Posted on 09/01/2010 9:50:20 AM PDT by MissTed
Los Angeles, California (CNN) -- California's Senate has voted down a measure that would have banned plastic bags at grocery stores.
The new ban was rejected by a 21 to 14 vote late Tuesday. The ban would have included grocery stores, convenience stores and drugstores.
The California Assembly passed the legislation in June.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger had said he would have signed the measure into law, the Los Angeles Times reported.
Environmental groups such as the Sierra Club encouraged Californians to contact their state senators to push for the measure.
The group Heal the Bay produced what it calls a "mockumentary," narrated by actor Jeremy Irons, called "The Majestic Plastic Bag" that charts the life of a plastic bag. The video is on YouTube.
The measure had its opponents, too.
The American Chemistry Council criticized California Assemblywoman Julia Brownley, D-Santa Monica, who proposed the bill.
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“I don’t see why we all can’t bring our own bags and eliminate
the paper and plastic.”
Haven’t you heard of all the bacteria that builds up in reusable bags? Seriously!
Yeah I have. That’s why I wash them regularly.
Huffin’ ain’t easy.
“We have the right to do what ever we wish to do with our plastic or paper bags”
No you don’t, you pig. People like you are the reason I see plastic bags all over the place.
If you think trashing the world is a conservative’s right, you are truly delusional.
Probably the same ones who complain when they go fishing and catch plastic bags. And growing trees for paper bags is an enormous waste. The same land could be used for growing food or some other crop. Now some myopic people will call me a tree hugger just for that reason. Well, I heat my home with firewood, and my son has a lumber business I helped him start. I just see better uses for trees than making paper. There are actually many other fibrous plants that can be used for paper.
Sure we need plastic bags, and we need paper bags. I'm not saying we should ban either, in fact I'm against banning them. I say enforce litter laws and recycling.
Nothing liberal about it.
Grow up little boy.
But then again you will probably always be little.
Yep.
I heat my home with firewood also. I have a few acres and can count on storms for blowing a few trees down every year, or one dies for what ever reason. Nothing like coming in from the cold and easing your aching back against the stove or fireplace. I also like the excercise and the smell of it. Plus I don’t get a bill from Mother Nature at the end of the month!
I carry 8 because you can get more in them, but its not the governments job to force us to have them...
Didn’t say it was.
Frenchtown Dan said:
“No you don’t, you pig.”
Liberals have such a way with words. I must tell you, lib, that I am so glad that you had this ad hominem at me. It is important for Freepers to know who you libs are; you individuals who seek to turn the Constitution on its head and infringe upon our rights and liberty.
First of all, you’re jumping (as liberals typically do) to conclusions. You spat:
“No you don’t, you pig. People like you are the reason I see plastic bags all over the place.”
The assumption is that my family and I don’t care about our environment. FYI, we recycle our plastic bags. We use the bags in a variety of ways. Polluting the landscape is not one of them. Don’t bother to apologize because I know you wouldn’t really mean it.
You blathered:
“If you think trashing the world is a conservative’s right, you are truly delusional.”
Again, here is exibit A of your typical liberal rant and ad hominem attack. Can’t argue the facts (because you don’t have any), but you have no problem showing the world your Don Keyxote by making such a caustic personal attack.
I said that we have the right to do what we wish to with our own PROPERTY, and you’re accusing me of “trashing the world” as my right?! And I’m the one who is delusional?!
Hey Troll, an enema will clear up that head congestion. If that doesn’t work, try Preparation H. This should reduce cerebral swelling, and may help you to think clearly.
You are such a hypocrite. You are the one who started this diatribe by calling me a lib. And you did take what I said out of context. You picked one line and honed in on that, talk about jumping to conclusions. If you go back and read the entire thread, you will see that we are not very far apart in our way of thinking, but perhaps you are just a bit too myopic for that.
I said:
“How about punishing those who are not responsible enough?”
Punish people whom the government feels is not “responsible enough”?! You’re kidding, yes? Tell me you’re kidding.”
This was my first response to you. So, where’s the “lib” here? Apparently, it’s invisible. Where’s the diatribe? Perhaps you think diatribe is a group of people, because there is no diatribe in this response to your post.
You said:
“And you did take what I said out of context. You picked one line and honed in on that, talk about jumping to conclusions.”
You can’t even understand your own comments. You said:
“How about enforcing litter laws? How about enforcing recycling? How about punishing those who are not responsible enough?”
I’ll break this down for you. Along with stating that litter laws should be enforced, which I agree with IN PART because it is a law, you went on in that very sentence to say that individuals should be punished for failing to be “responsible enough”. Responsible enough? I did not realize the fed. govern. had a department whose duty it is to enforce “responsibility”. Are you getting this, troll?
We are as far apart in thinking as libs are from conservatives.
Here is your second post:
“Try keeping things in context, ok? Enforcing litter and recycling laws.”
You’re the troll who claimed I was taking your comment out of context.
In my response to you (post 80) there is no personal attack. And if you’re trying to build a case around “...liberal talking points...” I would suggest you buy a clue because it isn’t a personal attack. It’s pointing out that your statement is one typically expressed by liberals.
AND YOUR RESPONSE TO POST 80:
“No you don’t, you pig. People like you are the reason I see plastic bags all over the place.
If you think trashing the world is a conservative’s right, you are truly delusional.”
Oh, yeah. I’m myopic. [[[sarcasm]]]
You see, your ad hominem attacks are a confirmation that you, along with your position on plastic bags (talk about a minor issue), lead me to see that you are a troll. I substantiated my accusation by drawing conclusions based on your comments. You played the, “You see!, you see!, you’re a hypocrite because you called me a lib!” card to try and redirect my justified accusation.
You are foaming at the mouth because you’ve been recognized as a troll on this site. You may as well own up to it.
Maybe you were an abused child, or bullied in school, or have some sort of substance abuse problem, because you are one hate-filled scumbag. Very liberal traits also I must add.
Do the world a favor and take a flying leap off of a tall building.
FRENCHTOWN DAN SAID:
“Maybe you were an abused child, or bullied in school, or have some sort of substance abuse problem, because you are one hate-filled scumbag. Very liberal traits also I must add.
Do the world a favor and take a flying leap off of a tall building.”
“...maybe you never graduated elementary school.”
“You know, it’s @ssholes like you....”
“...what your worm riddled brain responds with,...’
“No you don’t, you pig.”
“You are such a hypocrite.”
“....you are just a bit too myopic for that.”
“...you are one hate-filled scumbag.”
And you, TROLL, are calling me hate-filled scumbag?!
Thank you kindly for showing us all that you’re a troll.
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