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Did it ever occur to anyone that they (meaning the govt.) are doing this to ensure we don't take/smuggle our MONEY out of the country???

Remember you can only take 10K at a time out of the USA without a customs declaration, which I never did get, and still don't, why on earth do we have to declare what we do with our own money?? Maybe they are afraid too many rich citizens are escaping? Who's going to pay the top 2% taxes? Just an idea to get your wallet out in the open?

This is all part of Hussein's totalitarian communist control program. Instead of searching muslims, they get to walk right on past without any scrutiny while law abiding tax paying american patriots are harassed to the point where they aren't allowed on flights anymore.

Big Brother police state is here but I doubt people expected it to come with sharia law and a muslim president.

1 posted on 11/08/2010 5:03:55 AM PST by IbJensen
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2 posted on 11/08/2010 5:07:24 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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pay back is a itch
If your unlucky enough to have to submit to it again....as soon as the touchy feely starts scream “GET YOUR FILTHY HANDS OFF MY PRIVATES YOU PERVERT!”


3 posted on 11/08/2010 5:08:58 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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I call those machines “porn-o-graphs.”

They are a huge waste of time and are very intrusive. But if some chick gets off on looking at my package who am I to deny her?

I deal with them weekly.

What the hell ever happened to “Trusted Traveler” we were promised right after 9/11?


4 posted on 11/08/2010 5:10:40 AM PST by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-Reader: omnipotence at home, impotence abroad (Weekly Standard))
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It’s time for Congress to ban those things or at least force them to be set to show everything but the body.


5 posted on 11/08/2010 5:13:43 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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If 10% of the travelers (or less) decided to “opt out” every single time, the entire system would grind to a halt. It’s called civil disobedience.


6 posted on 11/08/2010 5:14:11 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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I have heard that some rumors were that Islamic terrorist females were going to have bombs in breast implants and that’s part of the reasoning for the free “jollies” for TSA perverts on women who Opt Out of the imager.

As a breast cancer survivor who has had reconstruction I suppose I’ll get a thorough “going over” when I fly next.


7 posted on 11/08/2010 5:15:27 AM PST by whatshotandwhatsnot
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"Instead of searching muslims, they get to walk right on past without any scrutiny while law abiding tax paying american patriots are harassed to the point where they aren't allowed on flights anymore."

I know. My father who was in the navy was once escorting some foreign naval people from the War College on a trip to D.C. All kinds of foreigners, and who gets 'randomly' picked for a special search? Twice? You guessed it.

8 posted on 11/08/2010 5:21:09 AM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat.)
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If the intent of these machines is to detect bombs, it will fail. There are ways to get bombs through even with these things undressing you. If you are trying to stop guns or knives, you have the passengers to do that. I won’t sit in my seat and die like a lamb to the slaughter.

The only real way to stop bombs is to sniff them out.

Are there any real tests to show that PETN or C4 cannot get through these machines?


9 posted on 11/08/2010 5:22:52 AM PST by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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Let’s see. What’s the FReeper response to this? Oh yeah.

If you aren’t doing anything wrong you don’t have to worry about anything. You used to have to pay extra to get a stranger to grab your genitals at the airport. They are doing this for the children! I’m afraid of bad people and whatever the government tells me will keep me safe I believe because I want to FEEEL safer. I’m so afraid of bad people, I don’t care what the government does to me! Trust government to keep you safe!


10 posted on 11/08/2010 5:27:31 AM PST by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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I have to admit this deters me from flying at all. Not just for myself, but for my kids. I wonder if our usual vacation destinatioon (Disney) notices a drop in business?

Call me prudish but I dont want my adolescent daughter and son groped or irradiated and viewed virtual naked. Maybe it’s just me....

Wonder how we would be treated if we flew in burka’s?


11 posted on 11/08/2010 5:29:56 AM PST by silverleaf
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Flew to JFK from Rome last month. A man roamed the airplane from almost the moment we left the ground. Up and down, was chased out of business class a couple of times, chased out of the “kitchen area” a couple of times. As soon as we touched the ground at JFK, same guy was up and roaming around again, stewardesses yelling that if he did not sit down and buckle up he would be met at the gate by police. I’ll give you a clue, he wasn’t American (he had a red passport) and the woman he was travelling with was wearing a hajib.


12 posted on 11/08/2010 5:30:36 AM PST by Calm_Cool_and_Elected ("Stupidity is always astonishing, no matter how many times you may deal with it." - Jean Cocteau)
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The result of opting out of the nekkid scan were well publicized. I guess people didn’t read all about it.

Newark/Liberty does not have the nekkid scanner in every terminal yet. I was appalled to watch a woman getting the full ‘treatment’ right out in the open last week. I was embarrassed for her. She didn’t seem to mind at all.

She was Indian (dot not feathers) and perhaps didn’t quite understand that she had been singled out.


13 posted on 11/08/2010 5:31:15 AM PST by Carley (WE SAW NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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I’ve “Opted out” of flying. I’m not going to put up with this crap. I’m tired of long lines, intrusive searches, excessive baggage charges, lost luggage, stolen luggage, and sitting with my knees jammed into the back of the seat in front of me. If I can’t get there by car, I’m not going.


15 posted on 11/08/2010 5:32:21 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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We used to fly all the time, we split the year between New Mexico and Indiana, plus we have property in Mo.

We drive now, because my wife does not want to go through the scanners, we really enjoyed flying but now she feels violated,so we drive.

18 posted on 11/08/2010 5:37:30 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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“This is all part of Hussein’s totalitarian communist control program.”

This started LOOOOONG before Hussein with Woodrow Wilson when he and the Rats in Congress passed laws to make the use of recreational drugs illegal and to institute the income tax.


20 posted on 11/08/2010 5:40:47 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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Whenever I have flown i set off the metal detectors at the airport. I have metal plates in my skull, facial bones, neck, legs and back. I have shown the pictures of the x=rays to no avail. I have not been on a plane too much recently, I grew tired of the jostling around, getting manhandled from the wheelcahair and so forth. last time I flew from detroit, the airline gave me the song and dance that I needed to have an attendant along with me for the flight. Too much BS. I simply replied i am a former marine and I do not need an attendant. I am independent and do for myself.

Flying is no fun. If i have to travel it is by car or by train. so far it has been quite nice on the train, but that is subject to change.


21 posted on 11/08/2010 5:52:20 AM PST by hondact200 ( Lincoln Freed the Enslaved. Obama Enslaves the Free. Obama is Americas Greatest Threat)
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Everyone needs to OPT OUT of these scanners.

The ‘pat down’ line would be so long they would need to change their security tactics yet again.

Just say ‘Opt Out’


23 posted on 11/08/2010 5:54:59 AM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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FYI, there is a website called FlyerTalk that addresses this and other issues relating to air travel quite heavily. The forum related to the full body scanners is at:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-safety-security-222/

Also, there is another website (a series of them actually) with good information on these monstrosities. Check out http://www.dontscan.me or http://www.dontscan.us for details. Click on the pamphlet tab and print the PDF file on that page (double sided). If you have the time and the toner, print a few before you fly and leave them near the check-in gates or distribute them to the people around you waiting in line.


26 posted on 11/08/2010 6:05:28 AM PST by ssaftler ("Politically Correct" is neither!)
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Time for the USA to opt out of flying. Of course the likely result of that will be another bailout for the airline industry.


28 posted on 11/08/2010 6:10:57 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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I quit flying two days after 9/11. It meant working closer to home and driving the vast stretches of interstate for vacations (12 days round trip across 24 states, 4 twice, for an elk hunt in Washington State in 2007). I never realized what I had been missing by flying over this beautiful country, and I will never pay again to be humiliated by any government agency in the guise of homeland security!


31 posted on 11/08/2010 6:21:02 AM PST by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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