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Sen.-elect Paul: GOP must consider military cuts
The Daily Caller/AP ^

Posted on 11/07/2010 2:06:31 PM PST by fabrizio

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican Sen.-elect Rand Paul says GOP lawmakers must be open to cutting military spending as Congress tries to reduce government spending.

The tea party favorite from Kentucky says compromise with Democrats over where to cut spending must include the military as well as social programs. Paul says all government spending must be “on the table.”

Paul tells ABC’s “This Week” that he supports a constitutional amendment calling for a balanced budget.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blameamericafirst; iranianbloodmoney; libertarian; liebertarian; military; paul; paulantimilitary; paulbots; paulestinians; paulistians; paultards; randpaul; ronpaul; wot
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To: Raider Sam
There bound to be a few billion dollars in redundancy there.

Actually, from what I saw of military procurement, it would have to be over a hundred billion, without any sacrifice in quality. IIRC, when I was in military microelectronics, 70% of the cost of the product was paperwork.

We have military -procurement system designed by lawyers.

101 posted on 11/07/2010 4:30:40 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: EternalVigilance

You are 100% right. Daddy was against aid to Israel. The Paul’s are isolationist.


102 posted on 11/07/2010 4:32:03 PM PST by katiedidit1
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To: All

Conservatives will rue the day that Kentucky voted in this Libertarian in Republican disguise - he’s just a duplicate of his Dad. First rattle out of the box and he shows what he really is. I had hoped otherwise judging by his rhetoric in this campaign, he just lied his way into office.

As to all these posts on this thread coming down for Rand’s call to cut defense, all they are are libertarians and Ron Paul fans, they are as phony as the two Paul’s. They hide what they really are.


103 posted on 11/07/2010 4:32:49 PM PST by sasportas
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To: RFEngineer

I work for a defense contractor and the defense budget could and probably should be cut, even though it might eventually result in the termination of my job. IIRC, the U.S. spends more on military expenditures than the rest of the world combined. I would think that someone in this country is competent enough to ensure our security with less money.


104 posted on 11/07/2010 4:32:51 PM PST by LiveFree99
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To: fabrizio

The dipshit is just like his dad. Does not understand how military spending is determined. Unless you do a complete overhaul (read that surrender) of the National Security Strategy and National Military Strategy, reducing the missions assigned to the armed forces to the extreme, there is very little you can cut.


105 posted on 11/07/2010 4:34:28 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: Carry_Okie

Doesnt surprise me one bit. We can cut parts of the defense without touching weapons, personnel or benefits.


106 posted on 11/07/2010 4:35:31 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: khenrich

If the US feels threatened by Mexico..let Obama sue them. Cuts should be made in the civillian workforce and among the military contractors but NOT to the troops that serve and fight for this country. We have people living on welfare that live a better lifestyle than our young enlisted men and women. People on welfare that are young and healthy and get foodstamps, medical care and more...yet, we begrudge those that place their lives on the line? if the GOP hits the retired military, the young enlisted personnel with cuts then I will NEVER vote republican again. Too many other areas to cut first and as I said that includes the civillian work force who make more money, do less and have the best benefits on earth.


107 posted on 11/07/2010 4:36:49 PM PST by katiedidit1
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To: katiedidit1

worth noting: Dr. Paul specifically said he didn’t think salaries for our military members needed to be cut.

It’s quite funny reading these comments, it is obvious that 99% of the negative commenters didn’t actually watch the interview as they are competely off the mark. They just got used and abused by the AP.

Here is the actual interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN0N6roRGZ8


108 posted on 11/07/2010 4:39:13 PM PST by specsaregood
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To: sasportas

Talk about hiding. You make your post to “all” and dont name name, but have the gall to say other people are hiding. Maybe if you look at what the military budget is, and what % of federal spending defense is, you would see that without some cuts to it, we can not cut the federal budget.

It doent mean we are going to cut necessities. But it does require that people look at the facts and make rational decisions as opposed to hysterical emotional claims and dismissing people because you dont like the truth they are speaking.


109 posted on 11/07/2010 4:39:40 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Raider Sam
IT would be symbolic,

You describe it - that's what I meant. That message needs to be sent. In the 'real world' where the money comes from to feed those perks and salaries, perks and good salaries are not given for poor performance.

We are in this mess because of poor performance from both sides. One side the robber (jobs, rights, etc), the other side lack luster performance (RINO'S), doesn't perform tasks assigned - (Constitution).

In the REAL WORLD, they demand a bang for their buck for their 'empire' - in this gov't world - we are paying an a exorbitant price for 'our empire' to be taking down. It's upside down 1000's times over!

So cutting the salaries/perks for 'business' sense is symbolic because we are paying for it anyway. So be it - cut till it bleeds and then we will get candidates who are in it for the love of country and not love of money/power. We need to starve the beasts in more than one area, IMO.

Sidenote: There should be some kind of funds set aside for those who served in the military should they decide to run for office. That is who should get 'perk' money - not the country club elite who stay in the best hotels, drink/eat at our expense. Again, the system is upside down. The proven fighters, who put their life on the line for our Constitution gets the least, the suit/tie dress weak Constitution crowd get the frills. We need one MIGHTY push to flip it over to common sense.
110 posted on 11/07/2010 4:41:03 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: katiedidit1

EXACTLY!!


111 posted on 11/07/2010 4:41:57 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: presently no screen name

So you favor symbolism over results?

Cutting Federal salaries wont make anything bleed. If we want to bleed the government, we have to hit Medicare/caid, Defense, Debt Interest and Social Security.


112 posted on 11/07/2010 4:45:58 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: katiedidit1
Not even part of my point. I have family in the military and nothing in what I said has anything to do with military personnel or their wages. The military budget is filled with government contracts and no matter which area it involves there is MASSIVE waste. Cutting/Eliminating that waste will make sure we can take care of our soldiers (especially the wounded ones).
113 posted on 11/07/2010 4:47:28 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: Frantzie
Considering we are in two wars now that are fairly pointless because we have an Islamic POTUS and Saudi mole plus open borders.

We are broke and there appears to be no strategy or plan except our troops cannot shoot back, bomb, use artilleryy etc.

You are right. For the first time in my life I believe now is not the time to expand the US military, mostly for the reasons you mention.
114 posted on 11/07/2010 4:51:02 PM PST by samtheman
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To: specsaregood

Paul said they need to look at military “entitlements” which are their pensions. I did not read in the transcript where he cited any other specifics.
AMANPOUR: Are you going to cut entitlements?

PAUL: It has to be everything across the board.

AMANPOUR: Entitlements?

PAUL: And you — you have to look at entitlements.


115 posted on 11/07/2010 4:56:32 PM PST by katiedidit1
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To: specsaregood

Paul said they need to look at military “entitlements” which are their pensions. I did not read in the transcript where he cited any other specifics.
AMANPOUR: Are you going to cut entitlements?

PAUL: It has to be everything across the board.

AMANPOUR: Entitlements?

PAUL: And you — you have to look at entitlements.


116 posted on 11/07/2010 4:56:49 PM PST by katiedidit1
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To: specsaregood

Paul said they need to look at military “entitlements” which are their pensions. I did not read in the transcript where he cited any other specifics.
AMANPOUR: Are you going to cut entitlements?

PAUL: It has to be everything across the board.

AMANPOUR: Entitlements?

PAUL: And you — you have to look at entitlements.


117 posted on 11/07/2010 4:56:53 PM PST by katiedidit1
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To: fabrizio

I agree with Rand Paul. There is plenty of fat in the defense budget, just like every other part of the federal government. The goal should be to spend smart, not just spend a lot. JMO.


118 posted on 11/07/2010 5:00:07 PM PST by USArmySpouse
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To: screaminsunshine

Bingo. Nation Building is endangering our armed forces mission. How much cash is going towards that, to say nothing of the nation’s biggest threat: financial collapse.


119 posted on 11/07/2010 5:01:23 PM PST by dr_who
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To: jiminycricket000

Ah yes, Veteran’s benefits are the largest chunk of defense spending. I think they come right after social security and medicare in terms of the amount of money spent, IIRC.


120 posted on 11/07/2010 5:05:41 PM PST by dr_who
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