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Tearful Fla. dad 'sorry' for storming school bus
Yahoo News ^ | September 21, 2010 | ANTONIO GONZALEZ

Posted on 09/21/2010 10:19:26 AM PDT by Gennie

LAKE MARY, Fla. – A Florida father wept as he apologized at a news conference for storming onto a school bus and threatening children onboard because his 13-year-old disabled daughter had been bullied. James Willie Jones' voice cracked during the appearance Tuesday. He said he himself was acting as a bully and no parent should copy his behavior. He says his daughter suffers from cerebral palsy and he "could not stand by and helplessly watch her suffer." Standing by his wife, who also wept, Jones apologized for how he handled the situation. Jones was charged last week with disorderly conduct and disturbing a school function for the Sept. 3 incident. He posted $2,000 bail and was ordered to stay away from the driver and county school buses.

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1 posted on 09/21/2010 10:19:31 AM PDT by Gennie
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To: Gennie

He would not have to apologize to me, even if he had booted the smartass kids in the ass


2 posted on 09/21/2010 10:20:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (PALADINO FOR GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK)
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To: Gennie

The only issue here is ... will any of this keep the young lady from being harassed on the bus?

That is the only ‘good’ that can come of this.


3 posted on 09/21/2010 10:23:58 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Mr. K

I’m with you, Mr. K.


4 posted on 09/21/2010 10:24:01 AM PDT by rlmorel (Puritianism is the fear someone is having fun. Liberalism is the fear someone is being a capitalist.)
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To: Gennie
This man didn't have a damn thing to apologize for!

"I wont be wronged..I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." John Bernard Brooks (speaking) From the Movie 'The Shootist'
5 posted on 09/21/2010 10:24:29 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Gennie

Had it been my kid doing the bullying not only would he not have to apologize to me, I would apologize to him and also explain that my kid would be sitting in pain for a week after I got done with his behind.

Some things you just have to turn a blind eye to within reason, a father defending a handicapped daughter he loves from bullies is one of them IMHO.


6 posted on 09/21/2010 10:24:46 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Mr. K
He said he himself was acting as a bully and no parent should copy his behavior.

Bullies don't do what they do in defense of the helpless and innocent.

7 posted on 09/21/2010 10:25:20 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Mr. K

Ditto.

MY child would be at their front door, knocking politely, to APOLOGIZE for bullying a defenseless youngster.


8 posted on 09/21/2010 10:25:37 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Gennie
This fellow had better sell out and move his family.

His daughter will know no peace now.

9 posted on 09/21/2010 10:26:09 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Gennie

Folks these days apologize for doing the right thing, and take pride in doing the wrong thing.


10 posted on 09/21/2010 10:26:48 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Gennie

FWIW, read the comments at the article.

Very soundly defending the dad.


11 posted on 09/21/2010 10:27:48 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Mr. K

he’s a hero to me.....besides,kiks nowadays are not the “kids” of yesterday.....smart mouthed, foul, arrogant...


12 posted on 09/21/2010 10:27:52 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Gennie

The bus driver stood by and did nothing. I think the guy did right, he defended her and let the bullies have a little taste of fear.

Screw with a man’s daughter, you just might pay a price. It leads to a better society. This needs to happen more,, like when a teacher makes young girls lick condoms in sex ed class, etc.


13 posted on 09/21/2010 10:27:58 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Gennie

At least he’s remorseful. However, I still hope the judge throws the book at him. Adults shouldn’t be able to get away threatening to kill children, period, end of story.


14 posted on 09/21/2010 10:28:22 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Gennie
I took on lot of heat on this thread
 
Dad threatens to kill daughter's bullies on bus (Stand with the Father)
 
for disagreeing with what the dad did.
 
Glad to see he's sorry.


15 posted on 09/21/2010 10:28:31 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Gennie

It’s a sad state of affairs when a father can’t threaten to whoop a bully’s @ss!


16 posted on 09/21/2010 10:28:49 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Gennie

>> [the father] was ordered to stay away from the driver and county school buses.

My inclination is to defend the father, and excoriate the school and bus system for neglect.


17 posted on 09/21/2010 10:29:08 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gennie

He would not ever have to apologize to me. If my kid were on that bus and one of his daughters tormentors that child would know the wrath of God!


18 posted on 09/21/2010 10:29:16 AM PDT by pgkdan (Protect and Defend America! End the practice of islam on our shores before it's too late!)
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To: Gennie
From another article:

Jones told deputies the boys had placed an open condom on his daughter's head, smacked her on the back of the head, twisted her ear and shouted rude comments at her, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office report shows."

Jones previously complained to School Administrators who chose to do nothing about the problem.

I can understand how the Dad snapped.

19 posted on 09/21/2010 10:29:41 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Gennie
"...Jones apologized for how he handled the situation."

I believe that the school authorities should be forced to apologize for "failing to handle" the situation. I sympathize with this man and abhor the position that he was placed in. If I had a handicapped child (or any child for that matter) who was being bullied, I would probably have behaved very much as he did. Now that he has been brow-beaten into confessing the sin of attempting to defend his child, the school authorities are off the hook and they are now in a position of being able to point to him as the guilty party.

This whole thing stinks as far as I'm concerned.

20 posted on 09/21/2010 10:30:37 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: Gennie

I’d be damned if I’d apologize.

Did you hear those kids laughing? Basically they were just mocking the father for yelling at them!


21 posted on 09/21/2010 10:30:40 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Gennie

For good or bad, I might very well have done the same. A lot of kids these days — probably most of them — need to be scared into next week in order to get through to them that life isn’t just about THEM.


22 posted on 09/21/2010 10:32:02 AM PDT by alancarp (Please don't tell Obama what comes after "trillion")
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To: Mr. K

It would be interesting if he is just apologizing because he calmed down, and realized that setting a precedent of entering a school bus without permission could turn out bad.

This whole incident is one tricky moral and legal tightrope.


23 posted on 09/21/2010 10:32:07 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Bullies don’t do what they do in defense of the helpless and innocent.”

BINGO.


24 posted on 09/21/2010 10:32:12 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

>> I took on lot of heat on this thread

As you should have. It’s obvious the father had no intention of hurting anyone.


25 posted on 09/21/2010 10:33:08 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gennie

The police and school system made too much of this. It is not a far stretch to think that after this man pays his $2000 fine, the school board will be paying $200,000 for violations of his daughter’s civil rights. It appears she is a member of several protected classes including female, African American and disabled. He appears humble, though, and contrite, and perhaps doesn’t believe in suing for every slight. Nevertheless, police and prosecutors should tread very lightly. Very few people will side against this man, and anyway his violations of law have nothing to do with the rights of his daughter (title 9, ada, etc).


26 posted on 09/21/2010 10:33:10 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Gennie

Waiting for the whole story. Wonder if he had discussed the problem with the school’s principal, with the bus driver? Often, these days, you can do all the right things and get no results!

I’m afraid if I were in his shoes, I might have done something similar if official channels hadn’t worked. Then, there is always, drive your daughter to school and pick her up while bullies are being dealt with properly, or keep her home.

There are new rules in place to protect people, especially children from being bullied. Might as well use all the P.C. stuff when you can!


27 posted on 09/21/2010 10:35:21 AM PDT by Frangibled (Paranoia - Surest sign of sanity between 2008 and 2012)
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To: Melas

Yes, yes,,, he should have contacted the authorities. The same ones who expressly forbid drivers from stopping such bullying. Silly, he did exactly right. Since when can’t a father threaten a boy who is hitting his handicapped daughter.

He might have saved the little ba$tards life by teaching him to think twice. Not everyone is as nice as her dad.

Kids need a little healthy fear of adults. And telling them what will happen if he hits your daughter,,, thats just the “circle of life”, like in Lion King.


28 posted on 09/21/2010 10:35:26 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Gennie

Tough one....my daughter has CP and MR, and bullies are a way of life for her. If I threatened every kid or stranger who bullied my daughter, or made fun of her, etc, I’d get no work done. I wish I had defended her more.

Another comment.....the article says that the dad explained his daughter suffers from CP. My daughter hates that term....she tells people she doesn’t suffer from it, she lives with it.

Incidentally, the worst case of bullying I ever had to deal with came from two adults. Kids can be cruel, but adults can be vicious.


29 posted on 09/21/2010 10:35:29 AM PDT by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yes, he took it too far, threatening to kill them.

However, the principle of standing up for your daughter is right.

No one else would, apparently.


30 posted on 09/21/2010 10:35:57 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Gennie

Imagine if he had been white...


31 posted on 09/21/2010 10:36:54 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Gennie

I saw the video of the bus “storming”, He has nothing to apologize for. The school and bus driver should apologize to him..................


32 posted on 09/21/2010 10:38:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: cherry

Actually I disagree. Maybe they weren’t as foul-mouthed, but kids (and I mean KIDS - not teens) in my day were mean and cruel. Take it from one who was “bullied”. (Frankly, high school was much better for me than younger.)


33 posted on 09/21/2010 10:38:28 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Gennie

it being Seminole Co schools explains an awful lot about why no preventive measures were taken despite numerous pleas for them to stop the bullies before he took matters into his own hands...


34 posted on 09/21/2010 10:39:04 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Gennie

dad went overboard, but know what, he does not need to apologize. I know our school’s “zero tolerance” is total and PURE BS. When my daughter was in 6th grade she was getting teased by a bully. We called the school, no response from them. We sent emails and requested a meeting. Nothing happened. My daughter was being bullied by this girl daily... finally we called the cops and all of the sudden they were calling us, apologizing and asking when we could meet. “Too late... we filed a report and are pressing charges...”

The look on their face must have been priceless because the silence over the phone sure was.

That is YOUR child, not the government’s and you have to do what you have to do to protect them.


35 posted on 09/21/2010 10:40:25 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: Gennie

[He said he himself was acting as a bully and no parent should copy his behavior]

No he wasn’t. Defending your handicapped daughter from heartless tormenters is not bullying!


36 posted on 09/21/2010 10:40:36 AM PDT by KansasGirl (No, I do not proofread.)
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To: Gennie

I always told my sons....

Never start a fight
Defend yourself and finish the fight
Always come to the aid of the weaker....

This Dad was coming to the aid of the weaker, his daughter. IMO he is being a good man and a good father.


37 posted on 09/21/2010 10:41:07 AM PDT by Kimmers (Tell a lie often enough it becomes political........)
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To: Melas

>>Adults shouldn’t be able to get away threatening to kill children, period, end of story.<<

Bull. It was a threat, nothing else.
The daughter was genuinely harassed. The father tried everything he could do through the system, they nothing.

If my kid was on that bus, I would have been there the next day to shake the father’s hand. Cause everyone on that bus knows who was doing it.

If my kid had been harassing her, he/she would have had a new crack in the a$$. THEN, would have apologized to the father and been the girl’s servant for a week.

He opened up a bit of “Fear of the Father” that I grew up with and perhaps the little perps never get to experience.


38 posted on 09/21/2010 10:41:13 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I am sorry that he is sorry! Another win for bullies and PC crowd!
39 posted on 09/21/2010 10:41:26 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: DesertRhino
He might have saved the little ba$tards life by teaching him to think twice. Not everyone is as nice as her dad.

More likely he made it worse. Now he's the laughingstock crying on camera because he put his own ass in a sling. You honestly don't believe that the kids haven't picked up on the fact that this guy accomplished nothing other than being arrested? She's likely greeted by chants of "Daddy's out on bail" now.

40 posted on 09/21/2010 10:42:07 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Gene Eric
My inclination is to defend the father, and excoriate the school and bus system for neglect.

Do the second half, but the father should face charges. Let the Justice System meter out mercy, along with the public support for mercy. If we support him entering the bus, then the next time some father might shoot a child. I think this is why the father in this story has come out with an 'apology'. He accepts that he was 'in the wrong' legally.

But... if we don't follow up with public demand for responsibility of the bus DRIVER and the BUS MGMT and the SCHOOL for the safety of ALL the passengers, then we should be the one's apologizing, because the same stuff will continue to happen.

Maybe we need to have a bunch of LAWSUITS by parents of harmed children against the BUS companies. I bet they would solve the problem rather quickly.

41 posted on 09/21/2010 10:43:02 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Badabing Badablonde

“If I threatened every kid or stranger who bullied my daughter, or made fun of her, etc, I’d get no work done”

This little girl had a condom pulled over her head, was hit and pinched. This would seem to be one of the cases that needs to run right into dad’s brick wall,,,,


42 posted on 09/21/2010 10:43:51 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“Bullies don’t do what they do in defense of the helpless and innocent.”

BINGO.

These kids when they grow-up remind me of something Louis L’Amor wrote: “Why are the last people to grant mercy the first to ask for it?”


43 posted on 09/21/2010 10:44:32 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Mr. K
He would not have to apologize to me, even if he had booted the smartass kids in the ass

Had I been one of the smartass kids my dad would have thanked him then booted me again......

44 posted on 09/21/2010 10:46:06 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: Mr. K

“He would not have to apologize to me, even if he had booted the smartass kids in the ass”

He is rendered unable to protect his kid and threatened by the government for making the attempt. He is overwhelmed.

The pressures of left wing statism are becoming explosive.


45 posted on 09/21/2010 10:47:34 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Detente with the GOP nomenklatura - trust, but verify.)
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To: Gennie
"He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

-George Orwell, 1984

46 posted on 09/21/2010 10:47:34 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Melas

“threatening to kill children”

Hyperbole.

It’s called hyperbole.

LOTS of people say they’re going to “kill you!” if you say anything about her love letter, about her playing sick; anything. Even when they’re really angry, it’s generally hyperbole for “beat the hell out of you”.


47 posted on 09/21/2010 10:47:38 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Gennie

. . . here’s a black father and husband with a physically challanged daughter who’s being bullied by other students ,,,,, I say I feel the same exact way he feels ans I was personally proud of him for what he did ,,, The States Attorney and his laywer probably put him up to the apology .


48 posted on 09/21/2010 10:47:45 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (-:{ GLENN BECK is 0bama's TRANSPARENCY CZAR }:-)
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To: Responsibility2nd

For what it’s worth, you were absolutely right on calling this guy on his criminal behavior. No doubt I’ll take heat for saying that dad deserves at the very least an extended probation period where he has to check in frequently as a reminder not to screw up like this again.


49 posted on 09/21/2010 10:48:15 AM PDT by Melas
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Luckily, the police didn’t see it that way. If my kid were on that bus, I’d be making phone calls demanding that he be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. When guys like this aren’t taught a harsh lesson, they just act out more. Without punishment, he might actually hit a kid next time.


50 posted on 09/21/2010 10:51:19 AM PDT by Melas
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