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Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home ...30 "gang bangers attacked"
CBS ^ | 9/7/2010 | CBS

Posted on 09/08/2010 6:49:41 AM PDT by mikelets456

UNIONDALE, N.Y. (CBS 2) — He was arrested for protecting his property and family.

But it’s how the Long Island man did it that police say crossed the line.

He got an AK-47 assault rifle, pulled the trigger and he ended up in jail, reports CBS 2’s Pablo Guzman.

George Grier said he had to use his rifle on Sunday night to stop what he thought was going to be an invasion of his Uniondale home by a gang he thought might have been the vicious “MS-13.” He said the whole deal happened as he was about to drive his cousin home.

“I went around and went into the house, ran upstairs and told my wife to call the police. I get the gun and I go outside and I come into the doorway and now, by this time, they are in the driveway, back here near the house. I tell them, you know, ‘Can you please leave?’ Grier said.

Grier said the five men dared him to use the gun; and that their shouts brought another larger group of gang members in front of his house.

“He starts threatening my family, my life. ‘Oh you’re dead. I’m gonna kill your family and your babies. You’re dead.’ So when he says that, 20 others guys come rushing around the corner. And so I fired four warning shots into the grass,” Grier said.

(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: control; gangs; gun; immigration; importingcrime; longisland; ms13; newyork; uniondale
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To: The_Victor

God bless Texas.... !!


21 posted on 09/08/2010 7:45:38 AM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: montyspython

Well there is the cost of cleanup and sending them to the morgue.


22 posted on 09/08/2010 7:45:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure

“Can the governor pardon people like this?”

Our “governor” is the despicable Patterson.


23 posted on 09/08/2010 7:45:54 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Character is defined by how we treat those who society says have no value.)
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To: dfwgator

This could be covered by the Stimulus bill, qualifies as one of Obama’s shovel ready projects.


24 posted on 09/08/2010 7:48:42 AM PDT by montyspython
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To: razorback-bert

From what I’m told parts of Long Island are now a human cesspool.


25 posted on 09/08/2010 7:50:22 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: mikelets456

The man defending his home should get a medal for defending himself against that scum.

If only he had killed them all. If he had, he should’ve been awarded a cash prize!


26 posted on 09/08/2010 7:58:42 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: Peter from Rutland

The last time I looked at an AK47 at a gun show, the price was $15K, and that was probably a decade ago. A few years later I bought the semi auto version with a couple of spare 30 round mags for something like $200.

I’d take long odds that he didn’t have an AK, but that’s just me.

With 30 gang members threatening to kill me and mine, I don’t think I’d waste time on warning shots: I’ve only one round per person without reloading. The threat has been made and they have the means to carry it out, so what other option do I have to protect our lives?


27 posted on 09/08/2010 7:59:58 AM PDT by benewton (I)
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To: razorback-bert

Uniondale is near East Meadow and Hempstead. My guess is the gangs migrated out of Hempstead.

I lived in uniondale for a short time. I got out of there asap.


28 posted on 09/08/2010 8:01:14 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: dfwgator

*Shooting a gang member should be a ten-dollar fine, you can mail it in.*

It should be a $100 reward, presented by the mayor....


29 posted on 09/08/2010 8:03:09 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: dfwgator

*Well there is the cost of cleanup and sending them to the morgue.*

Bullets for the gun: $4.87
Clean up and trip to the morgue: $2750
Getting rid of 30 gang members: Priceless


30 posted on 09/08/2010 8:05:42 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: Robert357

I come from LI. You seem to know a lot about the law there, are you involved in that regard?

I can tell you in the area where I lived on LI, the police can show up in a matter of a couple of minutes. They are very fast there. So if you have the time to go outside, and fire warning shots, the POV of the jury might be that you didn’t conduct yourself properly.

Years ago a friend and I were on the porch and heard a woman scream. (On LI) We called the cops, and I swear they were there in 60 seconds. So even conservative Long Islanders may be a little more intolerant of situations like this.

Where I live now you can wait hours for police to arrive. So juries are much more likely to side with the homeowner.


31 posted on 09/08/2010 8:08:52 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: mikelets456

Firing “warning shots” are illegal in most states.


32 posted on 09/08/2010 8:14:18 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (0bama, I'll stop calling you a dog when you stop treating us like a fire hydrant (Palin/Cheney 2012)
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To: mikelets456

His REAL transgression—threatening to remove democrat voters and the eventual breeders of democrat voters from the population. That is the MOST unforgivable of crimes in New York.


33 posted on 09/08/2010 8:42:11 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: mikelets456
He said the whole deal happened as he was about to drive his cousin home.

Don't they ever check grammar any more? I think the proper ebonics here is "he cousin home."

34 posted on 09/08/2010 8:50:45 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: dfwgator

Shooting a gang member should be a ten-dollar fine, you can mail it in.”

No— Shooting a gang member should be a minimum $100 bounty. You can collect in any manner you chose.

Sorta like the ears/paws of fox that got me a bounty when I was a kid. Made the chickens happier, also.


35 posted on 09/08/2010 9:49:24 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: mikelets456

If I’m ever surrounded by a group gangbangers threatening my family’s life, I can guaran-damn-tee it will be on the 6:00 news.


36 posted on 09/08/2010 11:13:59 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: I still care
I come from LI. You seem to know a lot about the law there, are you involved in that regard?

I can tell you in the area where I lived on LI, the police can show up in a matter of a couple of minutes. They are very fast there. So if you have the time to go outside, and fire warning shots, the POV of the jury might be that you didn’t conduct yourself properly.

Not involved with law enforcement, but have been involved with shooting sports since I was in Jr High nearly 50 years ago. I am on the west or Left coast. At the range and gun collectors association I belong to we have some strong educational programs on the rights and responsibilities of firearm ownership. The ignorance of the media and Hollywood as to firearms has been a hot topic for many years. It is truly interesting to read local reports saying that police should shoot to wound rather than kill with firearms in their columns and then find out that if a policeman did what the reporter suggested that the policeman would be fired for not following department procedures and that the city/county would likely be subject to a huge civil lawsuit. The use of "deadly force" is a topic that every American should learn about and that every firearm owner should know by heart for the jurisdictions where they live and work.

37 posted on 09/08/2010 12:43:03 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Robert357

Thanks so much. You taught me some today.


38 posted on 09/08/2010 1:06:31 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Robert357

By the way, in the article it says the owner knew the police would know because of “shot spotter” technology employed by the police in the area, and they detected two shots in nearby Roosevelt (which IS a cesspool) that night.

Does anyone know about this?


39 posted on 09/08/2010 1:11:29 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: dfwgator

With a deduction for the cost of the ammunition plus wear and tear on the firearm...


40 posted on 09/08/2010 10:58:01 PM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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