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Some Maryland stores selling banned dish detergent
abc2news.com ^ | 20 Aug 2010 | Joce Sterman

Posted on 08/22/2010 10:34:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog

Baltimore - A ban that's designed to protect the Chesapeake Bay from a dangerous pollutant went into effect more than a month ago and you may not even noticed. That ban impacts the detergent we all use in our dishwashers. ABC2 News Investigator Joce Sterman explains what's been cut out of the cleaning product and where we found banned items out for sale.

She's got kids, a career and still has to make time to do those households chores. It's obvious Lutherville’s Jenny Atwater is a busy mom with plenty on her plate. She says, “I hate unloading the dishwasher and I really hate unloading the dishwasher and seeing the dishes seem not very clean."

But Atwater has noticed that’s been happening a lot lately. She tells us, "I do notice there tends to be more stuff left with this detergent, just stuff that normally would have been washed away probably."

The dish detergent she's talking about is phosphate free. Jenny made the switch a few months, and chances are so did you, although you probably didn’t even notice. Jenn Aiosa with the Chesapeake Bay Foundation says, "The average consumer doesn't know."

Marylanders may not be aware that automatic dishwasher detergents with phosphorus are now banned in this state and more than a dozen others. The ban is thanks to a law put in place to help get rid of one of the biggest pollutants in the Chesapeake Bay. Aiosa explains, "It's really something that's relatively easy in the grand scheme of things for consumers to do but can have an impact."

The impact is something you should already be seeing on store shelves, but it took awhile to put this plan in place. Dennis Griesing with the American Cleaning Institute says, "It was a significant undertaking."

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: dishwasher; environment; phosphates; soap
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To: kara37
"Leave the door and even the detergent door open a little. I found mine will start to smell if I close them when it is still wet inside. I think that is the problem with most HE washers. They are sealed up so tight when the door is closed, they don’t let any air flow.

Exactly so. We've had our HE washer for about 3 years. We've had very little trouble with odor. I use about 1/3 (or less) the recommended amount of detergent, because our clothes simply aren't that dirty and really they need water and agitation most of all. After use, I leave the door open, and if I'm inspired, I dry off the door gasket. I run a load with bleach from time to time, and that also helps keep down any odor development. I've used the refresher cleaning tablets a few times when for one reason or another it started getting smelly. They really help, but they're not cheap and I wouldn't want to rely on them for weekly cleaning.

I've been happy with the HE washer. We're on a septic system, and going to a front loader allowed me to cut way down on the volume of waste water. This also means less energy used in heating the water.

61 posted on 08/23/2010 6:21:46 AM PDT by Think free or die
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
My stainless steel Whirlpool appliances are rusting! Where do they get their “stainless” steel? Sri Lanka?

More likely China, the land of quality fade.
62 posted on 08/23/2010 6:22:14 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: P.O.E.

I’ve had mine 5 years now and I have no complaints. Apparently the Maytag Repairman isn’t as lonely as he once was.


63 posted on 08/23/2010 6:24:48 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: Slyfox

Yup! We have her sister, aka The Knee Licker.


64 posted on 08/23/2010 6:27:05 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: Dizzy Lizzy

Ewww! I never thought of that happening.


65 posted on 08/23/2010 6:30:44 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
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To: IamConservative
The odor is "soap mold"

Fascinating. I've experienced this when I tried to wash some especially dirty clothes with a bit more detergent. Thanks for the info. I've learned something today (actually two somethings if one considers the weird story about the protest for topless women in San Francisco); I can now call it a day (I wish).

66 posted on 08/23/2010 6:32:22 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: P.O.E.

I have a 19 year old Kenmore that’s still working just fine.


67 posted on 08/23/2010 6:44:09 AM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: MHGinTN

“So do I need to now make a run on Sam’s Club to stockpile the dish detergent with the phosphates in it, before Barry The Bastard Boy has it yanked from the shelves at great financial loss to the producers?”

It might be too late.
I (in Georgia) was complaining to my out of state sister about my dishwasher not getting my dishes clean. She suggested that I might be using the phosphate free detergent. I replied I had not changed a thing, still picking up the same old Cascade.
She urged me to get the bottle out and check. After a lot of looking, I finally found the phosphate free notice in small letters right about the IPC.
While shopping for a replacement, I could not find any phosphate dishwashing detergent at ANY store.


68 posted on 08/23/2010 7:04:03 AM PDT by texteacher
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
I’m forever trying to wipe the gasket and run vinegar or ammonia or clorox through it to prevent smelly clothes. Some of the earlier versions don’t drain properly.

If you're talking about the new front-loading ones, then yes, there is a problem with that. It may not be a lack of draining properly, it may actually be that the door remains closed and sealed when not in use and that doesn't allow it to dry out properly, so you get stuff growing that you don't want to have grow. The most common recommendation I hear to fix it is to always leave the door ajar. Problem with that is most laundry rooms simply don't have the room to leave the door open. It's also a problem that many models actually don't allow the door to simply stand ajar, but make the machine so that the door swings wide open when it is not latched.

69 posted on 08/23/2010 7:07:04 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: varina davis
Is she in the country legally?
70 posted on 08/23/2010 7:12:54 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: Global2010

**make home soap...but I Bet You know that. Recipe.***

I make my own homemade bath soap. Much better than anything I have ever bought!


71 posted on 08/23/2010 8:19:26 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

steer clear of HE washers...

I have had my Kenmore washing machine for well over a year with no problems. I read where running vinegar etc through will destroy the gaskets.

Leaving the door just a bit ajar eliminates any moldy odors- my daughter has had one for several years and has had no problems or odor.


72 posted on 08/23/2010 8:32:47 AM PDT by handmade
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To: smokingfrog

Alls you have to do is go to the hardware store and buy some TSP. Add a table spoon with the detergent in the cup - clean dishes again!


73 posted on 08/23/2010 8:37:28 AM PDT by Pilated
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To: IYAS9YAS

most laundry rooms don’t have the room to leave the door open-

All I do it leave it a bit ajar- no problem with space to do that, no odor, no problems. I much prefer my front loader, but I have never had any problems with it of any kind.


74 posted on 08/23/2010 8:42:12 AM PDT by handmade
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To: blam

Cleaning out the old garage, I ran across half a case of old freon cannisters... Bet someone somewhere would give me a pretty penny for these!


75 posted on 08/23/2010 9:13:33 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: JDoutrider
"Cleaning out the old garage, I ran across half a case of old freon cannisters... Bet someone somewhere would give me a pretty penny for these!"

I expect so. However, as time passes, the demand should decline.

76 posted on 08/23/2010 10:15:58 AM PDT by blam
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To: P.O.E.

Yes, we have one of those too. It started leaking after having it for only about 4 years. It leaks when I do a small load of laundry on one of the longer cycles.

The Maytag dishwasher we bought had problems right off the bat. After three months, the control panel went out. Fortunately, it was under warranty. Then after about 3 years it started leaking. We tried to troubleshoot the problem, but couldn’t figure it out. Even bought a new pump, but that wasn’t it. We took the pump back to the Maytag store and they charged us $11 to reshelf it.

I will never buy another Maytag again. I’ve been without a dishwasher for quite a few months now. Not sure which brand is the best any more.


77 posted on 08/23/2010 11:38:48 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: smokingfrog
My current, broken-down one is a Jenn-Air that’s already been repaired once, leaked and ruined my new floor

That's what happened with our Maytag dishwasher--ruined the tile in the kitchen. It was only 3 years old. Also, our Maytag washing machine leaks on certain cycles. Let me know if you find out a decent brand to buy. We need a new dishwasher and stove.

78 posted on 08/23/2010 11:44:02 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: smokingfrog; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ..

Is this why my dishwashing gel is all watery?

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


79 posted on 08/23/2010 10:22:21 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Michelle Obama: the woman who ended "Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Da*ned fascists.


80 posted on 08/23/2010 10:48:43 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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