sumo wrestlers and teachers in Chicago cheat. Interesting reading. 2) I once had a kid in my 4th grade class who was brilliant. He could make connections with science and literature that were amazing. So outside the box, he needed a roadmap to get back in it. But homework? Phhh! Always let things slide, turned in stuff late, drove his parents crazy. I took a lot of his grades from the way he explained things and justified his take on it during discussions, and took what paperwork I could get. He joined the Marines, and got involved in cryptography or something like that. Neat kid, but all of us teachers who had him knew he needed to be handled differently, so we did.
48 posted on 08/01/2010 11:34:48 PM PDT by Othniel (Meddlng in human affairs for 1/20th of a millennium.......)
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Urban public schools are just a gang-ridden hot lunch program with diversity and self-esteem classes. Thanks neverdem.


62 posted on 08/03/2010 7:10:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: neverdem

Vouchers. How long with the government schools experiment be allowed to continue?

How many children do we need to lose?

It’s been a near century of failure.

Let the market work and let parents be parents.

In loco parentis is loco.


63 posted on 08/03/2010 7:20:50 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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