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Most troops wouldn't oppose serving with gays, survey finds
Washington Post ^ | 10/28/2010 | Ed O' Keefe

Posted on 10/29/2010 10:19:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A majority of active-duty and reserve service members surveyed by the Defense Department would not object to serving and living alongside openly gay troops, according to multiple people familiar with the findings.

The survey's results are expected to be included in a Pentagon report, due to President Obama on Dec. 1, regarding how the military would end enforcement of the "don't ask, don't tell" law that bans openly gay men and lesbians from serving in uniform.

Some troops surveyed - but not a majority - objected strongly to the idea of serving with gays and said they would quit the military if the policy changed, said the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly share details of the survey.

Defense Department officials did not respond to requests for comment.

NBC News first reported Thursday evening on the survey's findings.

In July, the Pentagon sent a survey with dozens of questions to 400,000 active-duty and reserve troops. It asked whether they had ever shared a room or the showers with gay peers, and how they might act if a gay service member lived with a same-sex partner on base.

Military officials did not say how many troops completed the survey, but at least 103,000 had done so just days before it was due, according to the Pentagon. A similar survey was later sent to military spouses.

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KEYWORDS: dontaskdonttell; gay; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; liberaltarians; military; propaganda; trolls
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1 posted on 10/29/2010 10:19:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 10/29/2010 10:20:47 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: SeekAndFind

They probably only polled Women in the Service.


3 posted on 10/29/2010 10:21:33 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: SeekAndFind

This ol’ Vet says the headline is Leftist BullShit.

The only way this could be true is if American men have become so damned feminized they are girlie-men.

No way is this anything but Leftist BullShit IMO.


4 posted on 10/29/2010 10:22:38 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So will they issue a new medal for proudly serving (vital services to lonely soldiers) while gay?


5 posted on 10/29/2010 10:25:11 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: rockinqsranch

Being a vet, I agree. The military has no place for poofters, queens, fairies, and dykes. It’s bad enough that they have women aboard combat ships who are either tramps or dykes.


6 posted on 10/29/2010 10:25:46 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: rockinqsranch

Just wait - all the EO NCOs will have to be gay.

Remember the old days - “How come you’re the EO NCO?” “Because I’m black.” “Ah, is that how EO works?”


7 posted on 10/29/2010 10:26:50 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Islam is the sea in which the terrorist shark swims. It aids & comforts the shark on it's journey.)
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To: darkwing104

Close relative has 20 years in USAF on 1 Dec 2010.
He’s getting out next year on 1 Dec 2011.
Can’t take the BS anymore.


8 posted on 10/29/2010 10:29:01 AM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: rockinqsranch

Thanks for your service...

I just have a question -— Aren’t openly gay men allowed to serve in one of the most effective fighting militaries in the world ? ( I am talking about Israel ). How is this policy affecting their morale and fighting ability?


9 posted on 10/29/2010 10:30:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: rockinqsranch
I dunno. It's one thing when the military has no big fish to fight. But when we're at war and bad guys are trying to kill me, I really don't care what the sexual practices of the persons to the left and right of me are.

The whole debate seems to have an unimportant factor as far as I'm concerned. If the bag o skin next to me can shoot straight and has a good head on their shoulders, I really don't care much about the rest.

10 posted on 10/29/2010 10:30:55 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the biggest load of BS I’ve seen in a long time. This is nothing but homosexual propaganda.


11 posted on 10/29/2010 10:32:24 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Just another white boy slurping a Slurpee while riding along in the back of the bus.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Would you be open to a military REFERENDUM?, which is -— to allow ALL SOLDIERS in the Coast Guard, Airforce, Army, Navy and Marines to vote on this issue?


12 posted on 10/29/2010 10:32:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

These leftards make me sick.

If you think the numbers of veterans committing suicide is bad now (and they are), just wait until you fag out the ranks.


13 posted on 10/29/2010 10:33:14 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: blackdog

Would you be open to a military REFERENDUM?, which is -— to allow ALL SOLDIERS in the Coast Guard, Airforce, Army, Navy and Marines to vote on this issue?

After all, they’re the ones fighting and they’re the ones who should know whether their morale or fighting ability will be affected or not.


14 posted on 10/29/2010 10:33:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: blackdog

Liberalism is a mental disorder, FRiend.

You need a check up from the neck up.


15 posted on 10/29/2010 10:34:56 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: SeekAndFind

faries, you can’t like them or lick them, it would appear.


16 posted on 10/29/2010 10:36:00 AM PDT by brivette
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To: SeekAndFind

faries, you can’t like them or lick them, it would appear.


17 posted on 10/29/2010 10:36:18 AM PDT by brivette
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a good hill to die on.


18 posted on 10/29/2010 10:36:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know about the policy in Israel, nor do I care.

Have a nice day.


19 posted on 10/29/2010 10:38:05 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Answer: This ain’t Israel.


20 posted on 10/29/2010 10:38:39 AM PDT by FrankR (November 2nd is NOT an election - it's a RESTRAINING ORDER.....VOTE!)
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To: central_va

If there is to be a war, let it begin here.


21 posted on 10/29/2010 10:38:49 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: blackdog
The whole debate seems to have an unimportant factor as far as I'm concerned.

First the Pink Hand destroyed the Democrat party. Then the Pink Hand destroyed the Catholic church. It has taken over Hollywood and television. It has destroyed everything it touches. Now the Pink Hand will destroy the US military. No big deal? You're an idiot for saying that.

The queer agenda marches on. I've had enough!

22 posted on 10/29/2010 10:40:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: blackdog

“If the bag o skin next to me can shoot straight and has a good head on their shoulders, I really don’t care much about the rest.”

I changed my mind, and decided to NOT respond to that self written joke.


23 posted on 10/29/2010 10:41:56 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Israel didn’t look so effective in 2006 when they went up against Hezbollah in Lebanon. They were being run from the top down by swishers and cropped hair lesbo butch bull dykes at the time like Zippi Lippi and Olmerde. Affirmation and promotion of homosex is closely akin to PAGANISM my friend and the Lord God of Israel has come down hard on His People every time they have turned from him and begun sacrificing in the high places again. Why would we think it would be any different this time. Homosexualizm has not helped the dutch any nor any other military. It breaks down discipline. Ideally, there would be no sexual behavior in the ranks.


24 posted on 10/29/2010 10:43:08 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah. I can just imagine how this “survey” was taken—if it actually WAS taken.

The General calls the Colonel and the message goes down the various ranks: “This is the answer we want.”

Then the Lieutenant walks into the barracks during inspection and says, “OK, which of you guys want gays in the military, and which of you would prefer to be on KP duty for the next couple of months?”

The answer is predictable.


25 posted on 10/29/2010 10:43:11 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: TaMoDee
Close relative has 20 years in USAF on 1 Dec 2010.

Thank him for his service for me...I am retired Air Force.

What we are seeing is the Administration ginning up a phony survey to justify getting rid of a band against homos from openly serving.

Once we get lulled to turn our Military in to a full time social program we will no longer be able to defend ourselves.


26 posted on 10/29/2010 10:46:27 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: DAC21

They probably only polled Women in the Service

I’m an Army vet. You have no idea how disgusting it is to share the barracks with a bunch of lesbians. They are just as “in your face,” and aggressive as the men.
I wouldn’t count on the women’s vote.
I’m a woman, served ‘74 to ‘77.


27 posted on 10/29/2010 10:48:52 AM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: blackdog

The whole debate seems to have an unimportant factor as far as I’m concerned. If the ‘bag o skin next to me’ can ‘shoot straight’ and has a ‘good head’ on their shoulders, I really don’t care much about the rest.

We hear ya’.


28 posted on 10/29/2010 10:49:42 AM PDT by RetSignman (A funny thing happened on the way to America's destruction, millions of giants awoke)
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To: SeekAndFind

WaPo BS


29 posted on 10/29/2010 10:51:26 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why don’t they repeat the poll and ask:
“Would you mind serving under a gay officer?”
“Would you mind serving under a gay officer who is responsible for your duties, promotions and life?”


30 posted on 10/29/2010 10:52:36 AM PDT by kidd
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To: SeekAndFind

Yep!


31 posted on 10/29/2010 10:56:17 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: SeekAndFind

translation: most service members would not tell a surveyor from the Pentagon (with members of the base or ship Brass looking over their shoulders) that they had a problem with gays.


32 posted on 10/29/2010 10:57:40 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rockinqsranch

I know how sailors used to be and they couldn’t stomach being around someone they even slightly suspected might have considered being gay at one time.


33 posted on 10/29/2010 10:58:58 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Clem Hussein Kadiddlehopper would be a vast improvement.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bullshit!....


34 posted on 10/29/2010 10:59:09 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: blackdog

My husband says if he was in a battle, he would want God on his side. How could that be if he is opposed to the troops? Please, vote No to Homosexuals openly serving. (How we wish that was on the ballot.)


35 posted on 10/29/2010 11:00:29 AM PDT by Tomato lover
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To: SeekAndFind

I found in Viet Nam that they bleed red when shot just like me.


36 posted on 10/29/2010 11:01:30 AM PDT by noname07718 (Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction-Ronald Reagan 1993)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Pentagon has been compromised. This so-called polling is phoney.
37 posted on 10/29/2010 11:03:22 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: central_va

I conclude that homophobia is directly proportionate the the degree of which your life is in danger. If the Chicoms just launched a shoot and forget supersonic missile at my aircraft carrier and the best person at intercepting that missile based on the their demonstrated skills just happens to prefer sex with the same gender, gimme the homo every time!


38 posted on 10/29/2010 11:03:51 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: SeekAndFind

So, in other words, we shouldn’t expect to see more than a 50% reduction in our military personnel?


39 posted on 10/29/2010 11:07:56 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: blackdog

You want the homo?

How about we turn down perfectly good men just to inflate the number of queers in the ranks?

You still want the homo?

Next we lose even better men (and women) as they elect to stay the hell away from the fags that have overtaken the Armed Forces.

And you still want the homo?

You are a Flaming Liberal.


40 posted on 10/29/2010 11:09:58 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Tomato lover

If I’m in battle, sure I want God on my side. But something tells me that when ammo needs to be run to supply the front line, God can’t get it done. God made the person with the courage and selfless will to save his comrades at peril. Something tells me that God would defer his rank for the moment at hand, instead blessing me with the will of a hero, regardless of their gender preference when expressing their sexuality. Which by the way has no place on the battlefield no matter how straight or queer you are.


41 posted on 10/29/2010 11:10:40 AM PDT by blackdog
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I never said that........But say as you will.


42 posted on 10/29/2010 11:11:53 AM PDT by blackdog
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I conclude that homophobia is directly proportionate the the degree of which your life is in danger. If the Chicoms just launched a shoot and forget supersonic missile at my aircraft carrier and the best person at intercepting that missile based on the their demonstrated skills just happens to prefer sex with the same gender, gimme the homo every time!

You might be gay, sorry if I offended you.

How much is WaPo paying you to post on Free Republic?

43 posted on 10/29/2010 11:16:07 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know if this poll bears any relation to reality but I can say this - our military ain’t no place for social experimentation!


44 posted on 10/29/2010 11:17:16 AM PDT by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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Something tells me that God would defer his rank for the moment at hand, instead blessing me with the will of a hero, regardless of their gender preference when expressing their sexuality.

That response sounds like something out of the gay agenda handbook. Your special 'friend' help with that response? You must have been a big disappointment to your parents.

45 posted on 10/29/2010 11:19:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rockrr
I don’t know if this poll bears any relation to reality but I can say this - our military ain’t no place for social experimentation!

Holy Shiite I agree with you. Mark the date.

46 posted on 10/29/2010 11:20:24 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
May your cardiologist be gay, and your mortitian be as straight as an arrow. I think I might know who's company and skillsets you would prefer.

And nothing you can say offends me. It's ok.

47 posted on 10/29/2010 11:23:08 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: SeekAndFind
Aren’t openly gay men allowed to serve in one of the most effective fighting militaries in the world ? ( I am talking about Israel ). How is this policy affecting their morale and fighting ability?

Big difference. In Israel, all males (and maybe females, too, I'm not sure) are REQUIRED to serve. I was told this by our Palestinian tour guide when my husband and I visited Israel in 2007.

48 posted on 10/29/2010 11:25:46 AM PDT by Shethink13
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To: central_va
My parents are dead and my wife and children are doing just fine thank you. I am confident that my father who served in Korea is just fine with my opinions on the subject.

We also gladly accept the idea of inter-racial marriage in society.

That aughta get a few more skinny minds on the hate bus.

49 posted on 10/29/2010 11:28:24 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: central_va

Is there really a gay agenda handbook? Wouldn’t that be self defeating? A secret handshake maybe? Perhaps it’s a way you tie your shoes?


50 posted on 10/29/2010 11:31:21 AM PDT by blackdog
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