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From an Actual Moderate Muslim, a Memo to the MSM on Imam Rauf
Pajamas Media ^ | August 24, 2010 | Abdur-Rahman Muhammad

Posted on 08/24/2010 7:45:32 AM PDT by Rashputin

The imam heading up this $100 million project, Faisal Abdul Rauf, enjoys the full support of the sympathizing left-leaning media, and together they have attempted to frame this fight as a First Amendment issue. They’ve worked to cast the opponents of the project — including the 9/11 families — as bigots bent on denying “peaceful Muslims” the “right” to build a facility on their own property. All of this is sheer nonsense, because as many commentators already noted this week, the right to build the mosque was never in question — only the appropriateness of putting it near Ground Zero. It is simply not possible, and indeed quite dishonest, to characterize 70 percent of the population as bigots and “Islamophobes,” despite what the media would have us believe.

As an American Muslim, I can say with confidence that most folks have no desire to trample our First Amendment rights, and have said so repeatedly. It is not even entirely clear to me that, were the Muslim developers of the mosque genuinely moderate, it would be so bitterly opposed. But then again, they probably would never have proposed such a thing in the first place.

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You know, you find a lot of formerly radical now moderate Muslims and former Muslims who are now of another faith willing to tell the truth about Islam and Muslim goals but you never seem to hear anything from those hordes of moderates that are supposed to be the mainstream in the Muslim faith. You'd think that especially in this country where so many are here because they fled horrible situations that it would be quite common to hear moderates speaking out and even organizing against the radicals and making their presence known. Seems like there are either an awful lot of "moderates" who aren't really moderate or an awful lot who are moderate but being systematically intimidated into silence.
1 posted on 08/24/2010 7:45:36 AM PDT by Rashputin
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To: Rashputin
Seems like there are either an awful lot of "moderates" who aren't really moderate or an awful lot who are moderate but being systematically intimidated into silence.

That's the way of all fascists. David Horowitz was a darling of the radical revolutionary press in the 60s, but after his "conversion" to conservatism, he not only couldn't get any mainstream publishers to call him back, he now routinely gets attacked by the leftists at campuses where he is invited to speak by conservative student groups. Radical gays won't let ex-gays speak, either, and go to great lengths to silence them.

2 posted on 08/24/2010 7:50:47 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Rest in peace, Congressman BillyBob.)
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To: Rashputin

Muslims who have converted to Christianity will all tell you the same thing: Don’t believe what the Muslims say.


3 posted on 08/24/2010 7:52:48 AM PDT by Genoa (Titus 2:13)
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To: Rashputin

Interesting article. this guy says all the right stuff but many so called moderates have aso said all the right stuff only to revert to their true beliefs.
never forget that well known moderate Anwar al-Awlaki


4 posted on 08/24/2010 7:54:20 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Rashputin

There are NO moderates, only press agents for real Muslims who have their goal of domination, world domination and we are in the way.


5 posted on 08/24/2010 7:55:33 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Rashputin

“You’d think that especially in this country where so many are here because they fled horrible situations that it would be quite common to hear moderates speaking out and even organizing against the radicals and making their presence known”

I think you answer your own question in your last sentence...” an awful lot who are moderate but being systematically intimidated into silence.”
Many have fled, and they DO still feel intimidated, even though no one may have directly threatened them here, the fear is still there because it’s the norm in their previous culture & background that they fled.

Another explanation may be that people who are more secular muslims feel that each person’s practice of the religion is between himself & God and it isn’t their place to condemn how another practices.


6 posted on 08/24/2010 7:58:30 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Rashputin

Most likely, the State Run Media has no interest in interviewing moderate Muslims, unless it fits with the Pravda of the day.

Another interpretation would be that moderate Muslims have adapted Reagans’s rule and speak no ill of fellow Muslims.

Obviously, placing a mosque at this location gins up opposition, and we may conclude that Imam Rauf enjoys the publicity, much like Osama bin Laden enjoyed the initial publicity from 9/11. Rauf knows that the Obama Regime supports him, and that he will be able to raise more money because of the controversy.


7 posted on 08/24/2010 7:59:16 AM PDT by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2010.)
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To: Rashputin
I am starting to think we are going about this all wrong.

My understanding is that Faisal Abdul Rauf does not even have the money at this time to purchase the building.

100 million is not a lot of money these days. We raised the money through private donations to build the WWII memorial. With a few big contributors, (Rush, Hanity etc) and the rest of us we could snatch this property from the grip of darkness and turn it into something appropriate. No government intervention just American ingenuity at its best.

Or are we just going to submit?

8 posted on 08/24/2010 8:00:48 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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I was glad to read something sensible ... and telling...from this author. I am hoping there are more who feel as he does, and will stand up and say it. And, I want to be trusting, truly.

I have, in that spirit, posted this on FaceBook also. Hope it increases the readership of what he wrote.

9 posted on 08/24/2010 8:02:20 AM PDT by CitizenM ("Do you miss me yet?" Yes, George, we do.)
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To: Rashputin
There are no moderate mohammedens. In all likely hood those mohammedens calling for the GZM to be moved are not members of the same sect of mohammed's cult that wants to build GZM. The two major sects are in competition for restoring the caliphate, they hate each other.

So one of these sects can criticize the other and be labeled moderate? Phoooey!

10 posted on 08/24/2010 8:09:11 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: RWGinger; Cheetahcat; Rashputin

The problem is, the radicals have learned to label themselves moderates & the media buys into the label. Then when it becomes more apparent that the person isn’t so moderate, it maligns the true moderates and makes people believe that aren’t really any true moderates.
Obviously there are: Dr. Jasser being a prime example.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of Washington & the media, don’t know how to distinguish between the 2, so we end up with sharia promoting muslims who have the media & Washington promoting them as moderates.

It really isn’t that difficult to make the distinction - you just have to be willing to do the background research and have a good ear.


11 posted on 08/24/2010 8:11:15 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Rashputin
were the Muslim developers of the mosque genuinely moderate . . . they probably would never have proposed such a thing in the first place.

Exactly!

12 posted on 08/24/2010 8:24:03 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Rashputin

“The imam heading up this $100 million project, Faisal Abdul Rauf, enjoys the full support of the sympathizing left-leaning media . . .”

And now for whiplash:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-23-2010/the-parent-company-trap


13 posted on 08/24/2010 8:25:45 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: Rashputin

A “moderate” Muslim is also known as an apostate, for he is NOT following the commands of Mohammed, the pedophile inventor of this phony “religion.”


14 posted on 08/24/2010 8:26:51 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Genoa
Muslims who have converted to Christianity will all tell you the same thing: Don’t believe what the Muslims say.

+100 points.


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Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

15 posted on 08/24/2010 8:50:40 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: nuconvert
“The problem is, the radicals have learned to label themselves moderates & the media buys into the label. Then when it becomes more apparent that the person isn’t so moderate, it maligns the true moderates and makes people believe that aren’t really any true moderates.
Obviously there are: Dr. Jasser being a prime example.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of Washington & the media, don’t know how to distinguish between the 2, so we end up with sharia promoting muslims who have the media & Washington promoting them as moderates.

It really isn’t that difficult to make the distinction - you just have to be willing to do the background research and have a good ear.”

Pretty simple if you are a practicing Muslim you then cannot be a American! Listening to one Friday noon sermon would make that very clear. These people DO NOT assimilate as control is the end game with their insane crazy laws.

16 posted on 08/24/2010 9:43:54 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Rashputin

I wonder how and when Imam Rauf came to own property at ground zero. Seems a lot about his motives might be reveled from this part of the story. Perhaps it is out there and I have missed it amongst all the hand waving in the media about freedom of religion.


17 posted on 08/24/2010 9:48:44 AM PDT by IamConservative (Two wrongs don't make a right, but you might get even.)
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To: Cheetahcat

“Pretty simple if you are a practicing Muslim you then cannot be a American”

That’s not only incredibly ignorant, but an insult to every muslim who is currently serving or who has served in our armed forces, including Dr Jasser, former Lieutenant Commander in the U.S. Navy


18 posted on 08/24/2010 9:59:33 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

““Pretty simple if you are a practicing Muslim you then cannot be a American”

That’s not only incredibly ignorant, but an insult to every muslim who is currently serving or who has served in our armed forces, including Dr Jasser, former Lieutenant Commander in the U.S. Navy”

REALLY ??????? Now Tell that to the fort hood victims families and the guys who got fragged in Kuwait.

No Sir you’re grasp of this is piss poor at best!and spreading this crap Then compounding the issue with bull crap! ONE MORE Time :Islam is a military theocracy One cannot be a praticing MUSLIM and a American. NOW stop this attack on American citizens Abu!


19 posted on 08/24/2010 10:07:28 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: nuconvert

Enough with the “moderate” Muslim nonsense. If there were so many of them, they would have changed things already. There are Mosques across America preaching Sharia Law, and there is no Muslim movement against it. They stand with their religion.


20 posted on 08/24/2010 10:15:03 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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