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Breaking Fox News: Poverty Rate JUMPS to 14.3 Percent
Fox News ^ | 16 Sep 10

Posted on 09/16/2010 7:34:28 AM PDT by xzins

Just heard the news alert on Fox.

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To: rhombus
Trickle up Poverty. is Mike Savage's new book title......
41 posted on 09/16/2010 8:17:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: cripplecreek

Great Cartoon!


42 posted on 09/16/2010 8:17:33 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
Right. And I understand all that. I was just having a wack at the usual Liberal pity party that accompanies these statistics

In my younger years, I worked in a factory where layoffs were built into the situation.

We made very good money and I was able to save for school and to buy a car (cash) in the time I was there.

The people I worked with didn't bother about continuing their education or any kind of saving. They all bought new cars, boats, campers, took annual (sometimes more frequent) vacations and traveled a great deal. There was NOTHING under the sun they did not buy for themselves... always the newest latest and best.

I paid a guy for gas to ride to work with him and worked all the overtime I could get. When the layoff came, I was ready. I had a paid-off car, and could afford to go back to school.

I don't understand all the crying they do when they had ample pay and could save or invest in themselves.

43 posted on 09/16/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: xzins

Put more people on welfare and unemployment until the system collapses.

That is what Obama and his socialist masters are DELIBERATELY trying to do.

It is my fondest wish and dream to see that bastard behind prison bars.


44 posted on 09/16/2010 8:21:40 AM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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To: SMARTY

It probably includes illegal aliens, too. But, not to worry. Harry Reid has the Dream Act appended to the Defense appropriations bill, and John McCain is threatening a filibuster (to last at least 1 hour of on camera time for McVain). These 2 partners in crime have it all planned out.


45 posted on 09/16/2010 8:22:42 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15.)
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To: rhombus

Do welfare recipients get included in this number?

We have waaaay over 14.3 % of the population collecting welfare in some form or another.


46 posted on 09/16/2010 8:23:51 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: LoneStarGI

Agreed, I too have traveled and have seen real poverty.

Our poor are filthy rich compared to many of the Bedouins and Mexican’s I’ve seen.


47 posted on 09/16/2010 8:24:36 AM PDT by TSgt (And the war came.)
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To: Danae

He still needs to show us his birth certifciate. That is perhaps the most annoying thing of all.


48 posted on 09/16/2010 8:25:43 AM PDT by ministry of silly full stop (obama: grand poohbah of the ministry of silly)
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To: xzins
PLEASE HELP DEM New Logo needs a fix, also blue circles instead of red TAXPAYER NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO THIS: DEMOCRATS Some Things Never Change
49 posted on 09/16/2010 8:26:28 AM PDT by steve0 (My plan B: christianexodus.org/)
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To: Rebelbase; All

Q: How much money has been spent on welfare programs since their inception?

A: “9 Trillion or about $225,000 per person currently living in American poverty.

The above answer is accurate only if you define “welfare” as including all means-tested programs. This would include Medicaid, food stamps, student lunch programs, scholarship aid to college students, etc. This also includes Medicaid spending for the elderly in nursing homes or subsidized Medicare coverage, and for the disabled. Only about 16% of all Medicaid spending is for health care to poor, non-disabled families, so the answer varies depending on how you define “welfare”. (Center for Budget and Policy Priorities) And, of course, the answer to this question changes with each passing day.

Using information from 2001 (the most recent numbers I could find) which was provided by the conservative Heritage Foundation, I was able to do the following math and find out how much we spent on welfare in that year as a percent of the budget:

-Combined spending on cash, food, and housing assistance (which I think is what most people consider to be “welfare”) was $167 billion in 2001. 72% of this amount was from federal funding; the rest was from states/locals. Doing the math then, about $120 billion came the federal government.

-The 2001 Federal budget was about $1.835 trillion. These programs were therefore about 6.5% of federal spending in 2001. Numbers for states vary, but from what I’ve seen, their spending on these kinds of cash assistance programs was betwen 1% and 4% of the state’s annual budget.

-Note: these numbers reflect what we are spending on welfare programs that including the cost of welfare office operations and their employees’ compensation. This is not the amount that is sent out in checks to poor households.

In researching the topic, this amount (between 5-10% of the overall federal budget and 1-5% of state budgets) seems to be a pretty consistent level of spending on these programs from year to year.”

“$9 Trillion Didn’t End Poverty — What to Do?”
by Jenifer Zeigler

Jenifer Zeigler is a welfare policy analyst at the Cato Institute.
Added to cato.org on September 3, 2004

This article appeared on Foxnews.com on September 1, 2004.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=2807


However, please note this:

“Obama Will Spend More on Welfare in the Next Year Than Bush Spent on Entire Iraq War, Study Reveals
As a candidate for president, Barack Obama decried the financial toll that the Iraq war was taking on the economy, but Obama’s proposed spending on welfare through 2010 will eclipse Bush’s war spending by more than $260 billion.”
Tuesday, September 22, 2009
By Fred Lucas

“President Obama’s welfare spending will reach $888 billion in a single fiscal year—2010—more than the Bush administration spent on war in Iraq from the first “shock and awe” attack in 2003 until Bush left office in January.

Obama’s spending proposals call for the largest increases in welfare benefits in U.S. history, according to a report by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. This will lead to a spending total of $10.3 trillion over the next decade on various welfare programs. These include cash payments, food, housing, Medicaid and various social services for low-income Americans and those at 200 percent of the poverty level, or $44,000 for a family of four. Among that total, $7.5 trillion will be federal money and $2.8 trillion will be federally mandated state expenditures.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/54400


“2010 Welfare Budget Eclipses Amount Spent On Entire Iraq War”
September 23rd, 2009 Posted By Erik Wong.

“Welfare spending has taken its toll on the federal debt. Since the beginning of the “war on poverty,” $15.9 trillion has been spent on welfare programs. The total cost of every war in American history, starting with the American Revolution, is $6.4 trillion when adjusted for inflation.

Welfare has been the fastest growing part of the federal government’s spending, increasing by 292 percent from 1989 to 2008. That’s compared to Social Security and Medicare, which grew 213 percent, the study says.

Adjusted for inflation, welfare is 5 percent of the gross domestic product today. It was only 1.2 percent of GDP in 1965, the report says. Also, over the next decade, $1.5 trillion in welfare benefits will be paid to low-skilled immigrants.

Still, high levels of poverty are reflected by the U.S. Census Bureau because the bureau counts only 4 percent of the total welfare spending as income when it calculates poverty. Thus, most discussions on poverty begin on the virtual premise that welfare does not exist, the study says.

“None of the $800 billion being spent is counted as income, so the Census comes back and they say, ‘Oh my goodness, we have 40 million poor people. We need to spend more money,’” Rector explained. “That is a game the taxpayer can never win.”

Changing how the money is spent could go a long way in achieving better results, the study says.

“Annual means tested welfare spending is more than sufficient to eliminate poverty in the United States,” the study reports. “If welfare spending were converted into case benefits, the sum would be nearly four times the amount needed to raise the income of all poor families above the official poverty line.”

http://patdollard.com/2009/09/2010-welfare-budget-eclipses-amount-spent-on-entire-iraq-war/


And the costs for 2009-2010 welfare have actually been.....

??

Of course, we know that the federal budget year ends on 30 September.

If someone has figures, please post them.


50 posted on 09/16/2010 8:27:06 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: OrioleFan

“DREAM”??? Well, I guess that’s what you do when you don’t know how to WORK!!!


51 posted on 09/16/2010 8:27:47 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: xzins

Has anyone noticed an increase in crime also? We listen to the scanner every night, usually we just catch traffic stops, fires, non-emergency transports and an occasional serious complaint.

But the last 6 months or so there has been a major uptick in break-ins around here. Dispatch is talking constantly!


52 posted on 09/16/2010 8:28:09 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Please help us put Herman over 30K fans - www.facebook.com/THEHermanCain)
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To: xzins

Well two things, first it isn’t suprising considering the economy. Secondly, this is due to the way the Dems redid how we calculate it. It is now based on a certain % of the population. It can never go down as a percent, just an absolute number.


53 posted on 09/16/2010 8:29:32 AM PDT by Dem Guard (Obama's 57 States = The Organization of The Islamic Conference (OIC).)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

54 posted on 09/16/2010 8:29:41 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: xzins

Correct, and I think the debate should be framed that way, that people are doing worse financially and economically under Barry in terms of the US system. I just get very cynical when the press throw out the word ‘poverty’ so casually to describe our current situation as though it’s comparable to the poverty in many 3rd world countries.


55 posted on 09/16/2010 8:30:44 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: xzins

Poverty rates have been manipulated for political purposes since the 60’s. The primary method is through an ever-changing series of definitions of what poverty actually is. Absent any uniformity of definition, comparisons are meaningless. So if they’re being reported as “up”, it’ll be used as justification for something on the administration’s agenda. Wait for the other shoe to drop.


56 posted on 09/16/2010 8:31:07 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: xzins

Minorities (dem voters) hit hardest?


57 posted on 09/16/2010 8:33:58 AM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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To: Pete

Ah... that explains it... I’ll bet the 2010 VCR numbers have gone down.


58 posted on 09/16/2010 8:35:00 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Ev Reeman

Did you know the Pres. flew BO, the dog, in on a separate smaller jet to Maine for their vacation????.............................. Its a Democrat thing. 99% of you probably are unaware of an incident in WW II where a relative of Roosevelt and her dog were transported in an Army AF cargo plane meant for wounded GI’s. The GI’s had to wait for another flight. I remember her name, it isn’t worthy of mention.


59 posted on 09/16/2010 9:03:53 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (The candidate they smear the most is the one they fear the most.)
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To: ministry of silly full stop

I just want that bastard in handcuffs. He has ZERO constitutional right to be where he is. He is nothing other than a criminal.


60 posted on 09/16/2010 9:11:45 AM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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