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Myths, Legends, & Misconceptions of the Wolf
ChicoER Gate ^ | 8/21/10 | T. R. Mader

Posted on 08/21/2010 12:08:13 PM PDT by Tom Hawks

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I and others have written extensively about the wolf reintroduction program and the destruction it has caused since the first 60 were released into Yellowstone Park and Idaho in 1995. What we are attempting to do with these articles is to wake up as many people as possible about the danger the left has put Americans in.

There is a Wolf Cult in America that has convinced many Americans that it would be a good thing to have wild wolves as neighbors in our local parks. Well I for one, and many like me, do not wish to be confronted by a wolf when we decide to go fishing or camping. Especially since the wolves that are being introduced into our parks, like to roam in packs. So if you see one you can bet the farm there are more lurking around near by.

Gate was given permission to post, in whole, an article written by T. R. Mader, the Research Director of AWS which is an independent research organization. Mader has researched wolf history for more than 15 years before he wrote this article. He has since traveled extensively as he continues conducting research and interviews on environmental issues.

Mader wrote this article at the height of furor over the wolf re-introduction program in 1995 & 96. It's my hope that by posting this, many of you will have a better understanding of the anger many ranchers, farmers, hunters, and even regular small town city folk have with a program that has proved to be everything those against the program warned about some 15 years ago.

Due to the length of the article, it has been divided into three parts, and instead of creating three separate posts on FR, I have created three links below for you to follow if you so desire to read the article, "Myths, Legends, & Misconceptions of the Wolf".

Part 1- Misconceptions 1 to 6
   
Part 2 - Misconceptions 7 to 12
  
Part 3 - Conclusion & Bibliography

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: depredation; hunting; wildlife; wolves
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Like every government program, the results are always more devastating than their estimations. Those of us on the right have always known the government underestimates the negative aspects of their misguided compassion.

What strikes me, and others who are against introducing vicious predators like wolves into areas occupied by humans, is the number of conservatives who agree with the pro-wolf crowd. If you think it's OK, then let us release them in your neck of the woods, and let you deal with them.

1 posted on 08/21/2010 12:08:16 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks
We'd like to have a couple of dozen wolves here in Fairfax County VA.

If they could be "controlled" (zap collars perhaps) they'd give us a good start on the North end's 60 to 70 thousand wild deer, and the South end's 50 thousand wild deer.

Fire arms are inappropriate in a heavily urbanized area where you are unable to "clear" downrange. But wolves would be fine. Just track'em and follow them around with a meat wagon or something.

2 posted on 08/21/2010 12:17:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Be very careful what you ask for, because you know very well that those who would implement the program will be the same ones who are now denying the destruction these wolves are wrecking in the Northwest.

What you need to do is get rid of the stupid laws that only let you hunt at certain times of the year. If you have that many deer, then extend the hunting season to a year round and allow each hunter to kill more per tag.

However, DO NOT ask for wolves to be released into your area. First get rid of the wolves running your state that will not allow the hunters to do what they do best.


3 posted on 08/21/2010 12:21:51 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks
Some of my neighbors have machineguns (as a consequence of their jobs). One single round goes through the neighborhood everybody has serious problems ~ most certainly the guy holding the gun at the other end.

No, this is an urban area ~ very urban. The hunting laws don't need to be liberalized at all ~ we need animals who can kill lots of deer.

4 posted on 08/21/2010 12:25:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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If they could be "controlled"

Yeah and if pigs could fly...

5 posted on 08/21/2010 12:28:12 PM PDT by Valpal1 ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: muawiyah

You are delusional if you think that an animal that will kill many deer will only kill the deer. Look into what is going on in Northern Minn, Wisc, and Mich and you will think differently.

Once the deer population is down, what do you think those wolves will be hinting?

I’ll tell you what, farm animals, your pets and your small children.


6 posted on 08/21/2010 12:28:16 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks
"us release them in your neck of the woods, and let you deal with them."

Most of the time I see the reverse --- humans being released into animals' neck of the woods.

7 posted on 08/21/2010 12:28:32 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Tom Hawks
7. Death, destruction and suffering follow the wolf. The wolf is a predator and therefore has to take life in order to maintain its own life. Sometimes the time of suffering of the prey animal is short, but at other times, this suffering last for days. In the past, man has had to take action to end such suffering.

I was talking to a guy at the range who owns hunting land in northern Wisc. He told about a deer that came limping by, its back all torn up from wolves. He put it down. Wolves have decimated the deer in northern Wisc. The bears, cougars and coyotes don't help either.

8 posted on 08/21/2010 12:29:53 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: TopQuark

And what do you suggest, limit mans ability to go into the woods. You sound like a leftist who agrees that people belong in the city where the government can control us.

Look into the history of this and you will see that the wolf was NEVER in danger of going extinct.

The only thin in danger of going extinct is every Americans RIGHT to go into the woods because idiots like you are worried about man infringing upon the animals world.


9 posted on 08/21/2010 12:32:55 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks
I've been in Northern WI, MN, UP. And the large urban areas are?

I suggested zap collars. The wolf goes the wrong way, or decides to eat doggies instead of deer, s/he gets zapped.

They're smart. Even coyotes learn to obey traffic signals ~ I've watched one stop at the red. Wait for the green and then look both ways and cross safely.

But coyotes aren't big enough to take down a bunch of deer and won't work in groups. Wolves are big, strong and cooperative. We could begin training them in nearby military enclosures with 20 ft high barbed wire topped fences.

10 posted on 08/21/2010 12:33:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tom Hawks

I’m still amazed every time I hear an adult refer to these animals as “woofs”! I’ve even heard preachers use this term (e,g,”sheep in “woof’s clothing”...).


11 posted on 08/21/2010 12:34:00 PM PDT by Joann37
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Actually what you need to do is to open the area to archery hunting. Cities like Pittsburgh have done this to control suburban deer populations.


12 posted on 08/21/2010 12:34:59 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: muawiyah

In highly populated districts the firearms for hunting deer are limited to shotguns with either buckshot of slugs, both of which are very limited in range, especially the buckshot. Archery is another way to limit damage to things other than the deer being hunted. Making excuses for not allowing hunting is just BS. The reason you have so many is because not enough people hunt them.


13 posted on 08/21/2010 12:35:52 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Eagles6

Pittsburgh is not Fairfax.


14 posted on 08/21/2010 12:36:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 50cal Smokepole
I was talking to a guy at the range who owns hunting land in northern Wisc. He told about a deer that came limping by, its back all torn up from wolves. He put it down. Wolves have decimated the deer in northern Wisc. The bears, cougars and coyotes don't help either.

That story is repeated in every place the wolf is iether introduced or allowed to multiply. What is it about some even on the right that don't want to get it?

I understand the leftists believing the lies, their idiots, but when a so called conservative starts defending the wolf programs I begin to really worry about my children's future.

It is those on the right who too many times agree with the left that are allowing the left to get everything they want.
15 posted on 08/21/2010 12:37:48 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks

Wolves need to be hunted. The problem in part is that it seems due to white flight of liberals out of Crapistan California the wolf has to share his mountain habitat with liberals. Open season on all.


16 posted on 08/21/2010 12:38:42 PM PDT by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: calex59
Look, we have several tens of thousands of Vietnamese who don't give a hoot for whiteman's hunting laws. They hunt these critters night and day using knives and traps.

They're freezers are bursting with venison. If the Salvadorans around here had freezers, they'd be filling them too.

These things breed like bunnies and hide out behind homes. We found 7 of them trimming my lawn the other day (drought's hard on 'em).

What's going on is that people plant lawns, plant bushes, plant bulbs, plant all manner of good things for deer to eat and fail to instal 12 ft high fences around it. Deer can outbreed the ability of their predators to kill them ~ and will outbreed their range.

Only a man/wolf combo double-team has a hope of driving down this surplus.

17 posted on 08/21/2010 12:40:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
But coyotes aren't big enough to take down a bunch of deer and won't work in groups. Wolves are big, strong and cooperative. We could begin training them in nearby military enclosures with 20 ft high barbed wire topped fences.

Bzzzt. Wrong. Coyotes can, and do, hunt in packs. They can also take down deer although they usually hung smaller game and also take out domestic animals such as sheep and goats, not to mention cats and dogs. I doubt very seriously if wolves can be taught to hunt on command.

18 posted on 08/21/2010 12:41:54 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Tom Hawks
What is it about some even on the right that don't want to get it?

Anyone who has spent time hunting or just being in the field, and is serious about the environment, as we sportsmen are, do get it. The rest watch too much Animal Planet.

19 posted on 08/21/2010 12:44:04 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: muawiyah
"Pittsburgh is not Fairfax.

No it's not but if I lived in Fairfax (I did about 25 yrs ago) I would give archery hunting a try before I reintroduced savage, bloodthirsty, uncontrollable killers.

20 posted on 08/21/2010 12:49:03 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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