Skip to comments.Will Republicans Save Us?
Posted on 08/18/2010 5:52:58 AM PDT by Kaslin
Democrat control of the White House, House of Representatives and the Senate has produced an unprecedented level of political brazenness and contempt for the limitations placed on the federal government by the U.S. Constitution. As such, it has raised a level of constitutional interest and anger against Washington's interference in our lives that has been dormant for far too long.
Part of this heightened interest and anger is seen in the strength of the tea party movement around the nation. Another is the angry reception that many congressmen receive when they return to their districts and at town hall meetings. According to the most recent Gallup poll, only 20 percent of Americans approve of the job Congress is doing, but that's up from a March 2010 low of 16 percent.
The smart money suggests that there will be a Republican takeover of the House of Representatives and possibly the Senate. The question is what can liberty-minded Americans expect from a Republican majority? Maybe a good starting point for an answer might be to examine how Republicans have handled their majority in the past.
Democrat President Lyndon Johnson's term of office saw massive increases in federal spending. When Johnson was elected into office in 1964, federal spending was $118 billion. When he left office in 1968, federal spending was $178 billion, a 66 percent increase. Worse than the massive increase in federal spending, his administration and Democratically controlled Congress saddled us with two programs that have helped fuel today's fiscal disaster -- Medicare and Medicaid.
The 1994 elections gave Republican control of both the House and Senate. They held a majority for a decade. The 2000 election of George W. Bush as president gave Republicans what the Democrats have now, total control of the legislative and executive branches of government. When Bush came to office, federal spending was $1.788 trillion. When he left office, federal spending was $2.982 trillion. That's a 60 percent increase in federal spending, closely matching the profligacy of Lyndon Johnson's presidency.
During the Republican control, the nation was saddled with massive federal interference in education through No Child Left Behind. Prescription drug handouts became a part of the Republican-controlled Congress' legacy. And it was during this interval that Congress accelerated its interference, assisted by the Federal Reserve Bank, in the housing market in the name of homeownership that produced much of the financial meltdown that the nation suffered in 2008.
During the last two years, Democrats have amassed unprecedented growth of federal government power in the forms of bailouts, corporate takeovers, favors to their political allies and nationalization of our health care system. My question is how likely is it for Republicans to behave differently if they gain control? Their past behavior doesn't make one confident that they will behave much differently, but I could be wrong.
If Republicans win the House of Representatives, there are measures they should take in their first month of office, and that is to undo most of what the Democratically controlled Congress has done. If they don't win a veto-proof Senate, they can't undo Obamacare but the House alone can refuse to fund any part of it. There are numerous blocking tactics that a Republican-controlled House can take against those hell-bent on trampling on our Constitution. The question is whether they will have guts and principle to do it. After all, many Americans, including those who are Republicans, have a stake in big government control, special privileges and handouts.
Ultimately, we Americans must act to ensure that our liberty does not depend on personalities in Washington. Our founders tried to do that with our Constitution. Thomas Jefferson offered us a solution when he said, "The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then."
Dream on! It all depends on the political winds. Right now democrats cant escape blame and try as they might, are not getting points for running up debts without real job creation. Next year, who knows ? What we do know is Republicans are not telling us much about themselves(for obvious reasons). And Democrats don't want to talk about themselves either.
The answer will not be found in a political party, but in national repentance and return to the Creator God Who favored this country and its founding.
Have they saved us over the last 25 years?
We know Dems won’t stop spending. Throw the bums out and then hold their feet to the fire.
Pray for America
Uh..How do you think we got here?
Heck yes, we can rely on the GOP to bring conservatism back to America. Remember the last time the Republicans managed to wrest power from the Democrats? Murder of unborn children was banned, steps were taken to stop Islam encroaching on American culture, and the border with Mexico got reinforced against foreign invasion. Even now in opposition, the GOP is vigorously putting pressure on Obama to actually follow the Constitution and release his long form birth certificate.
“Islam is peace” - George W Bush
Do I sound bitter?
Dr. Williams, like me, believes that the 'Pubbies aren't going to ride up in shining armor on white chargers to save us. The Republican's history of controlling the Congress isn't what you would want to see on anyone's resume, ESPECIALLY that of the people we hope will save us from the communists.
But, Dr. Williams essentially lays the case in his last paragraph when he quotes Thomas Jefferson. If we want our cherished nation, Constitution and way of life restored, we're going to have to do our own heavy lifting. The "saviors" from the GOP ain't coming!
I remember what happened in 1994, just weeks after the November election. Newtie got a $4million book advance, and Rush carried his water. From what I read of the situation, it was legal, but IMO it stunk to high heaven. Newt's moral authority was diminished before he was ever handed the gavel.
Perhaps republicans will save us. Republicans are only interested in maintaining the political status quo and keeping themselves in power. The GOP is as culpable as the democrats.
“Will Republicans Save Us?”
The American people growing some huevos will save us, but not politicians—not a chance.
I got my “I told ya so!” ready for post November.
If Americans don’t light a fire under their arses, then all we’ll have is some shiny new politicians to show for our efforts at the ballot box.
This is entirely the wrong question to ask, and illustrates why there are so many FReepers who do stupid things like vote third party, and who are all the time whining about the Republicans.
Face it folks, NO POLITICIAN is going to "save" us. This idea that we just have to find the "right" magical special person who will then ride in on their white steed and set all our wrongs aright is simply ludicrous.
You want to know why we get sold down the river? Because WE don't do enough for ourselves. WE don't hold politicians' feet to the fire. WE don't exercise the oversight that we ought to be as citizens of an ostensibly representative republic. WE abrogate our own responsibilities, and then expect some white knight to come in and rescue us.
So, are the Republicans going to save us? No. But is whining about the Republicans going to save us, either? No. Is electing Republicans over Democrats going, in the aggregate, have a more positive effect on this country than continuing to run third party candidates to split the vote and put Dims into office? Yes. People, have some perspective.
OK, what party in your opinion, can save us? Please let me know
The punditocracy has recently been consumed with a debate over whether or not the Republicans will be able to repeal the recently-passed health care bill. Outside of self-professed conservative pundits, the conventional wisdom seems to be that the odds are prohibitively against repeal (or significant modification).
This Politico article typifies the attitude of those who doubt that repeal can be effectuated. It argues that the current outrage over the health care bill is merely a part of a "familiar pattern since New Deal days: Government programs from Social Security to Medicare that were launched amid incendiary arguments within a short time became sacrosanct - protected by a bipartisan consensus that was nowhere to be found at passage."
This is certainly one possible outcome for the President's health care bill, but it isn't the only one. Here is why repeal is a real possibility. 1. This bill is substantively different than Social Security and Medicare.
My colleague Jay Cost made a critical point a few days ago: Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson made use of an ingenious social insurance system - promoting the idea that we all pay in today to take out tomorrow. It was consistent with American individualism. It was simple. It was intuitive. It was bipartisan.
Obama's new system has none of those virtues. This feature is what makes repealing or substantially modifying Social Security and/or Medicare so difficult. They are entitlements that are broadly given to the middle class, who also pays for them. To the extent these programs are redistributive, that redistribution is largely hidden. Everyone, from the poorest member of society to Bill Gates, has some stake in Social Security and Medicare.(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
The Constitution is the limiting document upon the feds; the federal government cannot become greater than the granting power. That is, the federal servant cannot become greater than its master........the states.
.......according to judicial analyst, and judge, Andrew P. Napolitano healthcare reforms amount to "commandeering" the state legislatures for federal purposes, which the Supreme Court has forbidden as unconstitutional. "The Constitution does not authorize the Congress to regulate state governments.
Nevertheless, the Congress has told the state governments that they must modify their regulation of certain areas of healthcare, they must surrender their regulation of other areas of healthcare, and they must spend state taxpayer-generated dollars in a way that the Congress wants it done.(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com............
Have they saved us yet? Didn’t think so.
Will be back around 5:00pm CDT to read post.
I have contempt for the notion that the US Constitution places limitations on federal power. The results are in. The Constitution creates virtually unlimited power.
If we admit this Consolidated Government it will be because we like a great splendid one. Some way or other we must be a great and mighty empire; we must have an army, and a navy, and a number of things: When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, Sir, was then the primary object. We are descended from a people whose Government was founded on liberty: Our glorious forefathers of Great-Britain, made liberty the foundation of every thing. That country is become a great, mighty, and splendid nation; not because their Government is strong and energetic; but, Sir, because liberty is its direct end and foundation: We drew the spirit of liberty from our British ancestors; by that spirit we have triumphed over every difficulty:
But now, Sir, the American spirit, assisted by the ropes and chains of consolidation, is about to convert this country to a powerful and mighty empire: If you make the citizens of this country agree to become the subjects of one great consolidated empire of America, your Government will not have sufficient energy to keep them together: Such a Government is incompatible with the genius of republicanism:
There will be no checks, no real balances, in this Government: What can avail your specious imaginary balances, your rope-dancing, chain-rattling, ridiculous ideal checks and contrivances?
Patrick Henry, June 5th, 1788
"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
The Republican Party won't save us any more than the Democratic Party. They've all been bought off.
It will take at least 300 citizen-legislators to save this country, courageous people that will abide by the Constitution and reduce the scope of government in our lives.
WRT forcing O'Care on America---WH jerkoff David Axelrod said : "Americans Are Too Stupid To Care About Congressional Procedures"......
According to this idiot Axelrod, Ohaha was retreating from earlier demands that sweetheart deals be removed. Ohaha forced the bill down the throats of Americans by renegging on his word A-G-A-I-N.....by letting $$special deal$$ for $$enators Landrieu, Chris Dodd Max Baucus (who later renounced his deal) remain in the bill. SOURCE: associatedcontent.com ...
States Can Check Washington's Power; by directly proposing constitutional amendments
WSJ 12/21/09 | DAVID B. RIVKIN JR. AND LEE A. CASEY
FR Posted 12/2/09 by rhema
For nearly a hundred years, federal power has expanded at the expense of the statesto a point where the even the wages and hours of state employees are subject to federal control. Basic health and safety regulations that were long exercised by states under their "police power" are now dominated by Washington.
The courts have similarly distorted the Constitution by inventing new constitutional rights and failing to limit governmental power as provided for in the document. The aggrandizement of judicial power has been a particularly vexing challenge, since it is inherently incapable of correction through the normal political channels.
There is a way to deter further constitutional mischief from Congress and the federal courts, and restore some semblance of the proper federal-state balance. That is to give to statesand through them the peoplea greater role in the constitutional amendment process.
The idea is simple, and is already being mooted in conservative legal circles. Today, only Congress can propose constitutional amendmentsand Congress of course has little interest in proposing limits on its own power. Since the mid-19th century, no amendment has actually limited federal authority.
But what if a number of states, acting together, also could propose amendments? That has the potential to reinvigorate the states as a check on federal power. It could also return states to a more central policy-making role.
The Framers would have approved the idea of giving states a more direct role in the amendment process. They fully expected that the possibility of amendments originating with the states would deter federal aggrandizement, and provided in Article V that Congress must call a convention to consider amendments anytime two-thirds of the states demand it.(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
Randy Barnett: The Case for a Federalism Amendment
Clarence Thomas: How to Read the Constitution
There's a saying in Republican politics: when your opponent is committing political suicide, it's not polite to step in and help him.
I have my own philosophy. When you see your enemy falling, put a banana peel under his feet.
???? First you talk about holding Republicans feet to the fire. Then you tell us to stop complaining about Republicans. Then it appears you tell us elected Republicans will give us better 'results' than Democrats. Well, if your point is that Republicans must always be elected and we must support them blindly, whoever they are, so we must close our eyes and ears, then there is no holding their feet to the fire.
I saw some conservatives 'holding Bush's feet to the fire' in 2007 and 2008, it didnt work out too well. It was a complete party meltdown.
Mmmmm........effective of course.
But sounds too much like a Dem tactic (ugh).
Bears repeating with appropriate emphasis.
Correct, and they really do seem to like it that way.
And it is fun to watch too!
No they won’t save us, nor will the constitution ...
Once trust is lost it's almost impossible to get it back! Actions not words work for me.
No - republicans, as a brand, will not save us. They will only walk more slowly towards the same goals as the democrats. We need candidates interested in upholding the Constitution and representing the people who voted them into office. And we need a population constantly engaged in all the political processes, with a sharp eye for corruption. Then we need a true media - one not paid for by either party. Finally, and most importantly, what will save us is a true revival and for God to withhold His judgment upon this nation for a while longer.
Every day in every way Ohaha helps Americans understand that he shares nothing in common with them, and does not have the perspective of an American experience.
It gets even more politically dismal, thanks to his globe-trotting wife. Dem candidates don't want Ohaha campaigning with them so Plan B was to send Michele out (all rested and refreshed from lolling around Marbella).
We can only hope the Dems are stupid enough to have Mrs O campaign for them, maybe wearing her one-shoulder Jean Paul Gaultier top.
Images of Michele campaigning for Democrat (cough) values will reinforce the notion of Dems as an elite class with unmitigated contempt for working class Americans.
” There are numerous blocking tactics that a Republican-controlled House can take against those hell-bent on trampling on our Constitution. The question is whether they will have guts and principle to do it. After all, many Americans, including those who are Republicans, have a stake in big government control, special privileges and handouts “
I’ll believe it when I see it.
We'll save ourselves if we'll be saved at all.
ROFL. I was going to question the exact same thing.
Attempts to hold their feet to the fire are described as "whining about the Republicans."
The Chinese and Koreans are already making with the Marie Antoinette jokes. You yube.
I asked you over an hour ago what party can save us and so far no answer from you, just like I figured.
Yeah, saw it.
“Heck yes, we can rely on the GOP to bring conservatism back to America. Remember the last time the Republicans managed to wrest power from the Democrats? Murder of unborn children was banned, steps were taken to stop Islam encroaching on American culture, and the border with Mexico got reinforced against foreign invasion. Even now in opposition, the GOP is vigorously putting pressure on Obama to actually follow the Constitution and release his long form birth certificate.”
Well done. You had me for a second.
Yes, and I believe that the Republican nominee for President in 2012 could be a stealth Democrat.
Yes, Mitch McC is known for winking at Democrat programs. He knows what it takes to win in KY anyway.
Have some perspective?
Good Lord man, have you not noticed how far to the left our nation has drifted under Republican as well as Democrat leadership?
You sit there and type that no Republican is going to save us, and then add in that voting in Republicans is the only sane thing to do.
You see no conflict there at all do you.
Then you polish this road apple off with, “...have some perspective.” Seriously?
You gave this a lot of thought didn’t you. /s
Don’t hold their feet too close to the fire. Just make it close enough to ensure that their tootsies are warm and comfortable while the grapes are being peeled.
” Yes, and I believe that the Republican nominee for President in 2012 could be a stealth Democrat. “
Yeah, that worked so well for us in 2008 ;-)
bump yer bump...
Mitch has to go, or else I see no change for the better.