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Imam TV Shock: Moving Mosque Would Endanger U.S. Troops. (Is he threatening us???)
The Blaze ^ | 09/09/10 | Scott Baker

Posted on 09/08/2010 11:55:01 PM PDT by American Dream 246

“If we move from that location, the story will be that the radicals have taken over the discourse.”

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1 posted on 09/08/2010 11:55:02 PM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246

(my post at 9:38, during his interview)

Right now at this moment the GZ Imam is THREATENING us on CNN. He says he cannot move his mosque because it is a “national security” issue...that if “he changes his mind now, the Muslim WORLD will explode...it will be worse than the cartoon issue”.


2 posted on 09/08/2010 11:59:20 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: American Dream 246

They see weakness in America.

They see everyone from the AG, Petraeus, Hillary and many many celebrities all trying to get Americans diverted away from the International Koran burn-off come 9/11.

Islam can not be bargained with, it won’t tire, it will never stop coming at us.

If a fair fight cannot be won or is in a perpetual stalemate then its time to get “nasty”.


3 posted on 09/09/2010 12:00:51 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: American Dream 246

As Ann Coulter stated: the only thing that wouldn’t embolden the enemy over there is a complete surrender to Shariah law.


4 posted on 09/09/2010 12:05:49 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Eye of Unk

And sadly Sarah also. This is exactly what’s happening here. Obama is obviously on their side - Petraeus...and now the entire political arena, INCLUDING conservatives, are fighting to protect their koran and religion - not the bible or the US flag..no no...the koran and islam... These people are very bright and they are playing us so well. We are definitely loosing the argument.


5 posted on 09/09/2010 12:06:57 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: roses of sharon
If I expel gas from my nether regions, there will be an effect somewhere. If you've bothered to notice Moslems believe in a clockwork universe. Which means that Islam must necessarily be concerned with such expulsions of gas ~ all of them in fact!

For those of us who have observed the relativistic nature of the universe, and have examined in detail the experiments proving its quantum nature, it becomes harder and harder to figure out what these guys are saying.

Does the Imam imagine that the celebratory mosque has to be in "that spot" or the universe will spin out of control? Or, is he telling us it's his way or the highway, and there'll be IEDs all over the place? Or does he mean that Allah Says?

Whatever it is that he means I've been saying all along that this is the last large building still standing that was hit with substantial chunks of Mohammad Atta's attack plane, and that somebody somewhere wants to COMPLETE the attack by taking down this particular building.

It's not about the mosque or community center ~ it's about the building there now!

6 posted on 09/09/2010 12:07:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

It’s his way or ...death to America. That’s what he is telling us!


7 posted on 09/09/2010 12:10:34 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246

Those that we support are taking a page or chapter out of the enemies own playbbok...the Koran.

I have not lost faith in my circle of political people that have denounced Koran burning, I think they are throwing an act of Al Taqyaa back at Islam, its encouraged to lie to the enemy is whats written in the Koran, I don’t practice Islam but I’m willing to adopt the same rule they use against us.


8 posted on 09/09/2010 12:10:48 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: American Dream 246

Those that we support are taking a page or chapter out of the enemies own playbook...the Koran.

I have not lost faith in my circle of political people that have denounced Koran burning, I think they are throwing an act of Al Taqyaa back at Islam, its encouraged to lie to the enemy is whats written in the Koran, I don’t practice Islam but I’m willing to adopt the same rule they use against us.


9 posted on 09/09/2010 12:11:09 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: American Dream 246

Yes, he’s threatening us. Islam has always spread by force or the threat of force. That’s a historical fact.


10 posted on 09/09/2010 12:11:53 AM PDT by matt1234 (The only crisis 0bama can manage is one he intentionally created.)
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To: American Dream 246

Here it comes. Now that 0baMao has capitulated to the jihadis on the Koran burning pastor more demands are on their way.


11 posted on 09/09/2010 12:19:30 AM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: matt1234

Yes but it was a time, a very long time ago, a man named Charles Martel did not buy their rethoric. He push them out of Europe. We need Paul Revere and Charles Martel right now...badly...where are our “cojones”???


12 posted on 09/09/2010 12:23:44 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246
Why is this such a big deal?

He's simply agreeing with with one of our high-profile generals.
There is a bigger story here, why isn't that being articulated?

13 posted on 09/09/2010 12:23:48 AM PDT by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: American Dream 246
Obviously an unaffiliated church with 50 members has a lot more influence in the world than U.S. Senators and Congressmen.

"This war is lost!" - Senator Harry Reid

"And the is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night terrorizing kids and children." - Senator John F'n Kerry

"Shamefully, we now learn that Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management: U.S. management." - Senator Ted Kennedy

"We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there." - Senator Barack 0bama

"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime — Pol Pot or others — that had no concern for human beings," - Senator Dick Durbin

"We've got to ask, why is this man (Osama bin Laden) so popular around the world? Why are people so supportive of him in many countries that are riddled with poverty?"

Murray said... that bin Laden has been "out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. We haven't done that." - Senator Patty Murray

Don't anyone hold their breath waiting for the State Dept. or a top general to come out and condemn any of this as putting our troops in danger.

14 posted on 09/09/2010 12:30:43 AM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Publius6961

Exactly. Petraeus is doing more harm that good and he is giving that thug the words to beat us. Thank you Petraeus. General, you are not supposed to defend the “president” you are supposed to defend The Constitution!!! Now the islamists are having a great day with that nonsense. They must think of us “what a weak country”.


15 posted on 09/09/2010 12:30:45 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: TigersEye

I hope when they have that Koran bonfire somebody will have the intelligence to add something extra to it.

If I were to make a suggestion and this is for the possibility that there may be an escorted Fire Department there awaiting to put out the fire that they should add some carbide powder, water will only make it burn hotter.

It will be a revolutionary act if Obama demands it be stopped and endorses officials to step in. We all know who he capitulates to.


16 posted on 09/09/2010 12:34:40 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: American Dream 246

These dune baboons need to be enlightened..by “the light of a thousand suns”!


17 posted on 09/09/2010 12:36:05 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: American Dream 246
He pushed them back into Spain ~ which still is part of Europe.

Eventually Rome reached out and crushed the sort of Christianity that inspired Charles ~ and replaced it with the kind still seen in Europe.

18 posted on 09/09/2010 12:37:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: American Dream 246

Do they ever NOT threaten us?


19 posted on 09/09/2010 12:38:32 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: American Dream 246
Islamists consistently show the weakness of their religion and their "god"- they're always having to defend him and fight for him anytime "allah" is offended.

In contrast, the Lord God of Heaven, through Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior and the Holy Spirit, says, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay." In the meantime, we're to love our enemies and do good for those who hate us. That's because OUR God is a mighty God and He sees the hearts of all men. It's not up to us to "pay back" people....if the Lord wants to have somebody "whacked", he'll do it in His good time.

20 posted on 09/09/2010 12:42:08 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: Eye of Unk
It will be a revolutionary act if Obama demands it be stopped and endorses officials to step in.

I would say he has already given local officials tacit endorsement to do what they have to do to stop it with his full court press from his lackeys. I'm sure we'll never see his fingerprints on a direct order but if the Feds get involved in stopping it in any way it will be rather, how do you say it?, transparent.

21 posted on 09/09/2010 12:44:19 AM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: American Dream 246

Dang! And I only have 5000 rounds on hand!


22 posted on 09/09/2010 12:50:09 AM PDT by 'smith
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To: American Dream 246
General Pershing
23 posted on 09/09/2010 12:50:50 AM PDT by USAF70 (America is not 'governed' by the President or Congress. America is governed by the U.S.Constitution.)
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To: TigersEye

The internet chatter of some Muslim extremists websites has quite a few of them willing to become martyrs at the church in Florida.

I would bet there is indeed a bomb scare and some officials cordon off the area and shut it down out of public safety.

It won’t stop the blazing trend this has become, its not going to be just this church, there will be many Americans grabbing whatever version of a Koran and burning it in some devilish manner like their own little celebration and on the privacy of their property.

CAIR must be going nuts sending out requests for thousands of copies of the free Koran not knowing what will happen to it.

And I doubt this will end after 9/11.

The Muslim governement backed by the head Caliphate Obama can give all the orders he wants but it won’t stop this, nor will people like Angelina Jolie. They are playing smart by condemming this and frankly I don’t blame them, if I were in a precarious position I would lie and cover my behind on it.

And then later I will do my act of defiance against Islam, against a Muslim President against everything that Islam has inserted into my culture.


24 posted on 09/09/2010 12:57:00 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: muawiyah

Thanks for the history leaason muawiyah :-) I was not sure how the story ended. I should google it and learn it by heart. Can come handy these days.


25 posted on 09/09/2010 1:00:08 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: roses of sharon

It may just be the opposite. If built it may send the message we are weak and can be manipulated with political correctness and intimidation. The Imam took no responsibility for the current situation. His talk of being a peacemaker was nauseating.


26 posted on 09/09/2010 1:02:58 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: USAF70

Thats a keeper!

I have changed my preferred choice for some of my cartridges and have quite a stock of Barnes bullets, they have a unique deep hollow cavity. Little bit of bacon rind down there for emphasis.

And I have plenty of leftover bacon grease, actually I am going to refine it a bit and see how it works as a case lube for all my cartridges.

Maybe I will start an online business with pork rendered case lube.

I agree we need someone like this nowadays, and when it happens I am sure the world will condemn him, but I will remember history and will be thankful someone had courage.

There is no co-existence with Islam.


27 posted on 09/09/2010 1:03:21 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: opentalk

Islamic peace.... when all those who live obey...and only those who obey live.


28 posted on 09/09/2010 1:10:27 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: American Dream 246

Is he threatening us ?
Yes he is .


29 posted on 09/09/2010 1:13:20 AM PDT by Lera
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To: muawiyah

It clear he is making a threat. Either the ragheads build the mosque on that spot or there will be big trouble in the form of attacks on us.

The response needs to be “Go and f*ck yourself and the Camel you rode in on”. These asswipes will see any conciliation to what they want as a weakness and will then increase their aggressiveness.


30 posted on 09/09/2010 1:54:28 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: 101voodoo
It clear he is making a threat.

This is why we start by burning a few korans then seeing if they up the stakes. This is a war, folks. Are we going to succumb to terrorist threats?

31 posted on 09/09/2010 2:14:55 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Publius6961
There is a bigger story here, why isn't that being articulated?

The bigger story is that liberals have thrown away their own sacred principle of "separation of church and state" to side with an alien and hostile religion. They turn a blind eye to that loathsome Phelps guy who desecrates funerals of our military to invite a suit that will bring him millions. In the name of his "free speech", we have to shut up and take whatever crap he dishes out.

Since the Supreme Court said that burning the American flag was "protected symbolic free speech", will liberals and cowards elevate the koran above that principle? This pastor is free to burn his own Bible, the American flag, his money, and anything else that does not create a fire hazard.

But now that islamic terrorists, their sympathizers, and self-proclaimed dhimmis oppose his First Amendment rights, the entire country is being threatened by another cowardly attack if we don't submit.

These murderous coward islamists have murdered innocent Americans for no reason. Will they try to kill us deader if they now think they have a reason? I'm afraid that the majority of our "best and brightest" have proclaimed the USA a "dhimmi nation" rather than standing firmly for the First Amendment and our highest standard, that of "separation of church and state". Their greatest principles were the first ones they threw overboard upon reading a press release.

32 posted on 09/09/2010 2:24:54 AM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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To: Eye of Unk
And I have plenty of leftover bacon grease.....

In liquid form and a toothpick. A dab in each hollowpoint.

33 posted on 09/09/2010 2:25:13 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Republic of Texas
Do they ever NOT threaten us?
Quit asking pertinent questions. You'll be seen as impertinent. /sarcasm
34 posted on 09/09/2010 2:30:02 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: roses of sharon

>> that if “he changes his mind now, the Muslim WORLD will explode...it will be worse than the cartoon issue”.

So, it’s about his damn interests, the interests of his cohorts, but to hell with those that were murdered on 9-11 and the rest of us that stand in opposition to what is clearly a monument to Islam’s aggression against the West.


35 posted on 09/09/2010 2:36:28 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: American Dream 246; roses of sharon
"Is he threatening us???"

Yes, absolutely it's a threat. They're attempting to hold us hostage in our own country and force us to become sharia compliant using threats and acts of terror.

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roses of sharon wrote:

"He says he cannot move his mosque because it is a “national security” issue...that if “he changes his mind now, the Muslim WORLD will explode..."

Ah, more threats of jihad. Well...I've got your jihad, you rag headed heathen. The only path to peace with Islam is to eradicate it/them. There is no course for peaceful coexistence, not in this country, not in this world. If you don't believe me, just ask them.

36 posted on 09/09/2010 2:38:04 AM PDT by Semper Mark (0bama: "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.")
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To: American Dream 246

Watch for Eric Holder and the Department of Injustice to file a suit claiming discrimination against those who don’t let the Ground Zero Celebratory Mosque be built....


37 posted on 09/09/2010 2:38:28 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: American Dream 246

So, let’s all run and hide because the muzzies are going to get mad and attack us. Wonder why they haven’t already attacked us. Oh, wait. They have!

This country is doomed if we don’t grow some.


38 posted on 09/09/2010 2:42:37 AM PDT by Terry Mross (o)
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To: American Dream 246

If I was in Florida I’d go to the koran burning simply because the man has the right to do so. He needs as much support as the mosque builders have.


39 posted on 09/09/2010 2:44:06 AM PDT by Terry Mross (o)
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To: Markos33
Ah, more threats of jihad.

It's time to fire a shot across their bow.

40 posted on 09/09/2010 2:44:19 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: roses of sharon

That’s precisely the reason NOT to let it ever get built.

Interesting how opponents are labeled bigots, yet it’s the Obama administration, General Petraeus, and this guy who are CONFIRMING that Muslims have a serious violence problem.


41 posted on 09/09/2010 2:55:25 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: American Dream 246

This kind of “if / or” argument ignores history. The Islamic ‘Radicals’ have attacked the USofA ever since they got sufficient petrodollars to be heard outside their own borders. To say that persuasion to move this “in-your-face” Cordoba House will change even a single rabid anti-American radical or to keep one from being formed is so ludicrous as to be unworthy of further consideration.


42 posted on 09/09/2010 2:59:04 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: roses of sharon
...He says he cannot move his mosque because it is a “national security” issue...that if “he changes his mind now, the Muslim WORLD will explode...it will be worse than the cartoon issue”.

The Mosque does not even exist right now. So he himself is causing the National Security issue. He has become a national security threat. Needs to be arrested immediately.

43 posted on 09/09/2010 3:10:20 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: cvq3842
Interesting how opponents are labeled bigots, yet it’s the Obama administration, General Petraeus, and this guy who are CONFIRMING that Muslims have a serious violence problem.

Worse still, they are admitting they have no way to protect any Americans from retaliations. That includes our military in harms way hamstrung with ridiculous ROE restrictions. We are on our own, but that should be obvious to anyone located near our southern border. Remember the World Trade Center. Never forget. Be save and be prepared.

44 posted on 09/09/2010 3:19:15 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: American Dream 246

Enough of the word and Mind Games Camel Jockey,Islamists flew Airplanes into the Buildings slaughtering thousands of Innocent people,you dont build a 13 story monument to the Perpetrators anywhere near the site PERIOD,it is sacred Burial Ground. Go fix your slum buildings you putz or take care of all the 2 story Mosques you have in New York already. Thirteen story Mosque to Celebrate your victory over the Great satan ,PALEAEEEEEEESE,take a Hike.


45 posted on 09/09/2010 3:24:32 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: USAF70
Good but I'm thinking on a much grander scale.


46 posted on 09/09/2010 3:30:02 AM PDT by Salamander (I'm everything I pretend to be.)
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To: American Dream 246
“If we move from that location, the story will be that the radicals have taken over the discourse.”

The radical Islamists have a hair trigger for mob violence as is evidenced by riots, murder, and mayhem in connection with pictures or critical writings or rumors about defacing or destroying their holy book, the Qur'an.

But where are the demonstrations in connection with their destruction of Christian churches, killing of Christians, burning of Bibles, our burning of Bibles so as not to disturb their sensibilities? When will we stop behaving like the vanquished, and stand up for our God, our culture, our way of life?

47 posted on 09/09/2010 3:45:59 AM PDT by olezip
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48 posted on 09/09/2010 3:51:01 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: American Dream 246
It is a threat and there is a much bigger story behind it.

He is correct, the building of the Ground Zero mosque will signify the end of hostilities on the other hand if Americans do not submit and allow the building of the mosque, then we will face the consequences.

This is not a project of Imam Rauf alone, our elected Muslim president Barack Hussein Obama is more deeply involved in this than you can imagine and if you dont think so then take a step back, clear your head and ask yourself the simple question as Why a President of the United States would come out in such strong support of a "private real estate project" and why would the State Department finance his junket to the the Middle East during the month of Ramadan (the significance of which will elude almost all Americans)

One Hundred Million Dollars my FRiends, that is not chump change. That kind of financing comes from governments and not from individuals.

Rauf knows very well that in Islam the month of Ramadan is the one month in the year that the Muslim governments cannot refuse to make contributions to build the mosque.

You see Rauf cannot move the mosque now, because he sold not just the idea of building the mosque, but the location as well. The location that holds a special significance to all muslims wordwide.

49 posted on 09/09/2010 4:15:44 AM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: Eye of Unk
"...actually I am going to refine it a bit and see how it works as a case lube for all my cartridges."

I do a lot of black powder shooting, bear grease works the best but bacon grease will do in a pinch. Only bad thing about using bacon grease is the atmosphere around you starts smelling like - - - - - - burnt breakfast?!?

50 posted on 09/09/2010 4:15:44 AM PDT by USAF70 (America is not 'governed' by the President or Congress. America is governed by the U.S.Constitution.)
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