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Open letter to conservatives who back same-sex marriage
WND ^ | September 6, 2010 | David Kupelain

Posted on 09/06/2010 9:57:15 AM PDT by LonelyCon

Just two years ago, supporting homosexual marriage was such an extreme, politically radioactive position that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton – both Alinskyite progressives and long-time gay-rights supporters – saw fit to publicly and repeatedly declare their opposition to same-sex marriage.

Today, as the homosexual newspaper the Washington Blade puts it, "conservatives have taken the leadership role in achieving marriage equality."

That's right. Not only have high-profile conservatives like Glenn Beck, "The View's" Elizabeth Hasselbeck, Laura Bush, Dick Cheney and many others publicly offered their ringing endorsement of men marrying men and women marrying women, but some on the right are, as the Blade reports, actually leading the charge.

Case in point: George W. Bush's solicitor general Ted Olson has been dedicating his time as one of the two lead attorneys who successfully challenged California's Proposition 8, which had enshrined in the state's constitution the fact that, as Hillary Clinton put it, "marriage is as a marriage always has been, between a man and a woman."

Indeed, proclaims the Blade, when it comes to the battle to legalize same-sex marriage, it is conservatives who "have achieved the most important success so far as they are the most willing and most able to take the case to the Supreme Court."

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And S.E. Cupp, a young conservative Daily Caller columnist and frequent Fox pundit, goes so far as to say, "Conservatism and gay rights are actually natural allies. Conservatism rightly seeks to keep the government out of our private lives, and when you strip away the politics of pop culture, it's this assertion of privacy and freedom that the gay rights movement is essentially making."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conservatives; homosexualagenda; marriage
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To: little jeremiah

I’ve noticed several who were retreads.


221 posted on 09/06/2010 4:44:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: little jeremiah

It would have been much more believable aimed at me.
*chuckle*


222 posted on 09/06/2010 4:45:03 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: little jeremiah

Yes, yes, and yes.

Which is exactly the argument against Roe v. Wade. Abortion was already legal in those jurisdictions where the populace supported and illegal where they didn’t. Exactly as it should be.

If we believe in the Constitution and in federalism, this is the only logical position...otherwise we’re just asking for unconstitutional activism on our behalf instead of on the left’s behalf.

You realize the most all murder laws are state laws, right? If the residents of a particular state were so idiotic as to wish to legalize murder, they would be well within their constitutional rights to do so. Why should the things you cite above be any different?

Hank


223 posted on 09/06/2010 4:45:52 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Where's the diversity on MSNBC? Olbermann, Schultz, Matthews, Maddow.....all white males!)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Okay, I see your point. Some states might have different penalties for rape, bestiality, etc.


224 posted on 09/06/2010 4:47:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: little jeremiah; County Agent Hank Kimball

“In New York, they make you marry the cow. Then you get to meet her father...”
*Baaaaaad!*


225 posted on 09/06/2010 4:48:31 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: little jeremiah

Correct. They caved.


226 posted on 09/06/2010 4:59:48 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Sola Veritas
The man’s daughter is a lesbian. He is letting parental love get in the way of common sense and morality.

*********************

Agreed. I understand that, but it is wrong.

227 posted on 09/06/2010 5:05:44 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Darksheare

LOL!


228 posted on 09/06/2010 5:16:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: trisham

Sentiment should not get in the way of truth.

And love is possible even if you disapprove of someone’s choices. Disapproval doesn’t mean “I don’t love you”. If we only loved those we approved of, what sort of love is that?


229 posted on 09/06/2010 5:17:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: little jeremiah

I agree. I could not agree more.


230 posted on 09/06/2010 5:28:11 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
If the residents of a particular state were so idiotic as to wish to legalize murder, they would be well within their constitutional rights to do so.

An idiotic claim.

Obviously you've never read the Fifth or the Fourteenth Amendments. Or, if you have, your reading comprehension skills really stink.

231 posted on 09/06/2010 5:38:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With God, Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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To: little jeremiah
One of the head dudes whose name I can’t remember (and don’t have my files handy unfortunately) who was at first on board with the removal, now has reversed his stance.

Robert Spitzer.
Gay activists started demanding "homosexuality disorder" be dropped around 1970. It was Spitzer who got it changed to "sexual orientation disturbance" around 1974.

He began promoting reparative therapy around 2001 believing highly motivated people can change their sexual orientation.

Spitzer now believes DSM has lead to the medicalization of 20-30 percent of the population who may not have had any serious mental problems.

I offer ADD/ADHD as a primary example of turning "being a boy" into a disorder treatable by drugs.

I am a fan of Psychiatry as observational science. But too often their diagnosis and/or research reflect a political agenda. (The recent study of children of Lesbian couples turning out as good or better than the children of heterosexual couples - funded by a lesbian feminist group, using hand-picked feminist professors)

232 posted on 09/06/2010 5:48:35 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: little jeremiah

“His Uncle used to love him but she died.....”(with apologies to Roger Miller)


233 posted on 09/06/2010 6:02:04 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: whence911

There’s nothing to discuss.


234 posted on 09/06/2010 6:20:36 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: whence911; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge
ZOTted by Jim Thompson himself!


235 posted on 09/06/2010 6:26:41 PM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: cammie
Tell us, once upon a time, what impact did normalizing the abomination of nature have upon the sociobiological fitness of societies that have done so?
 
 
Humans are mammals.  
Mammals reproduce HETEROsexually.

236 posted on 09/06/2010 6:28:01 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: cammie

Free will allows individuals to REJECT His gift of reconciliation.

What if, when Jesus said “go and sin no more”, the woman at the well had replied: “NO, I like swinging with men who are not my husband and I refuse to change my BEHAVIOR”?

Rejection of grace; that’s what.

Abomination is as Abomination does.


237 posted on 09/06/2010 6:34:13 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: cammie; mkjessup; darkwing104
Once upon a time, marrying someone of a different race was considered to be an actionable crime...

Nope. It's not the same. The race baiting just doesn't work.

A better scenario is that for now it's illegal for you to marry a Golden Retriever. But don't worry; the way our nation is going you'll soon be able to fulfill your dream.

238 posted on 09/06/2010 6:34:42 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: whence911
A few years ago, some posters took over the argument and ran everyone who disgreed with them off the threads and the site. Then the owner came out and agreed with them with his declaration against "homosexualism." Many good conservative people have been banned or left because if they disagreed with any one point, they were called pro-agenda, anti-FR, and worse. We lost a lot of discussion when that happened. But that's the way it is September 6, 2010..............

You scared me for a minute, comrade. I feared you might name some of the unpersons!

You have to admit their loss, and the putative impoverishment of conservative debate, has been a small price to pay for the glorious freedom of correct thought! [Stultis sips his "Victory" gin]

239 posted on 09/06/2010 6:40:21 PM PDT by Stultis (Democrats. Still devoted to the three S's: Slavery, Segregation and Socialism.)
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To: TheOldLady

Now THAT is eerie...


240 posted on 09/06/2010 6:58:41 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Marking Time On The Government's Dime)
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