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The Government Can Use GPS to Track Your Moves
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2013150,00.html ^

Posted on 08/26/2010 2:05:50 PM PDT by chessplayer

Government agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway — and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements.

That is the bizarre — and scary — rule that now applies in California and eight other Western states. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which covers this vast jurisdiction, recently decided the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants — with no need for a search warrant.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; buggingdevice; california; cultureofcorruption; donutwatch; fourthamendment; gps; gpstracking; policestate; privacyrights; trackingdevice; warrantlesssearch
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To: Nervous Tick

The prices seem very reasonable. I shut the phone off and take out the battery when I want it to be OFF.

I like the sleeves, and the multi-jammers. They look cool too.


21 posted on 08/26/2010 2:36:15 PM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com)
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To: King_Corey

I like the name of the place, too. “Jammer World”. ROFL!

“Jammers ‘R Us”


22 posted on 08/26/2010 2:38:05 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Hodar
Home phones, unless the old heavy types with a MECHANICAL disconnect, can be used for round the clock surveilance.

All modern phones are electronic, so the same technology thats used to ring the phone, can also activate the handset mic, or the speakerphone mic.

Most people have multi handset phones, which enables virtually entire house audio surveilance.

Most cell phones today have a GPS unit in them, that even with power to the phone off, the GPS CAN still be powered. The only alternative is taking the battery out. Older phones that don't have GPS, still ping the towers. Unless your in a very rural area, there are usually 3 or more towers that receive your phones ping, enabling the powers that be to triangulate your position, to within a a handful of yards.

Just like a home phone, your cell phone can be activated to send a voice signal while in your pocket. Isn't bluetooth wonderful. I have heard, but can't confirm, that a signal can be sent to turn a phone on remotely.

Got a tollway transponder? You have already tagged your vehicle for the government.

Welcome to the world of Big Brother.

23 posted on 08/26/2010 2:40:32 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: murron
This would be interesting. If they were following my movements today, they would have trailed me to the grocery and to the school where I pick up my grandkids. It would be ho-hum time for the Feds.

All paid for by our taxes... good stuff!

24 posted on 08/26/2010 2:43:38 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Nervous Tick

Drop it in the mail.


25 posted on 08/26/2010 2:44:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: j_guru

>> If you are found on my property at night, you will be found there in the morning.

Funny.


26 posted on 08/26/2010 2:45:06 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Nervous Tick

Put your cell phone in a metalized baggy.


27 posted on 08/26/2010 2:47:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: mojito

If you have no reasonable expectation that an agent from the government will not trespass on your property to plant a surveillance device on your vehicle, then there is no reasonable expectation to believe that the government isn’t following the GPS signal from your cell phone. And though a warrant is needed to “legaly” LISTEN to phone conversations, I don’t believe the same applies to GPS pings.


28 posted on 08/26/2010 2:48:14 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Mr Inviso

Agency employees have nothing else to do but spy on U S citizens.


29 posted on 08/26/2010 2:48:46 PM PDT by Ax (Crusades V.9 anyone?)
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To: j_guru

Ha Ha....garage kept....


30 posted on 08/26/2010 2:49:42 PM PDT by geege
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To: loungitude
Yes, if you aren’t doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about!

But YOU posted on FreeRepublic today, you are now a person of suspicious intent.

31 posted on 08/26/2010 2:50:47 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Paladin2

>> Put your cell phone in a metalized baggy.

What if I’m waiting for a call from my Russian “handler”? That’s not gonna work so well.


33 posted on 08/26/2010 2:57:00 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: sfg-18b

Can you cite a source? It does’;t make sense that you can turn on a cell phone remotely if it is off, because by being off the radio isn’t available to to send or receive a signal.


34 posted on 08/26/2010 2:59:25 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: mojito

“That’s right: you have no reasonable expectation that an agent from the government will not trespass you your property to plant a surveillance device on your vehicle.

Another Bizarro World decision by the Ninth Circus.”

But don’t even THINK of taking a picture of a policeman doing their work in public in some states.

So, can I attach a GPS to a police car so I can keep track of where they are? This would be a good way of finding speed traps.

I’d like to hear how “law and order” republicans feel about this vs “tea party” conservatives...


35 posted on 08/26/2010 2:59:25 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: King_Corey; Nervous Tick

•§ 333 (Willful or malicious interference)

“No person shall willfully or maliciously interfere with or cause interference to any radio communications of any station licensed or authorized by or under this chapter or operated by the United States Government.”

The FCC has the authority to enforce this federal statute pursuant to Title 47 CFR §§ 97 (Amateur Radio Service) & 80 (Stations in the Maritime Services); the Agreement Between the United States of America and Canada for the Promotion of Safety on the Great Lakes by Means of Radio; and the International Convention for Safety of Life at Sea, 1974.
Title 47 USC § 302a(a)(1)
•§ 302a(a)(1) (Devices which interfere with radio reception; Regulations)

“The Commission may, consistent with the public interest, convenience, and necessity, make reasonable regulations governing the interference potential of devices which in their operation are capable of emitting radio frequency energy by radiation, conduction, or other means in sufficient degree to cause harmful interference to radio communications.”

The FCC has the authority to enforce this federal statute pursuant to Title 47 CFR §§ 76 (Multichannel Video and Cable Television Service), 15 (Radio Frequency Devices) & 2 (Frequency Allocations and Radio Treaty Matters; General Rules and Regulations); and ITU Radio Regulations.


36 posted on 08/26/2010 3:00:26 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

I’m pretty sure that I was before today!


38 posted on 08/26/2010 3:02:49 PM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: mountn man; King_Corey

Yeah, I’m aware it’s illegal.


39 posted on 08/26/2010 3:03:08 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Nervous Tick
"What if I’m waiting for a call from my Russian “handler”? That’s not gonna work so well."

Just go to the old fashioned pre-rranged drop location for instructions wrapped in an old Hope and Change bumper sticker.

40 posted on 08/26/2010 3:03:36 PM PDT by Paladin2
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