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Blue States See Red Over Redistricting [People are moving to Red States.]
American Spectator ^ | 10/1/2010 | Daniel J. Flynn

Posted on 10/01/2010 6:59:45 PM PDT by SeattleBruce

...What reapportionment says about the future is perhaps less interesting than what it says about the present.

Red states are gaining population relative to blue states because of the divergence in policy. Jobs, and thus people, flock to red states because they are generally easier places to do business. If the states are, as Justice Brandeis posited, laboratories of democracy, then places such as New York, which will have lost sixteen electoral votes since 1960, and Massachusetts, which will have gone from fourteen to nine seats in those five decades, must be considered failed experiments....

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KEYWORDS: bluestates; census; economy; elections; redistricting; redstates
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Interesting analysis of what's going on with the blue state to red state migration.
1 posted on 10/01/2010 6:59:50 PM PDT by SeattleBruce
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To: SeattleBruce

Oh great. They bring their liberalism with them.


2 posted on 10/01/2010 7:01:39 PM PDT by dforest
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To: SeattleBruce

Unfortunately, Blue state liberal retards bring their voting habits with them. STAY AWAY from the SOUTH. You are not welcome!


3 posted on 10/01/2010 7:02:28 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeattleBruce
Two 'rat incumbents in Ohio will bite the dust for 2012. Couldn't happen to nicer varmints.
4 posted on 10/01/2010 7:04:26 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: indylindy
Oh great. They bring their liberalism with them.

Yes, they do.

I view things like taxes-to-cities a form of tribute to keep them in their hellholes and not come out to infect the America that remains uncontaminated.

5 posted on 10/01/2010 7:05:05 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: SeattleBruce

Could it be ... gasp ... a tax thing?


6 posted on 10/01/2010 7:05:08 PM PDT by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: SeattleBruce
Interesting analysis of what's going on with the blue state to red state migration.

I hate the color purple.

Stay home and stay blue you liberals!

7 posted on 10/01/2010 7:05:18 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: central_va

In the west we call that Californication, when Californians visit your state and like it so much they decide to move there.


8 posted on 10/01/2010 7:06:10 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: central_va; indylindy

Well, another take on it is that we have a chance to win people over to Conservatism. Conservatism and Freedom do work.

In any case, this will give red states, right to work states and states with no income tax more power. That’s a good thing.


9 posted on 10/01/2010 7:06:51 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 32 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: USNBandit
In the west we call that Californication, when Californians visit your state and like it so much they decide to move there

Just send the bimbo blondes, maybe they are trainable.

10 posted on 10/01/2010 7:09:24 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeattleBruce

What this ultimately means is that while the House becomes more Republican, the Senate becomes more entrenched Democrat because only the House changes with the shifting populace. The shrinking blue states just become a deeper blue.


11 posted on 10/01/2010 7:15:40 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: indylindy

Some do, but generally it is the fed up conservatives that lead the exodus.


12 posted on 10/01/2010 7:17:29 PM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: posterchild

I sure hope so.


13 posted on 10/01/2010 7:19:15 PM PDT by dforest
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks SeattleBruce.
they are generally easier places to do business

14 posted on 10/01/2010 7:20:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: SeattleBruce

yeah but they turn states like Virginia and NC purple


15 posted on 10/01/2010 7:20:49 PM PDT by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: SeattleBruce
Well, another take on it is that we have a chance to win people over to Conservatism. Conservatism and Freedom do work.

Most of these liberals are too stupid to ever learn a lesson of any type.

I see them rolling down I-95 in rented vans and such, loaded to the hilt with people and junk as they escape the hellholes they have created by their laziness and greed and, like locusts, move to the southern states.

Since birth they have been taught they are owed everything and they will not change but they will overwhelm the conservative voters in their new southern homes and start voting in the "gimmee" politics and laws they think they deserve.

16 posted on 10/01/2010 7:37:13 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: central_va

I most certainly agree with that, stay away from the south. The lib bastards are surrounding me. I was out working one day and tired of the toil went cross country to my favorite creek swimming hole. I had not been that way in some time and lo and behold I came across a house that was not supposed to be there.

The new owner was at first taken aback by my Marcel Ledbetter attire of coveralls, no shirt and boots and even more surprised when he found I spoke rather good English. He is a stock broker he told me, come to the country to find peace. I allowed as to how we wanted to keep it that way, quiet. Upon further conversation he asked where to dine locally and I advised that Clara’s Kitchen had good specials and a mean jalapeno and jack hamburger but that she was kinda irregular in her hours. He said he hoped we would get some “better” restaurants here when more people moved in. I told him if he wanted “better” restaurants and more people he should go back where he came from while he still could on his own terms. I did not tarry for further repartee.


17 posted on 10/01/2010 7:38:24 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: Sequoyah101

Bookmark


18 posted on 10/01/2010 7:56:05 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: Sequoyah101
Clara’s Kitchen had good specials and a mean jalapeno and jack hamburger but that she was kinda irregular in her hours.

We had a little place like that back in the mountains of East Tennessee that served up a bacon cheeseburger to die for...damn; I miss that place. :-(

19 posted on 10/01/2010 8:01:11 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SeattleBruce

“New York, which will have lost sixteen electoral votes since 1960, and Massachusetts, which will have gone from fourteen to nine seats in those five decades, must be considered failed experiments....”

The biggest mistake George Washington made after defeating the British was not burning NYC to the ground. All the whores in New York City flipped their skirts up to every enemy Redcoat walking past and it hasn’t stopped for more than two centuries. New York is seditionist city.

Any patriots in NYC are rare exceptions to the overwhelming enemy rule.


20 posted on 10/01/2010 8:01:36 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: USNBandit

There is also the worthless Yankee liberal (not a normal northern person - big difference) and there a couple of those 0 lovers next door. A blight on the entire area. There should be some kind of test for people exiting the Rust Belt as to wether they are normal people or worthless liberal Yankees.


21 posted on 10/01/2010 8:04:37 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: misterrob

“yeah but they turn states like Virginia and NC purple”

VA isn’t looking as purple these days. However it’s time for us to evangelize Conservative philosophy like we’ve never done before.

Otherwise we should write off this country - ‘cause those coming up behind us won’t ‘get it’ unless we help ‘em catch a vision.

I’ve heard a lot of younger voters in my blue WA State finally start to lament liberals/socialists.

It is time to take advantage of this to teach some life lessons to previously unreachable folks.


22 posted on 10/01/2010 8:20:05 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 32 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: OldMissileer

“Since birth they have been taught they are owed everything and they will not change but they will overwhelm the conservative voters in their new southern homes and start voting in the “gimmee” politics and laws they think they deserve.”

Only if we allow it. There are certainly people that are unreachable - but I don’t share your extreme pessimism. Whatchya gunna do - move to an island and build a castle with some howitzers? ;)


23 posted on 10/01/2010 8:22:26 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 32 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Sequoyah101

“I did not tarry for further repartee.”

LOL.


24 posted on 10/01/2010 8:24:28 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 32 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: central_va

“Unfortunately, Blue state liberal retards bring their voting habits with them. STAY AWAY from the SOUTH. You are not welcome!”

Couple of good yankee bad yankee jokes I could insert here but I will refrain


25 posted on 10/01/2010 8:25:51 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: SeattleBruce; indylindy; central_va; Gondring; EGPWS; USNBandit; OrangeHoof; posterchild; ...

“Didn’t you get the memo”

True Blue is the color of Patriots.
Let this be the Conservative’s October surprise.
From some of us FReepers comes this directive/suggestion.
We’ve already seen the “logic” of this notion and had mucho discussions on the subject.

Swap the color association that the commieCrats and their LameStreamMedia suckered everyone into accepting some years ago.

Red = commies, every one knows that.
Blue = true blue American patriots, every one knows that.

Just start using the switcheroo, no explanation but do include the punchline “Didn’t you get the memo ?!
It is our right to do to the marxists what they have been doing to us for these many years,
Revenge is sweet when it is “clean and neat”.


26 posted on 10/01/2010 8:31:51 PM PDT by SonsOfCollins_Wallace ("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
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To: SonsOfCollins_Wallace

Wrong, let the Yankees have the color blue. They own it. No, better just switch the Red to Grey. More appropriate.


27 posted on 10/01/2010 8:34:32 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Now that is a notion akin to my “heritage” but the matter is a marxistMedia agit prop “thang” so the Blue bullies have a position that is useful for us “patriots” to foster, now.
We can deal with the “Blue vs Grey” situation, later.
We have so many common enemies that it makes sense to deal with the matter at hand.


28 posted on 10/01/2010 9:19:55 PM PDT by SonsOfCollins_Wallace ("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
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To: SeattleBruce

The problem with these carpetbagging Yankee assholes is they flee the states their crap policies have destroyed, and then bring the same crap with them here.

I’m sorry ... did that sound harsh?


29 posted on 10/01/2010 9:50:03 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: central_va

Hey, CA was Reagan country 25 years ago, but the same thing happened there. East coast libs moved in and ruined the politics. Now they’re spreading out from CA to ruin other states.


30 posted on 10/01/2010 9:59:11 PM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: spodefly

“I’m sorry ... did that sound harsh?”

I just think we have an opportunity to convert a LOT of people to our cause. Have you noticed former liberals like David Horowitz - make great Conservatives?
http://frontpagemag.com/


31 posted on 10/01/2010 10:08:09 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 32 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: spodefly
The problem with these carpetbagging Yankee assholes is they flee the states their crap policies have destroyed, and then bring the same crap with them here. I’m sorry ... did that sound harsh?

Nope, not a bit. I've been saying that for many years. I've watched my part of Texas change from a hard huntin' and fishin' culture to a sickening "blend" of girly-men and sniveling women who can't bait a hook and gasp at the sight of a gun.

In our tiny town (no stop light, only a couple of blinking lights at major intersections and the school zones) the first day of deer season was an excused absence, I'm not kidding. I miss that.

All my Boy Scouts could canoe the river, build and set trotlines and make do with very little. Most of them have served their country, fought in Iraq and Afghanistan, finished college and are out in the world hopefully teaching some kid how to build a trotline and run it.

32 posted on 10/01/2010 10:08:47 PM PDT by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: USNBandit

Hmmm...if your hypothesis is true, CA must be getting more conservative all the time because we’re shipping our liberals out of state.

And yet, that doesn’t seem to be happening. CA is getting more liberal. Maybe the rest of the country is shipping their liberals to us.

That and the third world...


33 posted on 10/01/2010 10:38:24 PM PDT by telebob
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To: indylindy

I agree. That is why Colorado, North Carolina, Virginia and Florida are turning purple at best. Even Texas has a shade of blue which years ago would have been unheard of.


34 posted on 10/02/2010 1:22:40 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: OrangeHoof

Not really. Adding more seats in “Red” states usually means that it’s harder to carve out as many safe Republican seats as you can with fewer House seats. Reapportionment will mostly move Democrat seats from North to South.


35 posted on 10/02/2010 1:29:37 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: OldMissileer

After paying 11% of our gross earnings to the New York State tax collector in 1979, we packed up the kids and moved to Texas. It was not easy leaving the beautiful Finger Lakes region but the Houston Chronicle help wanted section was thicker than the entire Sunday edition of the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle, and NO STATE INCOME TAX !

On the drive down we accumulated a center console full of coins, when we hit Texas we stopped at a small store to make a few purchases. As I slid the coins across the counter the clerk picked one of them up an studied it for a while. And asked .”what the hail is this thang ?”

“Oh, that`a a Canadian quarter dollar” I said.

His reply ..” well hell boy, you in Texas now, got any America money? “

God .. I do love the SOUTH.

AND I VOTE REPUBLICAN.


36 posted on 10/02/2010 3:15:59 AM PDT by Einherjar
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To: central_va

We need RWO fences - one to keep illegal aliens out and another to keep LIBs in the North! There should be a “right to return” for any Southern born and/or raised to move.


37 posted on 10/02/2010 4:01:43 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: EGPWS

Gives new meaning to “Better Red than Dead”.

FWIW I hate the liberal generated change to Red from Blue and the Reds to Blue.

It’ll simply confuse the next generation just like when statists stole the moniker liberal from Classical Liberals.

Controlling language is controlling minds.


38 posted on 10/02/2010 4:53:14 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: SeattleBruce
Chalk up IL too.

It is *expected* that 'we' will lose another EV.
BUT - evryone knows how the commieRATS play with numbers.

I put the quote marks around we as mentally I live on a small Ranch in Montana.
Just 'My Rifle, My Pony and Me'

:-)

39 posted on 10/02/2010 4:58:16 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: SonsOfCollins_Wallace

“True Blue is the color of Patriots.”

Here’s a bit of history to back up what you wrote:

On September 15, 1775, the local Revolutionary Council of Safety in Charleston drafted then Colonel Wiliam Moultrie to prepare a flag to display at Fort Johnson on Sullivan’s Island, outside of Charleston, South Carolina. British war ships prowled outside of the port of Charleston, preparing to attack the city.

Inside the fort, the First and Second South Carolina Regiments marshaled forces to prepare for the bombardment and turn back the British invasion.

According to Moultrie’s memoirs, a flag was needed for the purpose of “signals” to direct American forces during the imminent siege. No national or state flag existed at that time.

Moultrie looked out on his troops and saw they were “clothed in blue” and “wore a silver crescent on the front of their caps.

“I had a large flag made with a crescent on the dexter corner, to be in uniform with the troops,” Moultrie wrote. “This was the first American flag, which was displayed in South Carolina.”


40 posted on 10/02/2010 4:59:09 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: SeattleBruce

They are trying to ruin Florida, my home state.


41 posted on 10/02/2010 5:32:57 AM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (Lord Jesus, direct my mind, possess my heart, transform my life)
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To: misterrob

Charlotte destroyed North Carolina.


42 posted on 10/02/2010 6:19:46 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: hinckley buzzard

The blue states should be colonized with red state conservatives and their ungodly communist governments thrown into the sea of failure and sorrows they cause.


43 posted on 10/02/2010 6:25:38 AM PDT by kindred (Come, Lord Jesus, rule and reign over all thine enemies from Zion, the chosen nation.)
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To: Cousin Eddie

Good news is that the majority of lefties, the college marxists and such, have lower reproductive rates compared to conservatives.


44 posted on 10/02/2010 6:42:23 AM PDT by Round 9
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To: kindred
The blue states should be colonized with red state conservatives and their ungodly communist governments thrown into the sea of failure and sorrows they cause.

Wasn't the Free State Project and attempt to colonize New Hampshire like that?

Unfortunately, sending conservatives to liberal states is like sending dogs to tick infested fields. The dogs aren't likely to win without some serious pest control. In the opposite way, liberals moving to conservative states are like moving those ticks to an unifested kennel. It won't be good for the dogs either.

45 posted on 10/02/2010 7:41:37 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Grblb blabt unt mipt speeb!! Oot piffoo blaboo...)
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To: Condor51

“Just ‘My Rifle, My Pony and Me’”

Nice! Cheers!


46 posted on 10/02/2010 7:58:53 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 32 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: PatriotGirl827
“They are trying to ruin Florida, my home state.”

I would think that FL, with its Snowbirds and tourists from all over is a unique case - although Conservatives have held their own there (barely as it turns out - I guess that may prove your point!) In any case I wish you well. I guess as in all things, the good news is balanced by the bad elements within it. However, stronger red states could result. That should be our focus - building stronger economies in all of the red states and in all places using Conservative principles. And the defending and proselytizing Conservative principles. I use that word because we're up against a propaganda mind-washing machine (that's finally getting weaker.)

47 posted on 10/02/2010 8:03:22 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 32 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Round 9

“Good news is that the majority of lefties, the college marxists and such, have lower reproductive rates compared to conservatives.”

Not to mention gays! Now, that leaves us only with muslims to contend with on that count.


48 posted on 10/02/2010 8:04:35 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 32 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: KarlInOhio

The parasite metaphor is fairly apt. I continue my message about reaching previously untouchable liberals and sealing the Conservative economic (and social) message in their minds.

Strike while the iron is HOT. Some of us may want to hunker down, but I say “CHARGE!”


49 posted on 10/02/2010 8:08:56 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 32 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: SeattleBruce

Hopefully it’s the few ‘reds’ that are fed up living with low-life ‘blues’.


50 posted on 10/02/2010 8:09:25 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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