Posted on 09/02/2010 6:21:27 AM PDT by tlb
The Big Bang was the result of the inevitable laws of physics and did not need God to spark the creation of the Universe, Stephen Hawking has concluded.
In his latest book, The Grand Design, an extract of which is published in Eureka magazine in The Times, Hawking said: “Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist.”
“It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the Universe going.”
In June this year Prof Hawking told a Channel 4 series that he didn't believe that a "personal" God existed. He told Genius of Britain: "The question is: is the way the universe began chosen by God for reasons we can't understand, or was it determined by a law of science? I believe the second. If you like, you can call the laws of science 'God', but it wouldn't be a personal God that you could meet, and ask questions."
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Amen.
Matthew 7:14
For narrow is the gate, and straitened the way, that leadeth unto life, and few are they that find it.
FR is to be applauded for allowing Stephen Hawking’s religion to be posted “front and center” in the Extended News forum.
Hopefully, discerning Christians will take a fresh look at Hawkings’ deliberately atheist version of the big bang (as quietly admitted by none other than Hawkings himself) in light of Matthew 7:16.
What strikes me is the fact that Hawking has no advantage over any other person on earth—no special access—to knowledge about God.
And Hawking’s particular logical errors are described in the first several posts of this thread.
Hey Steve-o, who created the laws of physics?
In the absence of spacetime geometry, how does gravity exist again?
Sounds like Dr. Hawking is letting someone else do his writing these days.
Yeah, from who? Why are there laws at all? Such a ‘deep’ thinker /not.
Interesting idea, but how do you perform an experiment to demonstrate it?
The never ending efforts on the part of man to write God, or the need for Him, out of the picture.
Interpretation and Semantics.
IMHO, The Bible refers to SIN. God refers, in the Bible, to all men being sinful, in one way or another.
Being a 'good person' is an entirely different matter.
YOU are both, 'a very good person', but I know each of you has sinned.
Well, I don’t go to my priest to find out about black holes, dark matter and cosmology.
But I imagine if I did, whatever he said would sound as stupid a Hawkins on theology.
A wise man knows his limitations.
Sure he does, he just thinks he is that higher intelligence.
A man asks God, "what is a million years to you?", God replied, "A second." Then the man asked God what a million dollars was to him, and God replied, "A penny."
Then the man asked God if he could get a penny from him? And God answered, "Yes, in a second."
(forgive me if that has already been said a dozen times.)
“The question is: is the way the universe began chosen by God for reasons we can’t understand, or was it determined by a law of science?”
Science didn’t exist until God created man. Science is the human mind’s way of explaining the environment around it. God needs no such artificial prop and simply ‘IS’.
All GOD has done, IS.
Science, while very helpful, is not the ‘absolute truth’, and even the most basic of it’s principles are being constantly modified as we find something ‘new’.
It is simply the best explanation our mind can find for explaining the environment around us. And it’s subject to change.
One must admit that even if they do not believe that the description in the Bible is the real truth , it has not changed for 2000 years. (That I know of)
I remember this from Hitchhikers’ Guide:
Now it is such a bizarrely improbably coincidence that anything so mindbogglingly useful could have evolved by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
The argument goes something like this: “I refuse to prove that I exist,” says God, “for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.”
“But,” says Man, “the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED”
“Oh dear,” says God, “I hadn’t thought of that,” and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
Ask God....
But if you can’t do that, consider Paul Davies’ explanation of two planes of existence, the natural and supernatural. If you don’t accept that, then we don’t have anything to talk about....
Just in case you haven’t seen this.
Hey Stephen...how did the very first atom get created?
“I refuse to prove that I exist,” says God, “for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.”
Someone hasn’t actually read what God has told us, then.
Rom 1:18-20
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of human beings who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
Extremely overrated!!!
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