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Discovered beyond the sun: Solar system with seven planets
Mail Online, ^ | 8/25/10 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 08/25/2010 9:58:27 PM PDT by Nachum

A solar system containing up to seven planets orbiting a sun-like star has been detected 127 light years from Earth.

The planetary system is believed to be the largest ever discovered beyond the sun.

Astronomers have confirmed the presence of five planets and have tantalising evidence of two more.

And it comes as Nasa has said that it plans to make an announcement about an 'intriguing' planetary system that it has discovered using the Kepler space telescope Kepler looks at the telltale 'wobble' as planets pass in front of distant stars and, earlier this year, astronomers announced that it had discovered more than 700 possible planets. The conference is scheduled for 1pm EDT (6pm BST).

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To: Mogollon

I discovered this site when looking up related data on this subject:

http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/F/fastest_spacecraft.html


61 posted on 08/26/2010 12:27:20 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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To: Nachum
Their esteemed leader...


62 posted on 08/26/2010 12:42:31 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: The Cajun
not Borg but close...

We'd better hope not!

63 posted on 08/26/2010 1:09:26 AM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: fso301
Think about your immune system and the implications of coming in contact with life forms your immune system has no evolutionary protection against.

....which is exactly the reason early astronauts to the moon were quarantined upon their return to earth.

64 posted on 08/26/2010 6:09:09 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: txhurl
That said, how long would it take to get there? Roughly. Because either I have to go, or about 3 million other earthlings have to go. It’s them or me :)

I have these thoughts often.

65 posted on 08/26/2010 9:12:22 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (So, kids can't wear American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo but we'll have a mosque at Ground Zero?)
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To: Nachum
I don't understand why people get so hopeful that there will be life on hot Jupiters, Saturns and Neptunes. How will life survive when the planet has crushing gravity, is tidally-locked to the star (one side is hotter'n'hell and the other is frozen), and any moons of the planet will be pounded with solar flares and coronal mass ejections?

HD 10180 is a good star for a Sol-type system, though. Nearly the same spectral class as our sun (orange-yellow instead of yellow), nearly the same mass, nearly the same amount of metals, and about the same temperature. But it is closer to the galactic plane than we are (galactic latitude 22.75 vs. -76.29 for the sun), so I wonder whether its "neighborhood" is as clear as ours.

The fact that HD 10180's metallicity is about 20% higher than the Sun's indicates it's a younger star. Perhaps in a few millions years all these hot Jupiters and such will spiral into their sun or clear the inner system out, and then there will be room for a planetary collision or two to make some terrestrial planets. But that's too long to wait.

66 posted on 08/26/2010 9:40:12 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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To: backwoods-engineer
I don't understand why people get so hopeful that there will be life on hot Jupiters, Saturns and Neptunes.

There is more to the universe than just hot planets. I think the earth, and planets such as Mars would clearly substantiate that.

Did you know during nuclear weapons testing that life was found just below the surface close to where weapons were detonated?

67 posted on 08/26/2010 10:12:00 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Undocumented_capitalist; AlexW; Quix; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
IF we humans have found the limits to the laws of Physics, then the distances are prohibitive. HOWEVER, it is no problem to show that we have a very primitive concept of dimension Time.

We have clues about 'other dimensional realms' yet we ignore these clues because they come to us from sources like the Book of Daniel, Old Testament. I would contend that the scene in Daniel Chapter Five, or the upper room following Christ's rising from the tomb, are possible because there are temporal differences, like linear time, planar time, and volumetric time. And the 'mediator' of these other expressions of time will be 'force carriers different from the photon as we experience it; perhaps the sensing capability in these other realms will sense the planar nature of the photon's reality, rather than relying on the arrive of linear past data.

I'm in the process of writing a book on the subject, but here's a severely abbreviated hint:

The unit/limiting factor of our perception is the photon. A photon leaves a star billions of years away, yet when that photon reaches Earth, it is still in the present of when it left the star, thereby bringing us a past state of existence impacting our present state of reality.
Photons exist trapped in linear time, traversing the universe as points, or perhaps linear elements/string things ... the universe of a photon is limited by the linear temporal state.
Linear time has 'the same time' all along the linear pathway from source to target. A linear state exists as a portion of an infinite number of planes, which of course makes up a volume.
Because these units exist within a plane which exists within a volume of time (the expanding universe bespeaks a volume of time), things like the two slit experiment display wave characteristics, such that photons/electrons, etc. seem to pass through both slits as the photon moves from source to target.
A linear existence, in a volume of time, nets a planar reality/effect (a 'presentness', if you will). The photon is actually carrying a past temporal state ... we sense only that which has already occurred.
Only upon reaching a target does the linear existence terminate the planar effect, netting a point of past data. Linear exists within the limits of planar, and planar exists within the limits of volumetric.

Cutting to the chase, so to speak, it may be that the beings using these interstellar traveling devices are made differently than us, perhaps sensing the force carrier photon differently than we do. There travel may be hallmarked by a completely different temporal limits than what we have so far discovered.

A last clue from the Bible might be instructive: We are told that God made Himself a little less than the Angels, to take a body and dwell among us in the person of Jesus. Jesus made an effort to help Philip understand this as reported in John Chapter fourteen and elsewhere.

68 posted on 08/26/2010 10:35:05 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dem voters, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ! I particularly appreciate your description of the "null path."
69 posted on 08/26/2010 10:39:06 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: B.Lyle

ET bomb home.


70 posted on 08/26/2010 10:45:35 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: B.Lyle
I say we push some nukes in their direction now.

It's the only way to be sure.

71 posted on 08/26/2010 10:48:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: aquila48

Does your house move; is it taxed?


72 posted on 08/26/2010 10:54:04 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

“Does your house move; is it taxed?”

Yes, it moves around the center of the earth and around the sun, and yes it is taxed. :)


73 posted on 08/26/2010 10:59:37 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: MHGinTN

FASCINATING. THX


74 posted on 08/26/2010 12:10:49 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: dragnet2
There is more to the universe than just hot planets

Name one extra-terrestial system that doesn't contain close-orbiting giant planets (i.e., "hot Jupiters"). Out of the over 200 that have been discovered, they all contain them. Those will not be life sites, nor will their moons.

75 posted on 08/26/2010 1:06:56 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Name one extra-terrestial system that doesn't contain close-orbiting giant planets (i.e., "hot Jupiters"). Out of the over 200 that have been discovered, they all contain them.

Maybe that has something to do with the way they are detected. I believe that the first extra-solar planets were discovered by noticing slight oscillations of stars caused by large orbiting planets. I don't know if there is a better method now.

76 posted on 08/26/2010 1:11:43 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: backwoods-engineer
I don't understand why people get so hopeful that there will be life on hot Jupiters, Saturns and Neptunes.

There is more to the universe than just hot planets. I think the earth, and planets such as Mars would clearly substantiate that.

Did you know during nuclear weapons testing that life was found just below the surface close to where weapons were detonated?

Name one extra-terrestial system that doesn't contain close-orbiting giant planets (i.e., "hot Jupiters"). Out of the over 200 that have been discovered, they all contain them. Those will not be life sites, nor will their moons.

No offense, but you seem really ignorant here. Do you realize that we have only started to scratch the surface with our search for similar earth like planets, and or planets that we believe might harbor life? Do you realize that with our extremely limited technology, we are currently capable of searching a very small, limited regions close to earth?

We've only started searching for these planets in the past few years.

Asking to, "Just name one" is a bit ridicules at this point.

It was only just a couple of years ago that we actually discovered other solar systems exist outside of our own.

The universe is really a big place...Please, give it some time....lol

77 posted on 08/26/2010 2:46:00 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
I'm not ignorant on this subject. I'm not a professional astronomer, but an engineer who has been following the search for extra-terrestrial planets almost since it began.

My "name one" challenge would be supported by any number of habitable-zone proponents, such as Dr. Guillermo Gonzales, Dr. Donald Brownlee and Dr. Peter Ward. Simply put, we do not believe there is another system like Sol in the entire galaxy. I know that is unpopular with the trekker types, but it is supported by hard facts.

78 posted on 08/26/2010 5:05:16 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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To: dragnet2
It was only just a couple of years ago that we actually discovered other solar systems exist outside of our own.

Incorrect. It was in 1992, 18 years ago. (pulsar PSR B1257+12) It was a shot heard 'round the astronomical world. I remember it. Do you?

79 posted on 08/26/2010 5:08:46 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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To: backwoods-engineer
A couple of years....18 years....OMG!!... That's a huge difference between a couple years and 18 whole years.... .....And we haven't found one yet???

This is nuts...Outrageous.....What is taking so damn long? We should have found one in the first couple of weeks!

At this rate it might take 40 years or maybe even 100 years to find an earth-like planet....I say we give up!

80 posted on 08/26/2010 5:42:00 PM PDT by dragnet2
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