Posted on 08/26/2010 2:05:50 PM PDT by chessplayer
Government agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway — and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements.
That is the bizarre — and scary — rule that now applies in California and eight other Western states. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which covers this vast jurisdiction, recently decided the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants — with no need for a search warrant.
(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...
I’ve got motion detectors all over my property.Don’t let me catch you planting any device anywhere.
Another Bizarro World decision by the Ninth Circus.
This would be interesting. If they were following my movements today, they would have trailed me to the grocery and to the school where I pick up my grandkids. It would be ho-hum time for the Feds.
>> the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants — with no need for a search warrant.
It seems, then, that you could electronically sweep your car for broadcasting devices** — and if you find one, it’s yours!
You could remove it from your car and put it on... oh, say, a cop car; wouldn’t that be a hoot. Or a city councilman’s vehicle. Wonder what they’re up to when they’re not spending your dough? :-)
Or just smash it up with a hammer and throw it away. Or take it apart and see what makes it tick, and post pics to the internet.
** I’m sure you can buy a device for detecting “bugs” on the Internet — and if this technique catches on, they’ll become quite popular and readily available.
And he has a reasonable expectation to be introduced to Mr. Smith and Mrs. Wesson.
For me, the death knell for On*Star was the case where the gov’t used this device to listen to a drug dealer, then used On*Star to track make his deliveries.
This was property that was owned by the criminal, was then used against him (with a court order and Search Warrant); but my view is simple. On*Star violated a trust, thus no vehicle of mine will EVER have that product installed on it.
The instant I hear of a cell phone that is similarily used to monitor my personal conversations and track my movements, I will return to a home phone and forsake the cell phone.
If you are found on my property at night, you will be found there in the morning.
You are missing the fun part.
Alert the bomb squad and media of a suspicous package that was installed on your car. Let the media circus begin, and the humiliation of the police department take a black eye in the media and on TV.
Rub their noses in it.
Dude
Heard of maintenance mode on your cell phone. NSA can pinpoint your exact location even when your not using it.
Nice thing about having an enclosed garage. It’s part of the house, so intrusion there is a problem for the intruder if he is caught.
>> Alert the bomb squad and media... Rub their noses in it.
I like the way you think.
And I thought *I* was devious and cunning. I will take a lesson from you. Any more good ideas? :-)
This would be interesting. If they were following my movements today, they would have trailed me to the grocery and to the school where I pick up my grandkids. It would be ho-hum time for the Feds.
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Yes, if you aren’t doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about!
>> NSA can pinpoint your exact location even when your not using it.
Well, technically, they can pinpoint the location of the *cell phone*. Which is not necessarily *your* location.
And actually, *pinpoint* is an exaggeration. They can tell what cell it’s in, which isn’t all that “pinpoint”.
But your point is well taken, anyhow.
The lesson is, don’t do stuff that makes NSA mad! (Or if you must, *steal* a cell phone.)
Is this the end of the Cellphone market?
Nice thing about having an enclosed garage. It’s part of the house, so intrusion there is a problem for the intruder if he is caught.
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What if you park somewhere in a public place?
After all, they installed this device; why would you install a detonator to this?
Yup, add some nice ‘framework’ to the mess they opened, and sue the living bejibers our of them. Put some behind bars, and retire to the Hawaiian islands in style.
http://www.thejammerstore.com/
For all you safety needs! Cell Sleeves Faraday Cages and GPS and Cell Jammers.
These things emit a detectable local oscillator signal.
Find it, pull it off, place next to a gps spoofer, have fun sending it to strange locations... :-)
Cell jammer sounds like fun. That could come in handy even if you don’t have a police bug on your undercarriage.
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