Posted on 09/09/2010 8:34:48 AM PDT by kristinn
U.S. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley this week equated an obscure Florida pastor and his congregants who plan to burn copies of the Koran on Saturday with the Muslim terrorists who killed thousands of Americans on September 11, 2001.
[T]here are a balance of interests here. But this, in our view, has the potential to inflame public opinion around the world in a way that will jeopardize American lives and American interests. It does not represent our core values as Americans. We hope it does not happen. We hope that between now and Saturday, therell be a range of voices across America that make clear to this community that this is not the way for us to commemorate 9/11. In fact, it is consistent with the radicals and bigot -- with those bigots who attacked us on 9/11, Crowley said in his briefing on Tuesday. (h/t Kristinn)
Charming.
Whether you believe people have the right to burn the Koran or not, the issue of the threat to American lives reflected in Crowleys remarks requires greater scrutiny.
Since 2005, every Muslim country -- including our coalition partners -- through the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) has signed off on a 10-Year Programme of Action (10-Year Plan) that, among other things, seeks to define slander according to Islamic Sharia law -- making Islamic slander a serious crime in every jurisdiction in the world, including the United States.
Through hate speech legislation, the notion of Islamic slander has already taken hold in Europe. Once such instance is the case of Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders who is currently on trial for hate speech. He was denied expert witness testimony to assert the truth of claims he made about Islam.
The Dutch court instead stipulated to the truth-of-all-the-facts-of-the-matter when the court stated, in language that aligns with Islamic notions of slander, that: It is irrelevant whether Wilders witnesses might prove Wilders observations [about Islam] to be correct, whats relevant is that his observations are illegal.
It doesnt matter whats true; the court says speaking truth in regard to Islam is illegal in the Netherlands because it may incite violence.
In 2009 the U.N. Human Rights Council passed a resolution (without a vote), submitted by the Obama administration, which would subordinate U.S. free speech rights to U.N. oversight standards. These standards mirror the OICs 10-Year Plan objectives.
Imposing the Islamic notion of slander in the Western world through hate speech legislation is very real. And very dangerous.
Four months after the publication of the infamous Danish cartoons of Muhammad, imams began a worldwide disinformation campaign (some creating three of the most objectionable cartoons themselves) for the purpose of inciting violence.
The threat that Muslims will self-radicalize and kill is at the very heart of the OIC campaign to squelch free speech regarding Islam when issues such as the proposed Koran burning are manipulated for that purpose. Western cultural elites are targeted to deem the free speech inappropriate thereby facilitating a cultural dilution of our commitment to free speech principles over time.
In the Koran burning iteration of the information campaign, there appears to be a coordinated media message including tie-ins to the Ground Zero mosque, Christian clergy condemning the pastors activities as unchristian to satisfy Muslim sensitivities, the State Department comparing the pastor to the 9/11 terrorists (an American citizen exercising his protected free speech rights inside America, mind you), and the U.S. Army Commanding General in Afghanistan injecting himself into Constitutional free speech issues by allocating blame for future acts of Islamic-based terrorism to Americans.
All we have to do is keep them happy and the jihadis will remain moderate? Sounds like an organized crime protection racket.
Coordinated OIC information attacks are designed to elicit submission to the OIC standard in just this way.
The subordination of First Amendment rights to Islamic law under threat of lethal jihadi attacks should be understood to be a declaration of hostility by those making the demands.
This is not just about a small town church preacher.
The preachers plan to burn Korans hit the radar screen of most Americans because they heard about the Muslim threat of concerted retaliatory violence. How is it that these groups around the Muslim world were protesting this small-town rural American preacher at the same time on the same issue? Seem a bit too coordinated? Contrived?
A staged protest of Afghanis pressured General Petraeus to comment on the planned actions of a private citizen inside the United States. Is the General saying it becomes more difficult to defeat the enemy if the enemy gets mad at us?
Was this a coordinated informational attack like the manufactured cartoon crisis, making clear to the world the objecting Muslims retain the right to kill the Florida preacher if he does not stand down?
I think so.
OIC slander campaigns are calibrated against issues like the preachers Koran burning protest or the cartoons of Muhammad. And they will always be about getting elites in the West to support Islamic standards of free speech against their own interests.
Absolutely.
Look how it's already driving the crazies crazier.
It's good theater. Very good theater.
I haven’t heard if the pastor has talked about receiving support from Americans. If he was, I doubt the msm would report it. I fully support him just to prove how whacked muslims are. I also am waiting to see any new stories about our military burning Bibles to appease the muslims. This crap makes me want to scream.
Has anyone else noticed that every jumper appears to be male?
Ann Coulter said it wisely, that this provocation is unkind to those Muslims who wish us no harm. I agree.
But... I am intrigued with all that's swirling around this objectionable, but lawful, expression of Free Speech. Where's the ACLU? The behavior of US Muslims is very instructive. We should fear Shariah more than the "religion" of Islam. As soon as we define Islam as an ideology hostile to the American way of life, the better.
But there is dishonor in acquiescing to a bully’s threats!
"Well aware that Almighty God hath created the mind free; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burdens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy Author of our religion, who being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do; that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time..."---Thomas Jefferson,---The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom, 1786
But to leave behind all teachers.
And to find a way alone, or die.
[snip]
Stop searching and learn to give love.
Be at peace Govinda.
--Siddharta
Yes, but a book cannot threaten or harm anyone. That is done by the bully.
Oh boy what a double-standard, the hypocrisy! They are protected by free speech when they burn our flag but this pastor is not?
Have ya heard the latest from the imam behind a proposed Islamic community center and mosque near ground zero? He's using the same "threat" of violence when he "cautioned that moving the facility could cause a violent backlash from Muslim extremists and endanger national security"
What horsesh*t! Now, we're going to be silenced because of the fear that the radicals will get pissed off. I say the State Dept. should tell them as soon as they stop trampling and burning our flag and/or Bible we'll reciprocate.
Americans don’t have to love the protestor in every instance, but we do have to protect the right of free speech in every instance. If we fail to do that, we will lose another huge chunk of our constitution.
The UN is trying to make it a crime of hate speech to speak out against or resist Islamic dominance. They are doing it in the name of “peace” and our elite are on board with it. We can’t stand by and let what has happened to the Euro-peons happen to us.
Burn Baby Burn
My question: How does their “tolerance” compare to our “tolerance”?...
They have been pushing our buttons for years. It doesn’t bother me one damn bit to see a Quran burning. In fact if it gets their panties in a bind, to damn bad!....SHOW SOME TOLERANCE!!!....We are just blowing off steam at your stupidity!
“It does not represent our core values as Americans.”
Uh slick, yes it does. FREEDOM IS A CORE VALUE as Americans.
“He’s using the same “threat” of violence when he “cautioned that moving the facility could cause a violent backlash from Muslim extremists and endanger national security”
Not moving it could cause a violent backlash from Americans, and endager muzzie security. Just sayin’....
There is no redeeming islam, it must be destroyed. There is no alternative.
I will never forget. EVER.
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Of course it is. There's a headline on FR right now (I haven't read it yet) that says,"INTERPOL issues global alert for increased terror threat if Koran is burned."
The US President (such that he is), the US State Dept, the Pope, etc. All saying the burning should not happen. Geeze, let's see who else we can get to jump on board.
Wait! I know... how 'bout some Hollywood celebrities? Ohhh, that's right Angelina whats-her-name already came out antiburning.
The Islamist buggers are madly stroking this (sorry about your mind's eye :-) for all it's worth.
Wonder how Thomas Sowell feels about this? Anybody Know?
Promoting the burning of someone’s holy book, whether we believe in it or not, is not right morally. There is no wisdom in burning or fouling a holy book when the believers in question are radical. This is not the way to fight Islam. This incident has put our troops in more danger.
If you care for our troops, then you can’t be for this.
The burning of the Quaran (Koran) is not the way to fight this war. It benefits no one except the enemy who will use this as ammo. It puts our troops in more danger, as well as American citizens, and the west in general.
Terry Jones and those that participate are not a Christian by these actions.
“When the inevitable fatwa calling for the preacher to be killed is issued, will it be condemed as hate speech?”
The Muzzies will go after this preacher no matter what.
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