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CA: California’s Prop 23 and the “big oil money” campaign – outspent 3 to 1
Watts Up With That? ^ | November 5, 2010 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 11/05/2010 8:57:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; scripter; Darnright; WL-law; bamahead; carolinablonde; SolitaryMan; rdl6989; ..
Thanx Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


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21 posted on 11/06/2010 5:46:12 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...
Thanks Ernest_at_the_Beach. I'm sure the news media will be all over this, the same way it figured it out during the campaign before the election.
Assemblyman Dan Logue, R-Linda, said big money defeated Proposition 23, which would have put the brakes on Assembly Bill 32, the state's clean-air act."We were outspent three-to-one," Logue said in a phone interview Tuesday night. Logue spearheaded the Proposition 23 campaign.

22 posted on 11/06/2010 7:00:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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Hubby was just saying the other day that we made it out of California in the nick of time.


23 posted on 11/06/2010 7:53:43 AM PDT by TheOldLady (The only way to run our country is conservatively.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Have a wonderful day.

My son was educated in the Boy Scouts...acting as Senior Patrol leader for a troop over a 100.

He says the Best training he ever had was with a great project for his Eagle .

We moved a stacked limestone fence to the North West Shawnee Mission High School grounds for the beginning of an ecological area that a teacher was organizing...

I had a Chevy Blazer with a trailer Hitch and made many trips with a truck full of young scouts as we moved all of those slabs ....

Some young boys improved their muscles greatly out of that effort.

24 posted on 11/06/2010 8:42:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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“Much of the “industry” you are thinking about has already left. Unless there is some sort of welfare system for power, this one may chase out the riffraff too, a common liberal tactic employed in wealthy counties such as Marin.

BTW, 20% of the power used in California is for moving and treating water. A lot of that is not going away under any circumstances.”

You are certainly correct about power for water treatment. I suspect that some reasonable level of power generation supports irrigation efforts that the rats would like to curtail.

I am not sure if you are correct about business movement. I do not doubt that much business has already fled but I think there are plenty of energy intensive businesses that will move in the coming 10 years if AB32 is not derailed in some way. In addition, there are many reasonably energy intensive businesses (such as a typical restaurant) that cannot flee. The only choices for these businesses is raise prices or close.

I was not serious about meeting the goals. The goals cannot be met even with wrecking the state’s economy. California is hoping that the EPA will impose similar costs on the rest of the country so that California does not become even less competitive to the rest of the country. I hope that the Republican House can somehow stop the EPA from imposing this terrible cost on the entire country.


25 posted on 11/06/2010 8:45:46 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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You are certainly correct about power for water treatment. I suspect that some reasonable level of power generation supports irrigation efforts that the rats would like to curtail.

They've got the Delta Smelt for that, but yes, they're out to steal dirt.

I am not sure if you are correct about business movement.

As of 2008, it was about 3X agriculture, but considering how much of it is for lighting, I don't think that is such a substantial fraction of TCOS that it would make anybody move. The energy intensive businesses have been relocating for a long time at a steady clip.

BTW, consider how much of our gas bill in this state is for oxidation of emissions. It's a big co-gen opportunity.

The goals cannot be met even with wrecking the state’s economy.

If they can chase people out of the suburbs to buy their inflated Sustainable Tenements they might. At least, that's the plan.

I hope that the Republican House can somehow stop the EPA from imposing this terrible cost on the entire country.

There's so much big money behind the RINOcRats demanding this, I don't see how with Barry-O sitting atop his veto pen.

26 posted on 11/06/2010 9:19:49 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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27 posted on 11/06/2010 7:28:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Appreciate your feed back on my comments. Scouting within the framework of having a solid team of adults to help out is so important. I had similar experience on a number of Eagle Scout projects in my brother's troop (before he became and after the Scout Master).
And I am glad to hear your son made Eagle Scout. The leadership skills he learned within leading such a large troop I can fully appreciate. I for about two years actively lead our Troop and Ship as a ASM and First Mate in the ship, and ran the Drum and Bugle Corps.. It provided a lot of solid training that helped me out over the years in many aspects of life.
Lastly. As you can imagine I had a great time today meeting my Senior Patrol Leader of some fifty four years ago, as well as others I lead and those I respected as good leaders and scouts. And the beer and food was great. Heheh.
Have a great upcoming day. Think I will crash soon.
28 posted on 11/06/2010 9:25:23 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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