Skip to comments.Krauthammer: Palin’s/DeMint’s endorsements of O’Donnell are destructive, capricious, irresponsible
Posted on 09/14/2010 2:02:30 AM PDT by RobinMasters
Via the Right Scoop. Theres nothing here that you havent heard before, but since true conservatives are in RINO-stomp mode towards Paul Mirengoff and John McCormack and Jim Geraghty and a bunch of other people who were conservatives in good standing as of, say, four days ago, lets make sure the stealth liberal known as Charles Krauthammer takes his licks too.
The only part of CKs monologue that I disagree with is the capricious part: Im sure Palin and DeMint made their endorsements with due deliberation, knowing how much it would please their base. (They certainly took long enough to pull the trigger.) And from a philosophical point of view, endorsing ODonnell is a win/win/win for them.
If ODonnell beats Castle and then shocks Coons in November, theyll get all the credit; if Castle pulls it out and sends ODonnell packing, they can at least tell their base that they were on the side of the angels; if, as is most likely, ODonnell beats Castle and then gets steamrolled by Coons, well, the beauty of true conservatism is that the highest priority is defeating RINOs, not Democrats.
They won the important fight, and without Castle in the Senate, the GOP brand will remain pure and principled and therefore well positioned for the eventual true conservative takeover of Congress. Like the man said, better 30 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters.
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Dr K is wrong here, dead wrong. I’d rather have one more senator like Jim Demint, than 10 more RINOs like Lindsey Graham. As for Castle, forty-four years in Congress is enough. He can get a place in Rehoboth and take it easy on the pension we’re providing.
“Electable” is one word I have really come to despise. First, nobody can truly say who is “electable” until the election. Otherwise, it’s just a guessing game. But more and more, “electable” has come to mean “liberal” and “unprincipled” and is most often used by people who are willing to chuck out all of their principles just so they can say their guy won. Meanwhile, their guy violates every principle these people used to have. Bah. Krauthammer should quit whining.
Krauthammer has this point...Castle is a virtual win. O’Donnell still today...with most folks in Delaware...is a question mark.
Let’s also be honest here. If you picked out the typical average Republican in Texas...and looked for the same charismatics with a Delaware Republican...you’d only find 10,000 of them in the whole state of Delaware. The vast number of conservatives in the state are RINO-types.
The amusing thing to this whole story is that Joe Biden’s son was the end-all expected winner of this race until he dropped out. I suspect anyone with name value...even Lady Gaga...could win the state election in November.
Krauthammer is also an avid gun control advocate, so I’ve never considered him much of a conservative, or any kind of voice for the typical Republican...
Siding with the RINOs, are you Dr. K? We tea partiers aren’t in the mood for that. Get used to it.
IMO, we need change, change of all in office, and talking heads that have kept crap going for all these years
As used in the Salon article: "... Castle recognized that with his impeccable establishment credentials, long service in government, and flexible ideology, he could be vilified by the Tea Partiers just as easily as Murkowski. ..."
I like CK as well. I don’t agree with him on everything but that doesn’t make me think he’s a “stealth liberal.”
Whatever happens, it can be laid directly at the feet of the GOP’s RINO contingent with their “gangsters” and compromisers who helped usher in this band of freedom-thieving thugs.
It’s a bad idea to anger your base and keep poking it in the eye. Bad form to lecture and whine about it when the base starts poking back, too.
RINO-stomp mode. I love that. Screw ‘em and let the stomping resume. I hope the whole lot of them are starting to sweat.
When you put it that way, I'd rather have 30 Marco Rubios *because* Arlen Specters turn into, well, Arlen Specter. What good is a majority of Arlen Specters to anybody??
And Mike Castle *is* left of Arlen Specter. His voting record already proves this. Some people, like Bennett and Murkowski, I could have lived with but not Castle and not McCain. I think the Inside-the-Beltway crowd is mad that the Tea Party pissed in their cheerios too, not just the Democrats. But they really shouldn't be surprised. The whole point of the Tea Party was to say both parties sucked and we could do better. I'm proud of what the Tea Party is doing, even though revolutions can be messy and you don't always get what you want.
Not of a fan of this guy.
Top 6 Reasons why CHRISTINE IS MORE ELECTABLE
1) moderates who want to stop Democrats will vote R.
2) conservatives wont show up big for Castle
3) Liberals don’t like Christine, but like Castle. That’s why the polls are screwy.
Liberals will vote for Coons.
4) Christine can get #s from young, female, Catholic better than Castle
5) Pretty is better than ugly
6) Tea Party won’t support Castle. Remember, the Delaware GOP sued Tea Party Express.
That’s a great point. A RINO is a RINO is a RINO... not. Location is everything. I’m in PA. For congress I’m stuck with Mike Fitzpatrick. Better than Patrick Murphy. A lot better, but, hardly a true conservative.
Right now is the spring of 1942 and we don’t like some of our allies. Fine. First win some battles. Then control the field(s). Then win the war. Then decide what to do with our so called allies.
<< Right now is the spring of 1942 and we dont like some of our allies. Fine. First win some battles. Then control the field(s). Then win the war. Then decide what to do with our so called allies. >>
Um, have we decided yet?
The creaking of the old guard is growing louder. There’s actually a very peaceful revolution going on and some like DeMint and Palin are on the right side of history. Can’t stop it now! Finally the people are saying “enough”.
The Delaware GOP sued the Tea Party.
The Tea Party is not going to vote for Castle, and might very well vote for Coons if Castle is the nominee.
Castle is so very awful to so many conservative Republicans that Castle definitely could not count on their votes in November.
If he had been nice, debated Christine, had an honest debate on issues, experience, resume, etc., maybe Castle would’ve won, maybe Christine would’ve won. But it would be a fair battle of ideas. This was just awful behavior on the part of Castle and the DE GOP, and don’t forget the NRSC was here. Conservatives want Castle gone. But if Castle behaved honorably, and won fairly, they would’ve held their nose and voted for him. But Castle refused to debate, and only slung mud, while Christine simply pointed out how often Castle voted for things conservatives hate, so conservatives who understand how much of an awful awful pain in the ass a RINO is will say, NO MORE RINOS and let the chips fall where they may.
There are a lot of conservatives in DE. You need them to win if you’re a Republican and it’s 2010. Mike Castle will not get them. No way, right now, Castle can win. He destroyed himself with the mudslinging and, especially, suing the tea party.
LOL That is telling.
I'd rather have 51 GOP U. S. Senators with a dozen like McCain, Snowe, Collins, and Castle, than 49 with only ten RINOs. However, I'd rather have 51 with only eleven RINOs than 51 with twelve RINOs. This year, our best choice is O'Donnell, and I'll be working her get-out-the-vote effort for the primary election (I'm not from DE; I travel). Whoever wins, I'll be working to get out the GOP vote in DE in November. While Castle is very far from my idea of the ideal Senator, control of the Senate agenda for the next two years is as Biden would put it "a BFD". We can't afford to stay home when the Senate could flip and we're stuck with a socialist in our White House. In other years, I might vote neither or write in a better name in the general election, but this year we need even RINOs if that's the best we can get. BTW, for those who think Castle is more "electable" and should be our first choice in the primary election, that might be true most years, but this year we have our best chance of getting a real conservative even from DE, and we should go for it.
“Then control the field(s). “
I believe that has been tried ad nauseum. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome. Kudos to Einstein.
Christine will be well known in DE by election day November.
I agree with you. CK is no “stealth liberal” or any liberal at all. He’s a good conservative who gets some things wrong. There are good conservatives here in FR who sometimes get things wrong.
The DE race is one of those times when CK is wrong. He fails to see how really bad Castle is. How really bad the DE GOP is.
Sorry, OMG. My post 22 was meant for NamVet.
Not true... you are stuck with what you don't actively fight for! There is a new wind blowing, the GOP and their load of RINOs is seeing its "business as usual" agenda going down in flames all across the country.
Whether the Conservatives pull off huge wins this cycle or not, the ball is now rolling.... rolling right over the entrenched "elite".
Wiered Al Yankovichs “weasel stomping day” should apply to CK.I’m tired of his inside the beltway,smartest person in the room attitude from his kind.
LOL, love your tag line!
You got that right, although he has been wearing a "conservative robe" for years... given by who? He ticks me off more often that applauding him.
Everyone has to realize that it is not just RINO politicians getting kicked to the curb, a lot of their enablers in the so called "press" are getting thrown down right along side them.
What came first, the Chicken or the Egg?
Deleware politics has been defined by two incumbents, Biden and Castle, since time immemorial. I would submit that these two squishy liberals have won based on their personal appeal and the immense power of incumbency, rather than the appeal of their political philosophy. They have made careers out of being moderate and inoffensive. Certainly, in the case of Biden, it had nothing to do with intelligence or ability.
This does not mean that the electorate of Delaware is squishy and moderate. It just means they have not been sufficiently annoyed with either of these guys to pitch one of them out, until today. Now they will have a real choice.
Frankly, were in Dark Territory here. Nobody knows how Delaware is going to react to a real choice. IMHO, this is the year to find out.
Another point... Given the apparent Delaware pattern of re-electing incumbents, the age of the nominee becomes important. If Castle wins the job, you will have a useless, squishy RINO for six, maybe twelve, years, and Castle will retire with a bigger pension. If O’Donnell wins, we get a solid, reliable Conservative for a generation or more. This is worth taking the risk.
I hope she will and I am from New Jersey where we have two sorry excuses for U.S. Senators. But there is no gain calling a Vietnam Vet a TROLL!!! because he believes in a different strategy for winning.
The Vietnam Veterans I know are not John Kerry.
Yeah, that has worked so well in the past, once a conservative is sent there, they are berated and minimized until they "march into line" with the entrenched "elite"... no thanks, a good house cleaning is in order!
ROFL! I hadn’t heard that one.
Yes, he does slip up and show his elitist side once in a while. He may be a “conservative” as far as beltway TV goes, but he is not conservative as I understand that to mean in Texas.
Mike Castle is like a 100 years old and has been part of the PROBLEM THAT WE ARE IN!!
Ok. You got me. I won’t vote in November.
You don’t mind if I keep going to Tea Party Rallies, down to Washington again for the next march/rally, donating money to Allen West (FL), Christine O’Donnell (DE), others in states where I can’t vote, contacting my current [Murphy] and future [Fitzpatrick] congressman to straighten them out? Would that be okay with you? Please say yes.
AMEN! Another favorite would be "viable"
I’ve never gotten the elitist vibe from him but I do think that in this case, he’s exhibiting “pragmatic”, inside-the-beltway thinking that’s gotten us in this mess.
CK thinks it’s a given that ObamaCare and other Democratic legislation are here to stay. If we keep electing Republicans in the Castle mold, like he’s encouraging, that’s true.
I just don’t see the long-term benefits of keeping Republicans in our ranks who will work to undermine our freedom. Get rid of who we can today and keep the rest scared. This isn’t a game.
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I know we live in an everybody-gets-a-trophy world... but there are no prizes for second running up in politics. It hasn’t worked in the past because the majority of Republicans that were elected in the past were not conservatives. Plain and simple. If they are this time... it’ll be different. Personally I’m optimistic. But, not crazy.
And, I’m old. I don’t feel like waiting 2 more, 3 more, N more election cycles before ANY other party than the Democrats control the congress.
It is bigger than that RM....
Glenn Beck told us to find our voice, obviously we did and they can't stand it
The Beltway-Establishment-Blue Blood-RulingClass-Parlimentarians can't handle the concept that we have a voice, and are willing to change the direction of the country without their guidance. The hubris of them to think they are the pass thru, ditto that the RNC.
Look at them all caterwauling its being against the Tea Parties all the way to now trying to sway the outcome to stay with the us vs. them RINOs...
In fact it didn't start with the Tea Parties, it started with Joe the Plumber. An average working guy that got these people and could talk in simple terms, He didn't need a PHD to see through Obama's Marxism and with more degrees than a thermometer, half these pogues didn't see it or voted for him! ( paging Peggy what's her face...)
I got to tell you I am sick of them all and a big pile of the talk show host as well.
The problem is we have to work our butts off to keep what we have and roll back what has been done in the last 20 months and unfortunately, we still have Obama and a bunch of RINO's to deal with. This will take years.
If we didn't have responsibilities, Going Galt in Alaska off the Grid would be the alternative. Maybe the responsibilities will get many off their duff to do the hard work of trying to implement change back to a Constitutionally Limited Republic.
Geez, AP can be a snarky douche (a bit like a liberal). As for Krauthammer, this is no surprise. He may be “smart”, but he’s firmly entrenched in the Beltway Ruling Class establishment.
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Let me say.
Happy 1st year aniversary.
There are a lot of anti O’Donnell trolls out. A lot of people have signed up.
You signed up 9/14/09, which is one year ago today.
Just a bit sick of fighting with all the new people talking about electability.
You betcha. And Charles gets really bent out of shape when the conservatives dare to challenge the RINOs. He hates Sarah and all like her.
Re-stacking the congress with more "moderates" and RINOs will not get you what you are looking for, instead the country will continue to die a very slow and painful death... if need be, I would rather it collapse fast and hard so we can try a Constitutional "reset".
“When you put it that way, I’d rather have 30 Marco Rubios *because* Arlen Specters turn into, well, Arlen Specter. What good is a majority of Arlen Specters to anybody??”
well, if you’re a Scottish law loving, double party switching, ancient, white knuckling dinosaur fan, it’s pretty appetizing.